I have been informed we (Grebe AC) have drawn at home against JV Thorney although I haven’t seen the paper myself.

If it’s true, it’s going to be difficult for us as they have good some really good anglers amongst their ranks.

J

we have home draw against Test Valley and Ringwood

who do you fish for terrydorset and what is your home venue as I may be fishing for TVAC?

orchard lakes ac and thats our home venue as well

We got Wades MG and Thornry B!!maybe on a little side drain me thinks?

could anyone help me out i’ve tryed to get the angling times but i don’t think they have delivered to cornwall today i fish for kernow MG and was wondering if anyone can post on here who we have in the first round and if we are at home or not
cheers
peter t

Polo 2611 ,you are away 2 Stafford moor AC,and Exeter DAA

cheers jay

Anyone else while i got the paper out?? online most of the night!

@Jay P wrote:

Anyone else while i got the paper out?? online most of the night!

Trident AC please mate east midlands area

Only a Trident fc away 2 Barnstone Ac and Carlton Ac .No Trident Ac??

Barnstone Vs Carlton ac Vs Trident fc

Cheers Steve

Let’s hope Wade’s don’t take you to Ferry Meadows like they did two years ago Jay P.

Not exactly in the spirit of a proper contest was it…

Thanks Jay & Steve

No way!!! 4 practice matches caught every time,then blanked on the day from the monument area!!

Drawn against WHITE HEART AC ans OMBERSLEY anyone know any of these clubs .Midlands region

Tell me about it Jay P. I blanked too, on the high bank opposite. Wade’s won, if I recall, because my mate Lee Kendall caught one perch which hung itself while he was packing the rest of gear away.

We’ve got Grebe AC away. It’s my old club so should be interesting as some of my mates still fish for them. Looking forward to the banter already!

Kev, Get through and see you at Decoy?Your family home,lol

any1 know where tewkesbury ac have drawn.?

MORGANS AC home draw also fishing against SNEYD MG ian.

TewkesburyAc away 2 Morgans angling and Sneyd MG

???

Tewkesbury have drawn those teams mate.

@steveevans99 wrote:

Tewkesbury have drawn those teams mate.

so morgans have the home draw then???

Steve evans, i think you’ll find white hart are based around the cov birmingham area. Pretty sure a few of them fish meadowlands. Decent side who were second in the final 2 years ago.

Cheers steve i remember we fished against them 2 years ago at packington they beat us by 1 point one of there guys had a tench on whistle it was a really good match very close. Yea ian morgans have home draw

Could someone please tell us who South Reading Lions have drawn and whether we are the home side

red hydro you have home draw against INTERTYPE AS and KENNET OSPREYS

Anyone tell me who TRAC have drawn in the North West, and who has the home draw.

Thanks

Paul

Atherton new star (home) Vs Trafford angling Vs TRAC mg.

Trafford angling are last years winners.

Thanks Steve, we normally end up against Trafford Angling.But we have turned Kerrys team over in the past !!

Anyone know the venues for the midland semi ?

I fish for Newmarket and we have a nice home draw.

Cheers

Hi all

Anyone know where st anthonys b team home venue is?

cheers

si

Cheers Hempseed

ok feltham piscato rals b v ?????postmaNS LATE WITH AT

Feltham pisc A v Tumbling bay As

Where’s the southern semi

Bourney,have you ever fished the Ribble~shh

@Bazza wrote:

Where’s the southern semi

I am pretty sure it’s Gold Valley

we have drawn Queenshead Ac

we’ve drawn matchfishing_scene.co.uk and bay malton. Not sure where matchfishing scene will take us venue wise?

I am the captain of the MFS NE Team and we have drawn Calder Anglers and Reel Em in AC away.

Karponi I might know where you are going to fish but I will leave that as a suprise ~shh

karponi hope you like the weaver

Southern Semi is at Colemans Cottage – can’t remember the date off the top of my head, but if Moorlands is the 5th, I think it may be the week after….but don’t quote me!!

Wendy, what date is the northern semi and is the final around the usual date?

emmm thought you mite say that.

Colemans Cottage!!!!! So much for Richard Grange saying at last years semi that they were looking into bringing the southern semi closer to the South West. This venue is further than all the others have ever been a round trip of 500+ miles!

Anybody know Exeter team jinx home venue, and were is Colemans cottage?

@Jon W wrote:

I have been informed we (Grebe AC) have drawn at home against JV Thorney although I haven’t seen the paper myself.

If it’s true, it’s going to be difficult for us as they have good some really good anglers amongst their ranks.

J

Where you taking us (jvac) then jon???

Colemans Cottage is in Witham Essex.

Not too far from Torquay then, easier to get to france for us boys!!

@rossi wrote:

Anybody know Exeter team jinx home venue, and were is Colemans cottage?

rossi, I expect you’ll be taken to KiaOra

http://www.exeteranglingassociation.co.uk/kia_ora.htm

it gets very peggy when there’s a few anglers on it

thanks tewton

FEEDERACE i hear from steve goodrum (grebe) you ARE going to ferry meadows!!!
looks like us (wades) are taking jv & holbech on decoy we seem to get labeled a drains team yet have won most of our super cup matches on commercials~clap ~clap ~clap

Whats that disco ,decoy,i heard on a drain in whittlesey ,but i no nothing,it seems?Decoy will be nice !!We hate the place lol!Look forward 2 meeting you.

@disco pinkie wrote:

FEEDERACE i hear from steve goodrum (grebe) you ARE going to ferry meadows!!!
looks like us (wades) are taking jv & holbech on decoy we seem to get labeled a drains team yet have won most of our super cup matches on commercials~clap ~clap ~clap

I THOUGHT YOU WERE MORE LIKE PIKE ANGLERS MATE!!!~clap ~clap ~clap

matlock ac hempseed watch for them

@Bazza wrote:

Colemans Cottage!!!!! So much for Richard Grange saying at last years semi that they were looking into bringing the southern semi closer to the South West. This venue is further than all the others have ever been a round trip of 500+ miles!

what a piss-take place to put the southern semi

where can you find the draw coz i didnt get the angling times. im with fishermans ways.

Trafford angling will win this year again. Best by a MILE 😉

@I want Ewans title wrote:

Thanks Steve, we normally end up against Trafford Angling.But we have turned Kerrys team over in the past !!

when i dont remember this which venue was this on

who has trafford angling got and what venue anyone know. and wendy is the cheque gonna be there for the presentation this yr for the winning team or 6 weeks later

no decent anglers we are all crap really why you ask

no real stars all good anglers on most venues

@wayne2009 wrote:

no decent anglers we are all crap really why you ask

Lol ~clap ~clap ~clap

Im saying nowt Wayne ~shh ~shh

you like my style dodge

@wayne2009 wrote:

@I want Ewans title wrote:

Thanks Steve, we normally end up against Trafford Angling.But we have turned Kerrys team over in the past !!

when i dont remember this which venue was this on

I remember this match many years ago ~clap ~clap

It was at Church Gardens Bolton i think ? We all caught on the waggler shallow in january lol. I want Ewans title won the match with a proper weight (nearly 50lb ?) and i think i was second ? Edgeley Sports beat Trafford Angling by a point on the day ~think

oh right that was the old team things have changed since then we got rid of the dead wood on our team and replaced with a younger generation haha

~clap

Whats the rules with this comp,i have heard through the grapevine about anglers fishing for sponsored teams,jacking in with said team,fishing the supercup and rejoining original sponsered team.

Is this the norm or just heresay ? There seems to be a lot of anglers that have a downer on this comp when you talk to them.

Marcus, its a great event to fish, your right their has been problems in the past with sponcered anglers fishing the comp. In the past teams have been disqualified at the semi final for having sponcered anglers in the team. to be honest its just cheating the system~naughty ~naughty?? why do it its just another form of cheating~think

Rodger, ( Dodge )

Does that “Sensas” bit under your posts mean your not elligible !!!!!

I might have to look closely at your team list LOL !!!

Paul ~think ~think ~think ~think

LOL Paul ~clap ~clap

I aint fished a supercup match since said match donkeys years ago when Edgeley Sports turned Trafford Angling over at Church Gardens.

Swainy has come a long way since that match mate ~think ~think pmsl

LOL Paul ~clap ~clap

I aint fished a supercup match since said match donkeys years ago when Edgeley Sports turned Trafford Angling over at Church Gardens.

Swainy has come a long way since that match mate ~think ~think pmsl

Hempseed we (worksop) have drawn against chris club what they like a tidy outfit,never come across them before,do you reckon they will be hard to beat? cheers mate

Tumbling bay seemed a decent team to me, also think they carried a blank and were close to the winners in the final.

@Daiwa pro wrote:

Marcus, its a great event to fish, your right their has been problems in the past with sponcered anglers fishing the comp. In the past teams have been disqualified at the semi final for having sponcered anglers in the team. to be honest its just cheating the system~naughty ~naughty?? why do it its just another form of cheating~think

G, How do you get on it as your sponsored by Guildford Angling ?

@mp.milo wrote:

@Daiwa pro wrote:

Marcus, its a great event to fish, your right their has been problems in the past with sponcered anglers fishing the comp. In the past teams have been disqualified at the semi final for having sponcered anglers in the team. to be honest its just cheating the system~naughty ~naughty?? why do it its just another form of cheating~think

G, How do you get on it as your sponsored by Guildford Angling ?

well mate being sponcered by a shop is different than being sponcered by a main manufacturer, thats why we have never taken main sponcership because of this event

Here’s a question: Do you think it is morally wrong (or okay) to fish in the Supercup if you also fish for a team in the Angling Times Winter league and are potentially fishing for a team in the AT Winter league semis?

Spill the beans North Ender lol ~shh ~hand ~think

@North Ender wrote:

Here’s a question: Do you think it is morally wrong (or okay) to fish in the Supercup if you also fish for a team in the Angling Times Winter league and are potentially fishing for a team in the AT Winter league semis?

Do you fall foul of the sponsorship rules in the AT?

I’d check with AT first. We had the same problem a few years ago but our lads were allowed to fish. Ring Richard Grange.

The reason I asked the question is that if, hypothetically, somebody were to fish in the Supercup competition for a club in the next couple of months and fish in the same period of time, in a competition such as the AT Winter League semis, would this not essentially make a mockery of the ‘clubman’ status of the Supercup competition?

If it is okay to do this, can’t any angler then fish in the Supercup, if the mood takes them.

And does this not devalue the Supercup competition and turn it into a joke?

Anglers generally fishing in AT winter leagues and in teams in AT Winter league semis etc, whether sponsored or not, would normally be classed as ‘open’ anglers or be rated as being of a standard above average ‘club’ anglers.

I know it will ruffle feathers, but it’s a question worth asking, as I feel that the rules governing the Supercup competition might be viewed in some quarters as being wide open to abuse.

Fair comment myself and lads i fish with none of us are or have been sponserd but i see your point to be honest it doesnt really bother us who fishes it we just enjoy the matches we have been to semis a couple of times but never the final.But we have never practised properly either we were in southern league but being from gloucester the semis were always miles away so we just tried on the day and failed lol we are now in the midlands so are semi would be moorlands a lot closer so if we are lucky enouth to get through we will practice and make a go of it.

babcocks ac mate weve been to colmans cottage year before last we were going to whiteacres same weekend lol so from glos to essex then to whiteacres lol also qualified when it was at willow park both venues a little far for us to practice.

A couple of years ago we, ST Anthonys AC entered the Lancashire A/T winter league (as a club team)we decide to do this because the league would of folded due to not enough teams entering that year,as a team we got well beaten every round,all the lads really enjoyed it though and found it improved their match angling no-end fishing against the cream of the north (Drennan north west,Saints,etc)

As a club we enjoyed every minute of the challenge facing us every round,we also had a good laugh along the way and met some good blokes who are now friends ~clap

Its not all about the winning when club fishing wether sponsored or not and if you stick to rules when entering a competition (supercup or otherwise) and enjoy the day for what it is then in my opinion you have done nothing wrong~clap

Well said Pete.

If I had known the real identity of northender I wouldnt have got involved in the thread as it is obvious to me now that he is just stirring as usual.

This subject has been done to death ever since Darwin won the 2nd supercup with Barry Thomas in the team (Barry was captain of div 1 champs Southport). The AT have made previous decisions on the matter so thats that.

i thought the rule was as long as you are not sponsored by a major tackle company you were eligable to fish, an if you are sponsored by your local shop that doesnt count as a major sponsor

Still hardly fair when you have working guys having to buy their own bait v others who get their bait free.We had this last year and just for chopped worm and caster the bait bill was £18 per man v nil cost as an example~naughty

I think the rule is:
You are not eligible if you are sponsored by any tackle or bait company. This does not include local tackle shops but does include companies like Sensas, VDE, Mosella etc.

thats what i thought it was. £18 per man on worms an casters i hope you won i dont think ive ever spent that on worms an casters an if i have i have brought them home at the end you. where did u fish with all this bait

I dropped out when i heard the bait bill at a team meeting fella i cant justify spending silly money on bait etc to fish to a team plan i worked out the cost of the one match all in would be about £50.I was very naive in my thinking beforehand i suppose? i just thought we would turn up and fish and give it our best shot on our home water fishing how we wanted to individually it was a real eye opener.The lads that fished never really enjoyed their day either(loads of backbiting and petty squabbles leading upto the day) i think they felt under real pressure and that went against them.I was even more gobsmacked when i heard we had entered again this year?I will offer to bankrun and try and help that way and give the lads a gee up instead.

sounds like they all take it too serious.
we won it this yr and the most bait i used on any match was 4 pints of maggots in the semi final on the oaks i was told to fish for barbel but ended up catching big carp on it which was nice an won me the section. i dont think ive ever used a kilo of worms an howevever many casters anywhere most places are pellets now adays. we used to travel for some matches an it started to cost upto £80 a match with bait an deisel started to become a joke so i know what you mean

As a matter of interest … if you were the “home” team in this competition, in the first round, how far would you expect to reasonably travel …. likewise if you were one of the away teams, considering the cost of fuel, for what is a “clubman” competition, what is reasonable ?

200 miles round trip for the “home” team …. 500 for one of the away teams ??? Is this reasonable or in the spirit of the competition ?

6 or 7 gallons of petrol for the “home” team and 15 or more gallons for the away team~think ~think at a fiver a gallon ~naughty

What do those taking part in this competition who are complaining about having to spend £20 on worm and castor think about this ??

The whole idea of a home draw means you pick a venue close to you that you may fish reguler dont see the point of a home draw then travelling miles lol you would just loose the advantage. I personaly havent met a team that takes us miles away from where there based.

@Doc wrote:

As a matter of interest … if you were the “home” team in this competition, in the first round, how far would you expect to reasonably travel …. likewise if you were one of the away teams, considering the cost of fuel, for what is a “clubman” competition, what is reasonable ?

200 miles round trip for the “home” team …. 500 for one of the away teams ??? Is this reasonable or in the spirit of the competition ?

6 or 7 gallons of petrol for the “home” team and 15 or more gallons for the away team~think ~think at a fiver a gallon ~naughty

What do those taking part in this competition who are complaining about having to spend £20 on worm and castor think about this ??

I think 500 miles is a lot to be honest, but then again being based 100 miles away from your opponents doesn’t help either – not your teams fault obviously, as you know there is normally at least one other scottish team… To be fair to the home team they have chosen their home venue which just happens to be 80 miles away. I’ve sent you a PM.

I dont know the personal arrangements of the person in question but knowing the shop I would expect he would get no more than a 20% discount for non-shop-team related matches. For team matches where he is representing the shop I would expect a slightly better discount but not much.

I cant see how that can be a problem as I get about 15% off as a matter of course as I’ve used the same shop for 30 years. I’m sure most people get a few quid knocked off here and there which is much the same thing.

One of the Fellas from the winning side who had previously won the competion said to our bank runner his bait was free?Now he may have been joking or whatever but if i had of spent the £50 that would have been a right kick in the wotsits.The Club matches i fish are £10 all in and whatever bait i want to take and with petrol and breakfast i doubt it ever comes to over £25 so it would have been hard to justify spending double when ive got a young family.Like i say i thought of it has been a fun competition but when it isnt a level playing field as regards cost etc NO THANKS i dont wish to compete.

It’s quite simply really. If you dont like it, stop whinging and don’t fish it.

If some people wish to take it more serious than others then so be it. If some people get some free bait, well good on them!

I think you have to decide whether its worth fishing to you personally and not worry about what everyone else does or gets.

I think the competition has evolved, not necessarily for the better, over the years and the general decline of open level match fishing is one of the factors, with more guys who were part of the open scene now fishing club-type matches.
Angling is expensive whichever way you look at it, but if the Supercup is supposed to be a competition for clubmen, then maybe AT need to revisit the rules/regulations and possibly think about another club competition for anglers who fish both club and open matches.
It is very difficult to achieve a level playing field, but a set of rules that are not open to personal interpretation might help.

@North Ender wrote:

I think the competition has evolved, not necessarily for the better, over the years and the general decline of open level match fishing is one of the factors, with more guys who were part of the open scene now fishing club-type matches.
Angling is expensive whichever way you look at it, but if the Supercup is supposed to be a competition for clubmen, then maybe AT need to revisit the rules/regulations and possibly think about another club competition for anglers who fish both club and open matches.
It is very difficult to achieve a level playing field, but a set of rules that are not open to personal interpretation might help.

so what your trying to say is fish this 1 off clubman match or fish open matches. but what if your in a club and fish club matches and when they finish you fish opens which alot of people do this is surely not fair.
at the end of the day people who are sponsored by local shops dont really get anything anyway a bit of discount on tackle an probably a couple of pints of bait per week hardly alot, and if they say they get all this bait free there lying what small or large shop can give kilos of worms away and casters or even pellets get real people an stop moaning if you dont like to compete against these people dont fish