Stick float Hooklength??

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    • #37131

      TF_Bucks
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        I’m fishing the River Stour at Shipston on Sunday, I fished it a few times before and have a problem with being snapped by the Chub in there when hooking them on the stick float.

        Its quite snaggy so you have to put pressure on as soon as you hook them as they dart for the snags.

        The problem I have is if I use anything over .09 power line I really struggle for bites but when using .09 and below I get snapped too often as it has little or no stretch.

        Can anyone reccommend a good hooklength line for this scenario?

        Cheers, Bucks

      • #94447

        TF_The Ginger magician

          Maxima has loads of stretch but not sure if carrying on using light line is the way think i would up the line strength and use bigger baits chunk of meat or bread or a big lobby remember its better to get 3 bites and land all of them then get 20 and land none

        • #94451

          TF_Fordy

            Tricky!!

            I’d try fluoro hooklengths. If that doesn’t work, change your bait and fish big pieces of flake having fed balls of liccy.

            Failing that, try fishing a feeder and if possible cast upstream to the fish. That way the flow wi help take fish away from the snag.

          • #94465

            TF_inky finger

              Hi bucks. Try the old favourites first, bayer perlon 1.5 or the same in maxima see if you can get bites on either of them.(From a purely personal point of view i would only use sensible lines and get them out). Switch to the equivalent in a hi-tech diameter and play around with your feeding, shotting,size of float, speed of presentation.
              You may find that the float rod has to much power in the tip. Its a bit more expensive than a spool of line but try and find or borrow a original Tricast john alterton spliced tip (black blank purple whippings). I use mine for roach on 0.6 on the ouse and on the kennet for big chub using 0.16. The 16 ft is the dogs pajama’s.

            • #94506

              TF_matt haines

                i fish the severn a lot for roach and chub if im on a roach peg i will fish anything from 0.08 to 0.10 if i drawer a chub peg i will always start on 0.14 the reason for this is 9 times out of ten if the chub are feding you will normally get one straight away. the last thing you wanna do is lose it! so many anglers start on 0.08 hook a chub early doors and lose it! a lost chub can sometimes sppok the shoal and they will move off. rememder you can always scale down but you cant always get the shoal back once theyve been spooked! just to add to this it will also depend on the pace of the the swim your fishing!! if its fast flowing then you will be able to fish heavier! if its a slower swim u can fish a bit lighter

              • #94510

                TF_Craftytafty

                  inky finger is right, try not using a high tech line. We used to use 1.7 bayer and even 1.1 bayer and get chub barbel out no problem, look at your rod too. When I look back at the fish we used to get out on light tackle makes me think we sometimes fish far too heavy now

                • #94550

                  TF_Bucks
                  Participant

                    Thanks for all your replies, gives me something to go on ~clap

                  • #94563

                    gonk
                    Participant

                      never known chub to be bothered by thicker lines they are eating machines once feeding they dont care about your line beef it up and hang on

                    • #94574

                      TF_Chavender
                      Participant

                        three simple rules of thumb when choosing lines for chub fishing .

                        1)pick the B/s that = the size of fish expected ie 3lbs b/s for 3lbs or less chub

                        2)Add lbs B/s per rate for really snaggy swims

                        3)don’t namby-pamby around (the chub won’t) use a line you can give some stick too ,no room for wussy hi tech stuff here.

                      • #94687

                        TF_dave brittain

                          I’d have no hesitation in fishing 0.14 or even 0.16 hook lengths for chub especially in snaggy pegs. Three maggots on a strong 16 or 14 will usually do the trick.

                          Often many anglers think I won’t get away with that however the reality is that most anglers follow the trend rather than doing what they need to do to get the fish out.

                        • #94745

                          TF_pr@ngler

                            Not done this for a while but I never got on with the early Hi-Tech lines on the stick float or running water waggler.

                            I found the constant casting and retrieving, coupled with the fine diameter meant that I got pigtailed hooklengths. I suppose I could have used thicker Hi-Tech hook lengths, but that would have meant the bs of the hooklength was greater than the mainline, which was something we avoided in those days.

                            Other alternative to prevent pigtails was to retrieve with a fish on, but I rarely managed that.

                          • #94876

                            TF_Dave Pellet

                              At one time I used lower diameter lines straight thru for fishing the river as in many places I thought it was too shallow to use hooklengths

                              but canned that because of the problems with weakened line (whether it be caused by line spin or by the shot damaging the line)

                              now I use Drennan Floatfish in a slightly lower strength if I want to fish straight thru, alternatively I use Floatfish with a Shimano Antares hooklength attached via a microswivel, which I use as my last dropper

                            • #95032

                              TF_matt haines

                                yea i always use a micro swivel as a dropper and to eliminate line spin. dont mess about with chub ive never caught a chub with a micrometer on it. a good mate of mine and a well respected match angler catches chub on the canal (pleasure fishing) with plugs, he says its great fun and they pretty much have it straight away so they are not shy!

                              • #95093

                                TF_The Runner

                                  On my local river where the chub now average around 4lb, wouldn’t consider less than 0.13 hooklength on a chub swim and usually go for 0.15 on the real snagpits. If you get the feeding right and they’re having it , not line-shy at all,;
                                  Need usually to show them who’s in charge immediately they’re hooked as once they get a head of steam up you’re in trouble-
                                  Can get problems when hooking them well down the swim on a small river as if all they have to do is go a couple of yards to the side its not easy to stop them doing so whatever gear you’re on. Personally in those circumstances I’ll try to play them with the rod pointing downstream as soon as I can to get the angle to put pressure on and keep them off the far side.

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