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    • #36532

      TF_gunta

        Shortly will be doing some top kits with preston 9h, whats your opinions on puller bung or hole in side wall.pros , cons and opinions please.

      • #91001

        TF_bagging machine
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          IMO the side hole is best, Its lighter, neater, quicker, still use a clean cap on the No4, better control and the No.4 can be left in place which can be useful on deeper venues.
          Only disadvantage is its more costly.

        • #91026

          TF_Mike Herrington

            Just changed all of mine from pullabung to side kit (10 tops in total).

            Now the hole has been drilled..the topkits are soooooo much lighter.
            ~clap ~clap

          • #91027

            Alex_Ray
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              @Mike Herrington wrote:

              Just changed all of mine from pullabung to side kit (10 tops in total).

              Now the hole has been drilled..the topkits are soooooo much lighter.
              ~clap ~clap

              Pm sent to you, need some help!

            • #91029

              Anonymous

                @Mike Herrington wrote:

                Just changed all of mine from pullabung to side kit (10 tops in total).

                Now the hole has been drilled..the topkits are soooooo much lighter.
                ~clap ~clap

                pmsl does the 10 grams make that much difference??

              • #91039

                THE ORICAL

                  Holes all the way!! pole is much stiffer no bung , no elastic stored on bung, clean cap can be left in no4!!

                • #91041

                  TF_craigm

                    I’ve just had mine wrapped and drilled and they are excellent. ~clap

                  • #91046

                    TF_browning
                    Participant

                      get ron savage to do the side holes for you mate he drills and puts a wrap on them brilliant

                    • #91049

                      Nick D

                        How much did you pay to have your kits drilled?

                        Can i do it myself?

                      • #91053

                        TF_Anthonywaters
                        Participant

                          Nick once you drill em its permanent remember you can always put a hole in but you cant take it out !Seriously though what you going to do when you have done all your top kits and something happens like all fisheries ban pully kits or something far more superior is designed ?

                        • #91055

                          Nick D

                            Very good point.

                            I will just stick to Pulla Bungs.

                          • #91058

                            TF_Anthonywaters
                            Participant

                              Some places dont like pull kits because they dont like the ammount of pressure that can be applied, and its amazing how things can suddenly lose popularity I remember when the pole length was lifted at Whiteacres you needed pole extensions to compete hundreds bought pole extensions two minutes later the 16m rule is back in place. Im a bit sceptical about backing any sort of trend.~clap ~clap ~clap

                            • #91065

                              TF_Waveney One

                                All those holes and if they get pulled off

                                they will sink like a stone ~shh ~shh ~sick

                              • #91084

                                TF_wightangler

                                  what drill bit and does wrapping a bit of gaaffer tape around first help?
                                  was going to this to my universal power kits first as they are much thicker gauge carbon.
                                  But all tips on doing this and ‘don’t’s appreciated.

                                • #91214

                                  TF_bagging machine
                                  Participant

                                    Wightangler you have PM

                                  • #91215

                                    TF_bagging machine
                                    Participant

                                      @Waveney One wrote:

                                      All those holes and if they get pulled off

                                      they will sink like a stone ~shh ~shh ~sick

                                      Answer dont drill flagship Daiwa poles.

                                    • #91216

                                      TF_simmy

                                        What type of PTFE bush /gromit would you use in the side hole ?

                                      • #91218

                                        TF_bagging machine
                                        Participant

                                          Maver No5 cut @ 45 degrees or better still find some one who can make ptfe grommet shaped bushes that pop into place & dont need glueing.

                                        • #91268

                                          TF_bryanh
                                          Participant

                                            I converted two No3 kits to side pullers for my G8 which I normally use in conjunction with Big-Bore No 1s.
                                            Fortunately I have loads of thin-wall carbon tube so I simply selected a suitable diameter and araldited a three inch long sleeve at the appropriate distance from the female end. No need for any special bushes, I use standard PTFE internal bushes with a bore of around 4mm.
                                            No need to glue in place, the shoulder on the bush prevents it disappearing inside the section. The only downside I have found with these kits is that the top kit tends to fill with water if you fish with the tip below the surface (when fishing in a wind – strong surface tow for example.)This is obviously due to the hole in the side bush releasing the air which would otherwise be trapped in the No3 section and while it hasn’t happened yet, I suppose there is a danger that the Big-Bore No1 could snap when striking, due to the weight of the trapped water.You soon get into the discipline of keeping the pole tip above water however.
                                            Otherwise, no problems at all and have landed carp to 1olbs or more on a fairly regular basis.

                                          • #91271

                                            TF_piperpilot

                                              Personally I’ll stick to bungs as I don’t like bullying fish and I’m not interested in pulling them in as fast as possible. I enjoy the fight and from the second the float dips. Not preaching but speed fishing and money isn’t the reason I love the sport,

                                            • #91279

                                              TF_Waveney One

                                                Hear hear PP. Playing the fish has always been one of the high lights of angling to me.

                                              • #91297

                                                TF_bryanh
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                                                  The main purpose of a pull bung is not for bullying fish (I do apreciate however that there are some commercial venues where this is practiced when mega weights are being pursued.) but is to allow lighter elastics to be used while providing a bit of reserve power if something a bit bigger than normal comes along.
                                                  The commercials which I match fish generally contain fish of widely differing weights but with a core stock of carp between two and five pounds. These can generally be targeted with medium elastics -say 8 to 10- without any undue problems. Occasionally however, the odd lump, between eight and ten pounds will turn up but a number eight elastic in conjunction with a pull bung is more than adequate to subdue these reasonably quickly without resorting to bullying tactics.
                                                  I also enjoy playing fish but there are times when the additional pressure created by a pull bung can be a useful control when the odd ‘bigger than expected’ specimen turns up.

                                                • #91310

                                                  TF_Anthonywaters
                                                  Participant

                                                    I fitted pull bungs and purple hydro last year to speed up landing big fish I tried it once and it was just too much I though the carps head was going to come off ! Too much for me that carry on !What about using both a pull bung and a side hole pulley kit you could exert even more pressure ?

                                                  • #91322

                                                    TF_craigm

                                                      I have just converted 6 of my power match kits to pulla kits, through these i have threaded doubled preston slip 2x no5, 2x no6 and 2x no8. The No5+6 are the main kits i will use as i feel they are ample for the places i mainly fish(lindholme, farview,the oaks etc) the no8 is for Woodlands and Hayfield where the carp have grown to a decent size and is the largest size elastic i now use as i have done away with my black hydro. I do not have the pulla’s so i can bully fish but so i have more chance of landing bonus fish, if i am using a doubled no5 or 6 and get a 10lb carp on i would have no chance without the pulla. I have used pulla bungs for ages and just thought converting the kit was a neater and lighter option.

                                                    • #91330

                                                      TF_Mike Herrington

                                                        The harder you pull, the harder the fish pulls back.

                                                      • #91354

                                                        TF_Fred Davis

                                                          The only advantages I can see are 1) when foul hooking carp using a puller bung is easier and less dangerous than handlining,2)when fishing for say a mixed net carp and skimmers using say white hydro enables you to land the skimmers with ease whilst taking excess laccy on a lump apart from that I agree with piperpilot I like to enjoy my angling and fish need to be handled respscetably, all bully boy tactics do is increae hook pulls imo however I will say good anglers like Mark Wells who do use the pulla bungs are very proficient and I have never seen him bully a fish yet, keeping the pole low he coaxes the fish in which will keep close to the surface for easy netting, so I suppose it also depends on how you apply yourself to the method.

                                                        • #91360

                                                          TF_MarkT

                                                            I think people are missing the point with pulla bungs, it’s so you can fish lighter gear but be able to land them bigger fish not bulling them.

                                                          • #91373

                                                            TF_Waveney One

                                                              The only time that I pull the elastic is when I am snagged up. If I can get the top set back to hand then I use the bung extractor to get the bung out out and pull on the elastic through the top kit rather than the elastic between pole top and rig. If I can I keep pole tip under the water and then I don’t stand the risk of the pole float coming back and sticking in my hand.

                                                              Very Vary occasionally I have done the same when I have had an unexpectedly large fish on light elastic. It does work, but I wouldn’t put pulla bungs into my top kits normally.

                                                            • #91430

                                                              TF_matt haines

                                                                i prefer the side kits for lightness and fishing deeper venues!
                                                                for anyone who has a maver competition pole, maver have just bought out a power top kit with an extra suncore wrap on the number 3 section so that you can drill and fit the bush of your choice in. they are the same price as the normal power kit. so anyone looking to get some new top kits this will prob be your cheapist option, saves paying extra to get them wrapped.

                                                              • #91501

                                                                Wangla

                                                                  Just use it to aid netting the very occasional lump on black hydro.

                                                                • #91514

                                                                  TF_Selfey

                                                                    I use pulla bungs side wall becouse they are easier simple as, no more fishing bungs out the inside of poles.If you use a rubber bead at the hole it helps prevent water filling up the top 3.

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