Aint you lucky getting to spread 28 over two lakes. We have about 20-22 members who fish the away days and we find every peg is in and we are crammed on the lake. And the lake isnt the best as the organiser aways leaves it to last minute to book.

Vote with your feet. When choosing venues for our club, the generosity of the pegging is a significant consideration. We fish Messingham Sands a lot and the pegging there is very good. The pegs are already well spaced and the owner will often give you plenty of room (ie, more pegs than you book). There are a few venues (I won’t name and shame because I will probably upset some people) in the Yorks/ Notts/ Lincs area that my club just doesn’t go to any more, because the pegging used to wind people up as you are pretty much sat on top of each other!

I believe this to be common practice,i can only put it down to the fact that clubs usually book one or two matches a year at any particular venue whereas the open matches are usually frequented by the same anglers week in week out therefore they are being rewarded for their loyalty..I’m not saying this is right though as i think it is a raw deal being crammed into a lake,especially if other lakes are going begging with very few or no anglers on them !

37 pegs for 28 anglers seems very reasonable IMO

Look at it another way. The open match anglers turn up week after week and pay there peg fees. I dont see many club matches when the weather gets freezing cold and the fishing is crap. However, the match anglers will be at the draw every weekend with there peg fees no matter what the weather is like.

Also, on venues like Cudmore and quite a few of my other open match venues. The match lads get moved around the pools all the time to fit in with all the club bookings in the summer. There are quite a few venues where the match lads never get to fish the better pools in the summer because clubs book those pools based on past open match results.

I can think of at least 5 local commercial venues to Manchester that will give you what your asking for in the winter months. Cudmore, Heronbrook, Hampton Springs, lloyds meadow and Partridge. The only anglers your likely to see on most weekends in winter are open match anglers and the odd 10 peg club match. However, dont also expect to have the pick of the best pools.

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

37 pegs for 28 anglers seems very reasonable IMO

Bit of a sweeping statement that,depends on lake/pool layout,islands/corners etc etc

Jeff,i dont think NWCA has any perception of the layout of commercials,he’s just used to sitting in a straight line where the format of the pegs are usually pretty similar to each other..At least he can only annoy two other anglers (the ones either side of him) as there wouldn’t be anyone unfortunate enough to be facing him..lol

🙂

I can think of some venues that I would not want to fish even if they gave you 50 pegs for 28 anglers. There are some really shocking venues out there where the pegging is appalling.

Last year i went on a club match on Hambleton fisheries, the club was told the lake we was fishing had 35 pegs when we arrived there was only 34 and some of them had only just been cut out.

The length between pegs was shocking, some pegs you could touch each other with your top 3’s. Some fisheries just aren’t bothered once they’ve got your money they don’t care.

lazy al are you talking east and west here if so there are no bad pegs a bit more space will make some better but thats up to you your going to choose which to leave out.
its a match it doesent matter if its won with 20lb or 150lb if you want to catch tons go pleasure fishing midweek and if you dont go back to the drawing board LOL

thats typical of some fishery owners, they don’t seem to understand that in winter when they have loads of available water, that more room = more fish = happy anglers = venue booked again!!!

The way i run my lake is this.
I have 120 pegs, 60 each side of the lake.
One bank is a road, and the other is walking. The road side is for Carp anglers and pleasure anglers, and the walking side is for matches. The simple reason is, carp anglers will come for the weekend, and pay for 48 hours, the match angler, who also wants to park behind his peg, but wants me to have the peg empty for when he arrives, but only pays for 5 hours!

Matches on the match bank, do have the better fishing, anyone that knows Barston knows that bank is better.

As spacing, my pegs are 10 yards apart, (which i belive should be the minimum, i have seen 6 yards elswhere) it gives much more versatility.
If a match books in the summer, they will be given every peg in a line, from 1 to 60. sometimes 2 or 3 matches, 60 is my max, the rest of the lake is for others. IF there is only one match booked on that day, i will give them every other peg, and tell them to spread out, if there is room, (or 2 matches, with room) i will give them 2 pegs miss one.
Saturdays are the same, if there is no other match they can have every other peg.

It is my best interest to give them more room, and have a better day, and have a happy returning customer!

BUT, i couldent give a booking every other peg or 2 miss one months in advance, i will only do it on the day.

Sounds like you do it right nigel~clap but I think your place is a little different with it having 2 sides and so many pegs.
We (20 Anglers)walk with our feet if we get badley treated or pegged poorly at one venue then we don’t bother going back ,there is plenty of fisheries out there who will go that extra mile for the club anglers . I do think we get a bad deal compared to the “open Angler ” ,most if not all the opens around our way give the open anglers 2 if not 3 pegs,and they are supposed to be the “Experts ” Yet us club anglers who fish the place 1 or 2 times a year get put peg to peg . We are lucky around our way as there is loads of places that will let us have the whole lake even some times when there is 36 pegs.
One place we go to actually brought us all a drink out when it was freezing ,and always gives us a free drink in the morning when we draw and no I’m not letting on where it is ~shh

This problem always happens at Foston (Nottinghamshire) its not Geoff’s fault as the saturday opens are span over the three lakes then come sunday when it’s a clubby, each club are shoulder to shoulder on each lake and the complex fishes lots harder

as run-DMC once said . . . . . . . . . . . . .

IT’S LIKE THAT, AND THATS THE WAY IT IS . . . ~think

@WOODY999 wrote:

Jeff,i dont think NWCA has any perception of the layout of commercials,he’s just used to sitting in a straight line where the format of the pegs are usually pretty similar to each other..At least he can only annoy two other anglers (the ones either side of him) as there wouldn’t be anyone unfortunate enough to be facing him..lol

Thankyou for the constructive non personal post. My experience of commercials is that if you do not peg parts of a lake then guess where the majority of the fish will go ~think 37 pegs for 28 anglers is ample room to leave the odd difficult peg out and even then I would prefer for the empty pegs to be singular and not grouped together.

NWCA, lol or a smiley face signifies a joke ~think

jonnny mac wrote

NWCA, lol or a smiley face signifies a joke

Careful what you say else we will have another good angler leaving this site and not inparting any of their valuable knowledge LOL

@redpaste wrote:

jonnny mac wrote

NWCA, lol or a smiley face signifies a joke

Careful what you say else we will have another good angler leaving this site and not inparting any of their valuable knowledge LOL

bullseye 🙂

pay per lake. believe it or not it,s a busines.u still cld,nt do many other sports or hobbies for the price of a day ticket.~ ~think

I think a great deal depends on how much the club uses the fishery througout the year. My club had a couple of matches at a local fishery and one of them 23 of were put on a 30 peg pool that on an open would only have 12 pegs put on it and that’s on a good day.

yet another fairly local fishery spread 18 of us over 2 of his lakes cos as he said he wanted all to have a good day, and we did.

The only difference is that we use the second fishery alot more throughout the year Winter leagues practise matches etc:

NWCA,I was only trying to inject a little bit of humour and was extracting the Michael,hence the lol bit at the end..Dont take it too personally as i try not to go down that route so come on,lighten up a bit.

P.S. You do come across as though your a bit of an expert on everything though..lol :¬) :¬) lol.

Woody999, im the only expert left on this site. Im planning my escape on Thursday after chucking my rattle out of my pram in the direction of NWCA. Its all his fault, lol

@WOODY999 wrote:

NWCA,I was only trying to inject a little bit of humour and was extracting the Michael,hence the lol bit at the end..Dont take it too personally as i try not to go down that route so come on,lighten up a bit.

P.S. You do come across as though your a bit of an expert on everything though..lol :¬) :¬) lol.

I certainly am 😉

Apologies I missed your lol

Now thats more like it,you me & trueblue having a bit of light hearted banter.Just shows that things dont have to go down the same route of so many other threads on this site eh~clap ~clap ~clap

Lazy Al, that is a fair point. Club anglers are often quick to blame the pegging if they catch half the open match weights, when, quite often, the quality of the angler is the main difference.

You ask any Angler whether they would like to fish peg to peg or every other peg and I’m sure they would want more room ,more room equals more fish ,usually.
I’ve seen it at many places when there has been a big turn out for the opens and straight away the locals usually say the weights will be down today because there is to many anglers on the venue .You do get exceptions but from my experience this is usually what happens .