Or Wade & Lewis……..

But he won with some very good darts so well done that man!

Wasn’t this the championship that Whitlock couldn’t even win the final of???~think ~think

i also think that when they play the better players it makes them up their game also!!! look at whitlock, didnt do tht well in bdo yet gets to final in pdc, proves tht the bdo boys can up their game. i think it was a cracking final and much more exciting than the usual taylor drubbings!!!

LOL you have to worry about people on here and the wind up merchants. How many times have BDO players faced Taylor and he has wiped the floor with them.

ye taylor is the exception tho aint he

Agreed Joe!

Cracking final which I really enjoyed!~clap ~clap

He’s also wiped the floor with all the PDC players NWCA so I don’t see your point?

I think Whitlock is massively improved. He is as good as said he had spent 12 months practicing solidly. If you listen to Taylor he often remarks that players dont put the time in and he was very complimentary towards Whitlock and the way he is going about his game. As has been said Taylor would wipe the floor with anyone but there is no doubt that the PDC is far stronger than the BDO.

ye without doubt, but i dont think the bdo’s best players are as far behind as pple think

Terry Jenkins was having a go at taylor in our local rag this week for practicing 10 hours a day which I found funny considering what he’s achieved.At the end of the day you get out what you put in.

The standard in the early rounds of the BDO is poor which actually makes for bloody good viewing.

Martin Adams is sat in the lakeside bar with 103K in his pocket and the title of World champion after keeping me well entertained for a couple of hours….so I say well done not ‘youre not as good as the bigger boys’!!

IMO this was an awful World Championship for the BDO. Many of the players were nervous wrecks and needed beta blockers. Chisnall was incredibly nervous and at times struggling to even throw. The sooner the BDO is no more the better. A unfied PDC with everybody competing together. The BDO is a sham world title. It is like holding the WBO World Title at boxing.

i enjoyed the final,~clap thought chizzy was not up to the standard he had put in ,in earlier rounds, but nerves probably played a part.

But well done Martin Adams yeh NWCA?

His last 4 sets against oshea yesterday were stunning.

@daveroberts wrote:

But well done Martin Adams yeh NWCA?

His last 4 sets against oshea yesterday were stunning.

Well done for what? He threw a very good 170 checkout but since virtually Rd1 (one of the lowest points in darts) he has faced incredibly poor opponents and never been pressurised. Even without pressure, Adams darts were not consistent.

Sorry but anybody who plays in the BDO is kidding themselves if they think they can truly call themselves a world champion.

Let’s put it this way. If i kept winning 10 peggers on a small commercial would anybody here be saying how good I was or that I was not that far behind Steve Ringer.

Just to add Trina Gulliver is no better. A fake WT.

I can’t believe you guys are knocking Martin Adams. All the man can do is beat what is put in front of him and he has done exactly that. To take out a 170 as well just shows that the man is on top of his form. Phil Taylor is a phenomenon and nobody will beat him on current form but let’s take our hats off to Mr Adams, a very fine darts player.

@JLA14978 wrote:

I can’t believe you guys are knocking Martin Adams. All the man can do is beat what is put in front of him and he has done exactly that. To take out a 170 as well just shows that the man is on top of his form. Phil Taylor is a phenomenon and nobody will beat him on current form but let’s take our hats off to Mr Adams, a very fine darts player.

Just being honest. If I kept winning 10 and 20 peggers and came here declaring myself the best in the world you would think I was stark raving mad yet you want us to pay homage to Adams for winning a fake WT.

If you won a 20 pegger I’m sure people would congratulate you on a good performance. True it wouldn’t make you a world beater but credit where credit is due.

Is Matt Hall kidding himself about being 2 times fisho champ because Will Raison, steve ringer and des Shipp weren’t in the final?

NWCA your right in saying the title maybe isnt as prestigous as the PDC version, but knocking Adams as a player out of order. Against Phillips and for most of tonight his conistently good finishing when it mattered (on set points) proved himself as a player to anybody watching tonight!

As for Chsinall being nervous! The lad was UNSEEDED coming into the tournamnet went 4-1 against Hankey and played probably the best darts of the tournament! If they werent then his 12 out of 13 lesg to finish of O’shea definatly was! He made the world final worth 100 thousand pounds dont you think he was entitled to be a little bit nervous! The lad can seriously play darts and ehs proved that this week. If you cant see that then you clearly know jack about darts!

Also agreed BDO in the early stages is not the greatest standard but you gotta understand that these lads dont play as many televised events as the PDC lads so they are gonna be nervous and make mistakes! If you can be bothered then go check out some of the lads county averages and most of them are mid to high 90’s. one bad game doesnt make you a bad player.

The difference is Dave that Matt is not pretending he is a world champion. Martin Adams is and his title is worth about the same as a WBO title in boxing.

Worse Martin Adams has 3 times shunned invites to compete in a joint tournament and his comments re the PDC are at best disparaging at worst pathetic. He hates the PDC with such a passion if you ask him who is the best darts player ever he will say Eric Bristow and not Phil Taylor. Crazy.

To quote Adams;

@TomW wrote:

NWCA your right in saying the title maybe isnt as prestigous as the PDC version, but knocking Adams as a player out of order. Against Phillips and for most of tonight his conistently good finishing when it mattered (on set points) proved himself as a player to anybody watching tonight!

As for Chsinall being nervous! The lad was UNSEEDED coming into the tournamnet went 4-1 against Hankey and played probably the best darts of the tournament! If they werent then his 12 out of 13 lesg to finish of O’shea definatly was! He made the world final worth 100 thousand pounds dont you think he was entitled to be a little bit nervous! The lad can seriously play darts and ehs proved that this week. If you cant see that then you clearly know jack about darts!

It does not make you a credible WT challenger either though does it. The PDC final / the whole tournament is simply a higher standard. You cannot call yourself a world champion is you do not beat the best and Adams cannot even summon up the courage to do so and repeatedly turned down invites.

Also agreed BDO in the early stages is not the greatest standard but you gotta understand that these lads dont play as many televised events as the PDC lads so they are gonna be nervous and make mistakes! If you can be bothered then go check out some of the lads county averages and most of them are mid to high 90’s. one bad game doesnt make you a bad player.

I found this and i think it sums it up;

The PDC is more entertaining and boasts considerably higher quality darts than the BDO. The PDC has lifted darts to a level previously unheard of. Under the BDO’s control darts was dying a slow death of under exposure. Now it is enjoying a complete resurgence. It has returned to the back and the front pages; its viewing figures are sensational and arenas up and down the country are sold out for the Premier League. The BDo, on the other hand, offers up a once a year amateurish whimper of an event, with indifferent prize money, which has trouble even finding a sponsor for its televised showpiece.

The quality of darts is greater in the PDC. Baxter and Mason were BDO finalists but have made no World finals in the PDC and haven’t even looked close to acheiving this. Beaton and Burnett won BDO titles but haven’t cut the mustard in the PDC. OK, Barney and Part have both won titles since crossing the floor but they have had to improve averagewise to do it.

What you qouted from Adams about being purely sport not entertainment is SOOOO TRUE!

The BDO does somthing that the PDC doesnt cater for which is all the County players which is under 18’s, under 21’s, under 21 Girls, women’s county team, Mens A and B county teams. Without the BDO a serious competitive match isnt available to all groups! Its a stepping stone!

Martin im sure has played county games and come up through youth county and progressed right through to the pinacle of his organisation and won the BDO WT and I bet hes proud of it too!

EVERYONE knows PDC is better than BDO your no rocket scientist working that out, but Moaning about it you clearly dont get what the BDO is about! Its a stepping stone!

So why pretend it is the World Championship?

To quote Sid Waddell

It seems to me that the BDO is so dyed in the wool that is has gone the same way as the Amateur Athletic Association.

That was a bunch of blokes in blazers who could not resist the ‘player power’ of Cram, Ovett and Coe. The same thing has happened to the BDO, an organisation which is stuck in its ways.

The failure to move with the times has left the BDO as a feeder system for the PDC.

Even allowing for it’s feeder role those with ambition are leaving the BDO earlier. Two very good young players in their twenties – Stuart Bousfield from Merseyside and Chris Laudon of Scotland – have joined up with the PDC. You throw in all the players that have moved across in recent years and what are you left with players like Adams feeding off ill equipped part time county darts players. Nobody should praise a man doing that.

What would you all think of Steve Ringer if he avoided fishing against the best anglers out there and instead fished and won the club championship of the noddy angling club and took their money off them in doing so?

Martin Adams is gutless for not wanting to play the very best darts players in the world and a fraud in claiming he is a world champion.

Ridiculous.

I say thank the lord for the BDO World Championship..It certainly kept me entertained whilst the ice & snow disrupted normal play.

@WOODY999 wrote:

I say thank the lord for the BDO World Championship..It certainly kept me entertained whilst the ice & snow disrupted normal play.

What happened to Harry Potter Gaz. Hasn’t J K Rowling written any more~clap ~clap ~clap

Spot on Woody! If you love darts, do you really care where the players come from. Seen some awful matches in both the PDC and BDO, but equally, have seen some great ones in each as well. In my book, two factions gives twice the viewing opportunities to watch darts!

Martin Adams is the BDO world champion and Phil Taylor is the PDC world champion

In fact to say that the PDC is a much stronger competition I think is nonsense as most of the top darters in the pdc all came from the BDO quite recently, Take away Taylor who without doubt is the greatest ever dart player to walk this planet and webster, barny and the wizard from oz are all recent additions from the bdo

I don’t think Adams as england captain would ever consider a move to the PDC as when the PDC was formed it broke away from the sports true governing body, however the match yesterday was far more sporting and enjoyable than the normal taylor whitewash imo

even the crowd showed a bit of respectto the players by quietening down between throws unlike the free for all at the PDC events

unruly louts lol

“Our original offer has not been considered properly,” Hearn told BBC Radio 5 live.

“I understand that the county organisations that own the BDO have instructed the BDO to commence negotiations.

“I want to buy it all so I control all of it. I want to sling everybody else out and make sure it’s all done properly instead of just owning the PDC.

“I can’t afford to have my market place polluted by a poor case of commercial exploitation.

“You’ve got to make sure that the market is controlled so that you deliver a standard product, and their product is not good enough.”

Funny how Barry Hearn agrees with me and increasingly it seems so do the Counties of the BDO. The big problem is always individuals like Olly Croft who cling to their position out of self interest rather than that of the sport.

Unified darts, no more fake WTs. NWCA and Hearn victorious over the short sighted masses.

one could argue the sports governing body was set up in the interest of british darts,

the PDC was set up more as a bussiness venture

both work quite well~shh

@Fred Davis wrote:

Martin Adams is the BDO world champion and Phil Taylor is the PDC world champion

In fact to say that the PDC is a much stronger competition I think is nonsense as most of the top darters in the pdc all came from the BDO quite recently, Take away Taylor who without doubt is the greatest ever dart player to walk this planet and webster, barny and the wizard from oz are all recent additions from the bdo

I don’t think Adams as england captain would ever consider a move to the PDC as when the PDC was formed it broke away from the sports true governing body, however the match yesterday was far more sporting and enjoyable than the normal taylor whitewash imo

even the crowd showed a bit of respectto the players by quietening down between throws unlike the free for all at the PDC events

unruly louts lol

Fred poor post by you. Of course the plasyers come from the BDO. It is a feeder competition for the PDC. Nothing more, nothing less. Adams hangs around because he is afraid of the competition. How you can say Taylor Whitewash. Anybody who thinks the Taylor v Whitlock final was not superb needs their head testing. Whatsmore it was the highest quality darts. Whitlock would have wiped the floor with Adams if you compared their efforts in the final. The BDO is now a joke and that is why the counties are starting to wake up and consider a merger. Adams beat a nervous wreck in the final and before that players who could not even keep hold of their darts let alone throw them.

What makes me smile is how many supporting Adams will be the very same posters criticising angler who win 10, 20 peggers on the same water week in week out.

@Fred Davis wrote:

one could argue the sports governing body was set up in the interest of british darts,

the PDC was set up more as a bussiness venture

both work quite well~shh

The BDO like all organisations stopped showing due care and attention so the leading players walked. Same in snooker. It happens in so many sports and the biggest culprits are the Olly Crofts of this world.

The BDO was finished once the PDC was created. Years have been wasted by not creating a single unified body.

Calm down!

Darts is more popular now than ever. Is that because of, or in spite of having two governing bodies and two World Championships? Surely it is good for the sport (in terms of broadening its appeal) to still have a major event on terrestrial television? Even if the standard is lower, it is still impressive compared to those of us who chuck a few arrows down the pub once in a blue moon; therefore, it can still make for a good spectacle.

I’m playing devil’s advocate to an extent, here, because I did not watch any of the BDO tournament, but tuned in for quite a lot of the PDC one!

Jesus wept!!!! Have you got sod all to do but write rubbish all day quoting this that and the other!!! Who gives a flying ____ about who wins this n that? If you spent as much time practicing as you do talking you would be World champion in anything you chose!!!
Upto 215pm you have replied 14 times!!!!
JK Rowling could have wrote another Harry Potter novel for my mate Woody in that time you have spent on here!!!
14 times and i bet after iv posted this it will be 15 lol GET A LIFE MAN???
I thought this was a fishing forum????
Oh Happy dayz lol ~naughty ~naughty ~naughty
ps hi Steve

Nw cut angler obviously is a barry hearn clone, when you grow up son you’l find out that you will be able to formulate your own opinion and not someone elses, makes a change from copy and paste! nuff said ~naughty

@ninefingers wrote:

Jesus wept!!!! Have you got sod all to do but write rubbish all day quoting this that and the other!!! Who gives a flying ____ about who wins this n that? If you spent as much time practicing as you do talking you would be World champion in anything you chose!!!
Upto 215pm you have replied 14 times!!!!
JK Rowling could have wrote another Harry Potter novel for my mate Woody in that time you have spent on here!!!
14 times and i bet after iv posted this it will be 15 lol GET A LIFE MAN???
I thought this was a fishing forum????
Oh Happy dayz lol ~naughty ~naughty ~naughty
ps hi Steve

You obviously never read or chose to ignore Geepsters warning re conduct.

@Fred Davis wrote:

Nw cut angler obviously is a barry hearn clone, when you grow up son you’l find out that you will be able to formulate your own opinion and not someone elses, makes a change from copy and paste! nuff said ~naughty

like you with Ultima Fred~think

I think for myself thankyou. Is Hearn right on this occasion? Yes. Hence why I would include quotes from him and others. Next you will be accusing me of being Sid Waddell. Far better to construct reasoned arguments than throw petty insults with no reasoning.

Perhaps you would be better advise Fred to stick to discussing angling or the Post Office (End of this post removed)

NWCA – Please refrain from the insults.

To ALL – Please dont let this thread get silly.

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

@ninefingers wrote:

Jesus wept!!!! Have you got sod all to do but write rubbish all day quoting this that and the other!!! Who gives a flying ____ about who wins this n that? If you spent as much time practicing as you do talking you would be World champion in anything you chose!!!
Upto 215pm you have replied 14 times!!!!
JK Rowling could have wrote another Harry Potter novel for my mate Woody in that time you have spent on here!!!
14 times and i bet after iv posted this it will be 15 lol GET A LIFE MAN???
I thought this was a fishing forum????
Oh Happy dayz lol ~naughty ~naughty ~naughty
ps hi Steve

You obviously never read or chose to ignore Geepsters warning re conduct.

he ( ninefingers) has got a point though.

Well done Martin Adams!~clap ~clap lol

Martin Adams Vs N W Cut Angler

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/darts/8440534.stm

amusing!! thought this was a fishing site though

In all seriousness how did this guy even qualify, he never even had a shot at a double. ~clap

nwca could i ask how long youve been following darts?for most of us old school dart addicts who have followed darts for 30+ years the bdo champs still remains the highlight of the year i can only assume (correct me if im wrong)that youve not been following darts for long and this is why you are so anti bdo there is no doubting that philip taylor is an awsome sportsman but remember where he + most of his rivals in the pdc started .I do watch pdc matches /grand slam ect but think the “order” given to proffesional sportsmen is appauling what would you feel like if someone was leaping up and down shouting behind you in a fishing match as regards your comments about trina gulliver they beggar belief maybe she should join the pdcs women world champs oh i forgot they havent got one kind regards shep

NWCA may I remind you that a couple of years ago that the BDO world final was Webster-Whitlock. This year both lads reached the semi finals of the PDC world champs against arguably two of the players with the best records in history! Now if the BDO is such a low standard how the hell did that happen! Whitlcok beat Jenkins, Wade and Barney! Dont knock the BDO or im sure you wouldnt see the likes of the players switching over that we are! Chisnall was Unseeded going into it and reached the final and I (dunno what anyone else thought) thought he played some very good darts! He would have learnt alot from losing that final whihc is the only way to get better so dont knock him! Adams is BDO through and through if he won it every year id see your point but he doesnt! So I dont see your point! Who knows maybe we will see Chisnall in the PDC soon? You clearly have your opinion and i have mine lets agree to disagree eh? Same as alot of people on this thread disagree with you!

Hmmmm….Remember what i said on another thread about biting ones tongue when reading some posts !!!

@shep2 wrote:

nwca could i ask how long youve been following darts?for most of us old school dart addicts who have followed darts for 30+ years the bdo champs still remains the highlight of the year i can only assume (correct me if im wrong)that youve not been following darts for long and this is why you are so anti bdo there is no doubting that philip taylor is an awsome sportsman but remember where he + most of his rivals in the pdc started .I do watch pdc matches /grand slam ect but think the “order” given to proffesional sportsmen is appauling what would you feel like if someone was leaping up and down shouting behind you in a fishing match as regards your comments about trina gulliver they beggar belief maybe she should join the pdcs women world champs oh i forgot they havent got one kind regards shep

30+ years also.

A quote from a knowledgeable darts oficiando

the BDO is all centred around Martin Adams, plenty of people arent keen on him or the compere martin fitzmorris they have their own little club with Trina Gulliver (Womens Champion)nobody else gets the things he gets in the BDO, but lets be honest not one of them would stand a chance against barney or the power its a different league all together. the BBC dont spend real money on sport unless its football or F1 and thats partly why all the really good players go to the PDC,more tournaments, more money, more razmataz, better looking women, more fans theres just no comparison.

Personally any TRUE darts fans knows and acknowledges that the PDC is by far the better darts competition and has done far more for professional darts than the BDO has in decades.

The BDO is about the volunteers, the people that make things happen at an amateur level but have steadily grown tired of being screwed by people like Olly earning a living / prestige on the back of their efforts. Hence, why the Counties have now given Olly no option and yet still he pontificates and lies just as he did to the likes of Bristow and led to the formation of the PDC.

My argument is very simple and nobody no matter what they want can deny it;

Phil Taylor is the best male darts player in the world. Anastasia Dobromyslova is the best female darts player in the world. Hence both Adams and Gulliver are fake World Champions.

When the BDO commentators ask was a darts player drunk then it is time to wrap up a second tier fake competition.

For my twopenneth,i think there ought to be a world champs for around the clock~clap ~clap ~clap

LOL bremes ~clap

@TomW wrote:

NWCA may I remind you that a couple of years ago that the BDO world final was Webster-Whitlock. This year both lads reached the semi finals of the PDC world champs against arguably two of the players with the best records in history! Now if the BDO is such a low standard how the hell did that happen! Whitlcok beat Jenkins, Wade and Barney! Dont knock the BDO or im sure you wouldnt see the likes of the players switching over that we are! Chisnall was Unseeded going into it and reached the final and I (dunno what anyone else thought) thought he played some very good darts! He would have learnt alot from losing that final whihc is the only way to get better so dont knock him! Adams is BDO through and through if he won it every year id see your point but he doesnt! So I dont see your point! Who knows maybe we will see Chisnall in the PDC soon? You clearly have your opinion and i have mine lets agree to disagree eh? Same as alot of people on this thread disagree with you!

You obviously do not read threads properly. Players that move to the PDC improve or they do not winm anything. Past BDO world champions have moved and won nothing. Some BDO players have moved and improved. Whitlock has.

The standard of the BDO WC is getting worse year by year because more players have moved and very good young players are moveing much sooner. Ergo my point that the BDO is a feeder league for the PDC. You keep disagreeing but validating my POV. Thankyou.

Do you think I am intimidatwed by a mob trying to shout me down. Errr no. When you are right you can never lose the argument. Those that cannot win the argument resort to petty insults and no reasoning. Wait they seem to be the majority in this thread ~think

like someone has already said well have to agree to disagree on this one im not into falling out lifes too short

I don’t fall out with anybody on the net Shep. It is just debate.

In touch with the ground
I’m on the hunt I’m after you
Smell like I sound, I’m lost in a crowd
And I’m hungry like the wolf
Straddle the line in discord and rhyme
I’m on the hunt I’m after you
Mouth is alive with juices like wine
And I’m hungry like the wolf!!!!~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap

Bloody hell Dave I know we aint doing much fishing at moment but wot the f$$$ you been reading or listen to.~think

NWCA, I didn’t catch your thoughts on my point:

“Darts is more popular now than ever. Is that because of, or in spite of having two governing bodies and two World Championships? Surely it is good for the sport (in terms of broadening its appeal) to still have a major event on terrestrial television? Even if the standard is lower, it is still impressive compared to those of us who chuck a few arrows down the pub once in a blue moon; therefore, it can still make for a good spectacle.”

So basically I am acknowledging that the PDC World Champs is a higher standard, but challenging your assertion that the BDO World Champs should be scrapped.

@bremes wrote:

For my twopenneth,i think there ought to be a world champs for around the clock~clap ~clap ~clap

Put my name down please! LOL.

NW CUT!!!
I dont wish to sound offensive and you are entitled to your opinions but 19 replies is a bit much for a darts subject unless im wrong lol. ~naughty ~naughty ~naughty

Maybe the BDO event should just be called the BDO Championship with the dropping of the word “world” from its title.

Adams was on talksport this morning,i didnt realise as i dont follow darts to any great extent these days that if he moved to PDC he would no longer be able to represent England,i was’nt listening too closely but im sure thats what he said.

So if there was a programme on BBC about fishing, covering a standard 5-hour match, would this be detrimental to the image of fishing, because it did not have all of the entertainment value of, for example, Fish’o’mania, with half-hourly weigh-ins, etc? Maybe my analogy is not fair, but I don’t believe that for a second. Surely the exposure increases the appeal, level of interest and, hence, level of participation?

As for the ‘image of darts’, I think that most people still think of darts as being for fat, common people who drink too much. And I do not think that Barry Hearn has had much success in changing that! I’d be intrigued to know what exactly the “image of darts that (Barry Hearn) has tried to cultivate” is.

Phil Taylor practices extremely hard and is probably more professional than any of the other players, but I still do not think that many people take darts seriously as a professional sport.

It does, however, make for good, entertaining TV, particularly with the music, dolly birds and lively crowds!

Im still laughin at NWCA for trying to validate his point with a quote from Sid Waddell! ~clap

I watched some of the Masters snooker this afternoon and now snooker is even introducing music for the players entrance to try and spice things up to make it more popular..Seems that they have taken a leaf out of the way darts is introduced so i think that says a lot for the popularity of darts.I’d be just as happy watching either the BDO or the PDC as at the end of the day its exactly the same game,however,i think the BDO matches are a bit more closely contested which makes for better viewing imho.

@TomW wrote:

Im still laughin at NWCA for trying to validate his point with a quote from Sid Waddell! ~clap

I guess all our opinions are worth more than Sid Waddells. Your comment is ill advised given recent events on here re Grant Albutt.

@WOODY999 wrote:

I watched some of the Masters snooker this afternoon and now snooker is even introducing music for the players entrance to try and spice things up to make it more popular..Seems that they have taken a leaf out of the way darts is introduced so i think that says a lot for the popularity of darts.I’d be just as happy watching either the BDO or the PDC as at the end of the day its exactly the same game,however,i think the BDO matches are a bit more closely contested which makes for better viewing imho.

Barry Hearn has returned to snooker Woody after the players rebelled against the then leadership.

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

@WOODY999 wrote:

I watched some of the Masters snooker this afternoon and now snooker is even introducing music for the players entrance to try and spice things up to make it more popular..Seems that they have taken a leaf out of the way darts is introduced so i think that says a lot for the popularity of darts.I’d be just as happy watching either the BDO or the PDC as at the end of the day its exactly the same game,however,i think the BDO matches are a bit more closely contested which makes for better viewing imho.

Barry Hearn has returned to snooker Woody after the players rebelled against the then leadership.

NWCA..Tell me something that i dont already know.I saw BH being interviewed during the UK Champs.

Bit harsh that Gaz~naughty

Well barry hearn has certainly jazzed up the snooker,players coming on to music aka darts,wonder if barry hearn will now do the same for fisho~think ~think what would the finalists come on the bank to~think

Steve Ringer…..Always look on the bright side of life

Nathan Watson…wide eyed n legless..(joke nathan) 🙂

anymore??

Gaz Wood

If he qualified moany moany!!! lol

@redpaste wrote:

Gaz Wood

If he qualified moany moany!!! lol

Spot on Andy.

Snooty,what the heck you on about (scratches head).