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    • #35813

      TF_amushroom
      Participant

        morning fellow widscreen scrapers, its been seven days, so time to move on.
        I am now far greater versed in whats involved, club constitution etc, etc.

        The proposal is for a free to join club which will be unincorporated, and cater for members who fish, or have an interest in fishing the lower and tidal thames.
        It is proposed that it will be an internet based club, utilising an already established site, to carry out its business.
        Initial costs will be met by members pledges and donations, this is to primarily cover the cost of joining Angling Trust and Fish Legal.
        At the inaugural meeting, the constitution will be agreed upon, and club officials will be chosen, responsibilities delegated and agreement sought for joining Angling Trust and Fish Legal. The aim being to proceed for loss of amenity from Thames Water via Fish Legal with utmost speed. Thus satisfying those that join solely because of loss of amenity, not because they need another club.
        Keith Arthur will be proposed as honourary president.
        All other business will only be discussed if the elected committee deem it practical at this inaugural meeting. However facilities will be available to record what other proposals/concerns members may have, and a schedule agreed to respond to those concerns/proposals.

        Please bear with me with regards to constitution.

        I hope that all this is satisfactory, as I have done my best, any errors I apologise for and will applaud you for pointing them out.

        What we need now are pledges, both of donations and roles that people would like to fill.
        In order for transparency would any person or persons willing to assist please do so on this thread.
        Note that all pledges and assistance are not legally
        binding, until you have decided that the constitution is O.K.

        Thats all for now folks, squeak soon

      • #86526

        TF_MICK THE BOOKIE

          Jim…….I am very interested in getting involved in some capacity.Please keep us all up-to-date in future decisions….MTB.

        • #86532

          TF_amushroom
          Participant

            thankyou sir, the plan is for transparency

            its icy in them millionaires drives

          • #86534

            TF_proper tidal boy

              OK BEEN PROMISHED 3x copies constitutions from different sources bear with me

            • #86537

              TF_proper tidal boy

                geeps or a considerate mod would it be poss to join the two tidal threads together as im sure a mushroom wouldnt mind would you ???? as it keeps all the points in one place for the future as it loooks like it starting to move ???? PLEASE

              • #86539

                TF_simon pavey

                  Anyone remember the last time Mogden was discussed on here? A representative/spokesman(from Mogden) joined in and gave an account of HIS position on the matter. I have searched for it but I cant find it.I also I feel it could be beneficial if a rep from the Angling Trust responded.
                  apart from fblues who has………… ~clap

                • #86540

                  TF_amushroom
                  Participant

                    thats a great idea, proper tidal boy, can any mods assist please,
                    simon, I for one would be very interested in what was said

                    thanks buddies and keep those opinions/pledges coming

                  • #86542

                    TF_amushroom
                    Participant

                      it seems we are to be called Thames Anglers Conservancy,
                      name registration is taking place
                      constitution compiled
                      internet site sorted
                      committee members have yet to come forward
                      but pledges so far have been fantabulous,
                      all we need now is more goddamn posts [cheese and rice [say it quick]], I hope that aint swearing

                      feasonal selicitations

                    • #86567

                      TF_amushroom
                      Participant

                        I know you boys are busy prepping bait and tying rigs, but any chance of some comments/feedback please
                        positive/negative, it makes no odds, they all add a charge to the cause, not that batteries are running low yet

                        squeak soon folks

                      • #86591

                        TF_amushroom
                        Participant

                          well chaps, what a crimbo pressie we have now
                          mick the bookie will be involved at the start of 2010,[unsure yet as how]
                          the first to pledge help on this forum
                          lets hope that signals the all in

                          dont need your money,dont need your time
                          but do need your name,

                          the more members, the more clout, so please pledge to join for free, that all thats needed

                          IT AINT RIGHT TO ALLOW TURDS TO BE PUT IN A RIVER, ANY RIVER

                          Mick, it is people such as yourself that are going to make a difference, many, many thanks
                          it may have started at 33/1 but now its gotta be odds on evens

                          have a good one chaps

                        • #86626

                          TF_amushroom
                          Participant

                            come on folks I’m struggling here, are you waiting for mick before the all in ?

                            No-ones in it to make any money,
                            just for justice

                            if you want to see how its going check out cemex angling, tidal thames club part two

                            if not here’s how it stands,;
                            over 30 people have reconfirmed pledge to join
                            over £250 has been pledged
                            a website is being constructed for free
                            angling times and mail are interested in covering story
                            Keith Arthur will be president

                            all since sunday just gone, thats gotta be fantabulous
                            where are you, please get onboard

                          • #86627

                            TF_Waveney One

                              Hi mate, I hope that you have my name down.

                              Richard Watson

                              Have a good Christmas.

                            • #86628

                              TF_Waveney One

                                My son has said he will join, Chris Watson

                              • #86630

                                TF_amushroom
                                Participant

                                  fella’s the first father and son,
                                  it dont get no better, ’cause thats what its for

                                  your children and childrens children would be proud you helped stop turds being put in a river

                                  glad you have reconfirmed mate and your son makes it that bit special

                                  many, many thanks from all those you are joining
                                  have a splendid xmas, next year is looking pukka

                                • #86649

                                  TF_amushroom
                                  Participant

                                    just compiled/composed the proposed clubs constitution, it runs to 1400 words and is probably full of errors, as I did it all myself,
                                    anyway need to get you to see it and point out the mistakes, dont think I can post 1400 words in one go, anyone have any bright ideas except leave it in the loo

                                    squeak soon folks,

                                  • #86650

                                    TF_proper tidal boy

                                      in possession of two constituitions will buzz for delivery HAPPY READING LOL

                                    • #86659

                                      TF_amushroom
                                      Participant

                                        nice one proper tidal boy

                                        we all appreciate it
                                        squeak soon fella

                                      • #86660

                                        TF_proper tidal boy

                                          buzz me will deliver now

                                        • #86666

                                          TF_jaap stam

                                            you can count on my support.

                                          • #86668

                                            TF_proper tidal boy

                                              ah great support jaap unlike them bubbles

                                            • #86673

                                              Daddy B
                                              Participant

                                                Not wanting to steal amushroom’s thunder, but you can check out the cemex angling forum where the constitution has now been posted under the “general coarse fishing chat” section.

                                              • #86681

                                                TF_amushroom
                                                Participant

                                                  nice one jaap stam thanks buddy its been hard generating interest on here, so a big welcome

                                                • #86682

                                                  TF_amushroom
                                                  Participant

                                                    nice one senor was gonna send pm’s didnt want to upset mods

                                                    SO DRAFT CONSTITUTION POSTED ON CEMEX SITE UNDER THAMES CLUB CONSTITUTION

                                                    Please have a look at my poor attempt, it might make you laugh once the mother in law goes home

                                                    reason its on there is interest is greater and to much to post on all three sites

                                                    have a good’un and thankyou all

                                                    if my responses are short its because I’m chasing my shadow at the mo

                                                  • #86693

                                                    TF_amushroom
                                                    Participant

                                                      constitution is posted on cemex angling under thames anglers conservancy constitution part 1-8

                                                      its to much to post on here as well, interest has been far greater on there, than elsewhere

                                                      any changes you think, post on there or pm me

                                                      john hepworth[chub study group] is setting up website for free and it will be free to run

                                                      so our acorn is well planted and well watered,
                                                      now we just need you to help tend it

                                                      come on folks

                                                    • #86716

                                                      TF_amushroom
                                                      Participant

                                                        MAJOR HICCUP FOLKS, FISH LEGAL CANT REPRESENT PROPOSED CLUB, NO LEASE OR LICENSE FROM THAMES WATER, SO NO REDRESS

                                                        shall we give up, continue anyway and accept it, or summit else [fathers for justice springs to mind], opinions please chaps

                                                      • #86717

                                                        TF_Waveney One

                                                          I would carry on as a pressure group. It will mean a lot more work for someone though as whoever represents the club will need to do it all rather than use the professional services of fish legal.

                                                        • #86718

                                                          tweet

                                                            @amushroom wrote:

                                                            MAJOR HICCUP FOLKS, FISH LEGAL CANT REPRESENT PROPOSED CLUB, NO LEASE OR LICENSE FROM THAMES WATER, SO NO REDRESS

                                                            shall we give up, continue anyway and accept it, or summit else [fathers for justice springs to mind], opinions please chaps

                                                            Of course they can represent you , they are the voice of angling. They may not be able to claim compensation etc but you are a member and they are bound to represent your interests , all of the things your looking to do they can help you with , they can assist in lobbying your local MP , they can advise & support you as a pressure group they should be at the forefront of this issue . This is a great story and the Trust should be able to exploit it to the maximum with all their knowledge and a full governing body’s support.Amushroom you have done a great job but don’t give up just yet with the Sports Governing Body behind you things will start to fall into place I’m sure.

                                                          • #86720

                                                            TF_Croydon_Dave

                                                              Sorry,Mushroom, I should have jumped in earlier re Fish Legal/Angling Trust. The “free section” of the Thames belongs to all and so no club can currently lay claim to it otherwise I am sure the LAA for example would have gobbled it up years ago!

                                                              That said when I made a big noise a few years ago over a major pollution and appeared on TV, there were legal people out there who were willing to take Thames to court pro-bono for loss of amenity etc.

                                                              Unfortunately I made a major loss of data in 2008 and so will have lost the relevant contacts (I have got a back up which MAY have relevant emails but will need to use a clean PC otherwise there is a danger of overwriting my current mail boxes).

                                                              Best wishes for 2010 and I think a pressure group could work – anything to prove anglers can fight their corner has to be welcomed

                                                            • #86721

                                                              tweet

                                                                I am sure the issue here is not loss of amenity but one of pollution , therefore the Trust and Fish Legal should be able to make a big noise about it now one of their affiliated clubs has brought it to their attention . What amushroom needed was the political clout to start a campaign and it would have been very difficult for him to do that off his own bat . Now instead of just the 200 members of the thames club he will have 13,000 members and the backing of Anglings National Body behind him , this is what all the debate on hear has been about and I am sure that on the back of this test case the Trust will go from strength to strength . IMO the trust needs to put all its support and legal knowledge behind this one , then the normal angler / fence sitter will see that the “Voice of Angling” has a true voice.

                                                              • #86722

                                                                TF_amushroom
                                                                Participant

                                                                  waveney one, you have been supporting this idea from the beginning, and its bril.
                                                                  tweet and croydon dave, thanks for your comments

                                                                  I am just an insignificant angler, who for the past fourteen days, has committed every day in fits and farts to the idea, of righting a wrong.
                                                                  support has been fab, and it is that support that has kept me at it, the unifying force throughout has been to see T.W. get its arse kicked,
                                                                  how that is to be done now I do not know
                                                                  I can continue to try and generate support, but legalese is like latin to me,
                                                                  basically if people wish to continue thats great, but the time is approaching when better minds than mine will be needed and without them an ammateur like me will get mullered by T.W.

                                                                  SO CHAPS WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

                                                                • #86723

                                                                  tweet

                                                                    @amushroom wrote:

                                                                    waveney one, you have been supporting this idea from the beginning, and its bril.
                                                                    tweet and croydon dave, thanks for your comments

                                                                    I am just an insignificant angler, who for the past fourteen days, has committed every day in fits and farts to the idea, of righting a wrong.
                                                                    support has been fab, and it is that support that has kept me at it, the unifying force throughout has been to see T.W. get its arse kicked,
                                                                    how that is to be done now I do not know
                                                                    I can continue to try and generate support, but legalese is like latin to me,
                                                                    basically if people wish to continue thats great, but the time is approaching when better minds than mine will be needed and without them an ammateur like me will get mullered by T.W.

                                                                    SO CHAPS WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

                                                                    amushroom has the club joined the AT yet if so they should be picking this one up mate , that is what all your efforts have been about forming a club having a constituation etc etc , you have proven what can be done on a small scale ( and hats of to you mate ) let the team of specialist solicitors at Fish Legal and the lobbyist at the AT do the rest . This will be a test case but be rest assured the sports governing body will be behind you all the way mate. Just out of interest what dialogue has taken place with yourself and the AT so far. Keep up the good work mate.

                                                                  • #86724

                                                                    TF_amushroom
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      ANYONE GOT A BACK GARDEN ON THE THAMES WE CAN LEASE FISHING RIGHTS FROM

                                                                    • #86725

                                                                      TF_steve r

                                                                        amushroom, the Magna Carta gives the right for people to fish the free stretches of the Thames up to the boundary point at Staines therefore no lease is required to my mind.
                                                                        It is a law set in stone therefore it can be defended! Try Fish Legal again and remind them of that fact.

                                                                        PS You can add me to your member list although I’m not likely to fish any of the tidal stretches!

                                                                      • #86727

                                                                        TF_amushroom
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          have had no official communication with A.T./F.L., awaiting response after crimbo I suppose,
                                                                          info has come second hand
                                                                          steve r thanks for offering to join

                                                                          one other thing; wot about the wandle?

                                                                        • #86728

                                                                          tweet
                                                                            amushroom wrote:
                                                                            have had no official communication with A.T./F.L., awaiting response after crimbo I suppose,
                                                                            info has come second hand
                                                                            steve r thanks for offering to join

                                                                            one other thing]

                                                                            Is the club now a member of The AT ?

                                                                          • #86734

                                                                            TF_amushroom
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              the club has yet to be formed, but watch this space campers

                                                                            • #86752

                                                                              TF_amushroom
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                THAMES ANGLERS CONSERVANCY

                                                                                WE HAVE A WEBSITE FOLKS

                                                                                check out http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

                                                                                many thanks john, we all owe you a mahoosive thankyou

                                                                              • #86770

                                                                                TF_amushroom
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  morning folks, now that we have a website, I’m off to meet the membership officer this morning

                                                                                  very happy days indeed

                                                                                • #86834

                                                                                  TF_amushroom
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    PLEASE VOTE, ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT FORUM ACCESS

                                                                                    setting up po box ,need treasurer to step forward so he can collect mail, if not I will take on role, have been offered help from finance whizz, so it shouldnt be to hard

                                                                                    happy days fellas get onboard

                                                                                  • #86855

                                                                                    TF_amushroom
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      as we have an accountant to do books, I will take on treasurers role, the reason being we need P.O.Box asap, treasurer will collect mail,
                                                                                      finances will be posted monthly on club website [transparency], with P.O.Box taking two weeks, we should have club website open mid jan
                                                                                      anyone concur, differ, wish to air concerns, or better still want the job, do so soon

                                                                                      SPREAD THE WORD FELLAS
                                                                                      http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

                                                                                    • #86899

                                                                                      TF_amushroom
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        figured it wouldnt hurt to post some more details;
                                                                                        membership pledges are at fifty,pledges of finance stand at £280, no monies have been asked for, just a pledge to help in the near future,
                                                                                        we have a website http://www.t-a-c.webege.com
                                                                                        although not live yet, it will be the middle of this month,
                                                                                        WHICH MEANS WE WILL BE ACTIVE WITHIN ONE MONTH OF A RADIO CONVERSATION

                                                                                        chaps and chappesses, geezers and geezeresses, ladies and lads, please check out what the fab fifty are trying to do, post criticism, support, ideas or offers of help,
                                                                                        we need them all

                                                                                      • #86966

                                                                                        TF_amushroom
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          I am exceedingly pleased to be able to announce
                                                                                          that Dick Hodges of T.A.P.S., has agreed to join the club and will help in any way possible,
                                                                                          he brings with him the 150 years of T.A.P.S. experience and a massive amount of experience in dealing with government, E.A., etc, etc

                                                                                          happy, happy days indeed folks

                                                                                        • #87005

                                                                                          TF_amushroom
                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                            there is no problem with a free club joining A.T./F.L.
                                                                                            S.A.S., surfers against sewage have offered support,
                                                                                            member 52 has pledged £120, bringing the monies pledged total to £400

                                                                                            trying to find london free fishing act of parliament c1754 in the reign of george 2nd
                                                                                            any help much appreciated fellas

                                                                                          • #87008

                                                                                            TF_amushroom
                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                              HAPPY DAYS INDEED FELLAS

                                                                                              anglers mail has story about our club in tomorrows edition
                                                                                              check it out and the club at http://www.webege.com

                                                                                            • #87036

                                                                                              TF_amushroom
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                hapy days folks Les Webber mbe, has offered to be a patron to our club
                                                                                                mail story is a bit disappointing, any publicity is good publicity I suppose
                                                                                                squeak soon folks and spread the word

                                                                                              • #87063

                                                                                                TF_amushroom
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  still humming the same tune, keeping the same rhythm,banging the same drum

                                                                                                  sent form of to royal mail for POBox, sent a postal order by recorded mail for tomorrow, figured that would be quicker to process meaning the website will be operating on the 18th of this month

                                                                                                  happy days fellas

                                                                                                • #87567

                                                                                                  TF_amushroom
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    its now four weeks since this started, in eight days time a club website will be open, membership is over sixty, money pledges total £410, keith arthur is honorary president, les webber mbe is a patron, both angling weeklies are covering our story in next weeks issues, and plans are afoot to take our issues much further
                                                                                                    get involved fellas, all it will take is a click on the mouse

                                                                                                  • #88362

                                                                                                    TF_amushroom
                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                      we had a story in both weekly mags yesterday,
                                                                                                      more will follow in next weeks editions, membership at the moment is in the mid sixties,
                                                                                                      we have two movers and shakers from the angling world, keith arthur and les webber
                                                                                                      but this morning I am pleased to announce that the two have become three, Mr Terry Hearn[carp capturer extaordinaire], has joined our club as a patron
                                                                                                      the fantabulous three, very happy days indeed

                                                                                                    • #88372

                                                                                                      TF_MICK THE BOOKIE

                                                                                                        Well done Jim….Keep on banging.Will wait for website to get up and running on the 18th,and then try and get more involved.

                                                                                                      • #88474

                                                                                                        TF_amushroom
                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                          nice one mick, its been hard going on here, but as you know, he who dares rodders, glad youre still in mate and cant wait for the 18th, to have a day off from banging this drum,
                                                                                                          many thanks fella, squeak soon

                                                                                                        • #88847

                                                                                                          TF_amushroom
                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                            two very happy bits of news this morning, firstly we have received our POBox, which means we are definitely open for membership on this monday coming, the 18th
                                                                                                            secondly we have received an email from the main man at thames water, offering to meet us and have a tour of mogden sewage treatment works

                                                                                                            we’re cooking on a double burner folks,
                                                                                                            spread the word, ’cause its free, like joining

                                                                                                          • #89053

                                                                                                            TF_amushroom
                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                              THAMES ANGLERS CONSERVANCY WILL BE OPEN FOR MEMBERSHIP MONDAY EVENING

                                                                                                              http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

                                                                                                              many thanks to those that assisted, we wouldnt be here without you

                                                                                                            • #89161

                                                                                                              TF_dingdong

                                                                                                                Well done Jim on your hard work getting this
                                                                                                                going.and getting such people like Keith and
                                                                                                                Les and others on board~clap ~clap .
                                                                                                                You can put me on your member list .

                                                                                                              • #89212

                                                                                                                TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                  nice one ding dong, glad youre onboard
                                                                                                                  we have a conservation officer as well now, he’s a scientist and should stop thames water from fobbing us of with a load of scientific flim flam

                                                                                                                  happy days fellas, spread the word and join up

                                                                                                                • #89251

                                                                                                                  TF_jaap stam

                                                                                                                    Nice work Jim, will join up online monday.

                                                                                                                  • #89418

                                                                                                                    TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                      the Thames Anglers Conservancy
                                                                                                                      http://www.t-a-c.webege.com
                                                                                                                      is open for registration
                                                                                                                      many thanks to everyone for all their support
                                                                                                                      in 5 weeks we have gone from an idea to an organisation, you can register to join, but the other sections are still under construction, this will change in the next few days

                                                                                                                      2010 the year of T-A-C

                                                                                                                    • #89468

                                                                                                                      TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                        come on chaps, why aint you responding, you aint gotta join, you aint gotta praise, you aint gotta criticise, but you could give us your opinions, there free as well
                                                                                                                        surely if a dimwit like me can do it,this could be done on a river near you, I’m sure our members would offer there assistance
                                                                                                                        get on the drums dudes and bang our rhythym

                                                                                                                      • #89670

                                                                                                                        TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                          you wont be surprised to know that we’re experiencing an occasional problem with registration, if you do not receive confirmation, then please re-apply, us doughnuts are beavering away to solve the problem
                                                                                                                          2010 the year of T-A-C

                                                                                                                        • #89740

                                                                                                                          TF_simon pavey

                                                                                                                            Check out anglers mail this week. Inside line… page 14~clap

                                                                                                                          • #89744

                                                                                                                            TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                              yes mate, hope you are happy with it, tried to bang our drum, sing our tune

                                                                                                                            • #89860

                                                                                                                              TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                morning folks, have been invited by thames water to attend a meeting between themselves and rowers on 28th at 8pm in putney, anyone want to put their hands up
                                                                                                                                have also got to arrange the mogden visit, it will be a weekday during working hours, anyone have any preferences
                                                                                                                                when you register online you should receive confirmation within twelve hrs, if you dont let us know

                                                                                                                                many many thanks chaps

                                                                                                                              • #90243

                                                                                                                                TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                  OUR FORUM IS OPEN CHAPS, GET ON IT
                                                                                                                                  we are being asked to become a stakeholder, and am in discuusions about becoming a consultative
                                                                                                                                  I need a bigger brain folks

                                                                                                                                • #90333

                                                                                                                                  TF_amushroom
                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                    thames anglers conservancy is now fully open,
                                                                                                                                    if you have an interest in fishing the thames, or any rivers that flow into it, or fish a lake close by, what happens on ‘old father’ can affect you to, lets make 2010 the year of TAC

                                                                                                                                    THIS THREAD IS NOW FINISHED

                                                                                                                                    MANY THANKS TO YOU ALL, TOTAL FISHING, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS HELPED

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