Protak all the way!! Best value, made to measure, waterproof & hardwearing. Nuff said!!
Regards Peter

go for the gortex mate you wont be disapointed it will last you years as long as you wash it with the right soaps . pro takis good but will not last as long as gortex me and a few of my mates have the diawa tournament gortex and wouldnt swap for any thin else i also no a couple people with pro tak but after around 18months it has started to break down and start to leak as gortex i have had mine 2 years now still as good as new .

you can buy 4 sets of protak for the price of a set of goretex say no more~clap ~think

Top Kit, get the Protak TR Clothing, i have a pole jacked & trouser’s for summer & then the bib n brace with a 3/4 coat for winter.
iv used protak clothing for well over 10yrs (maybe cos im sponsored by them & Barlows tackle) but iv never had any trouble with it leaking. some of my mates who’v moved to other teams say they miss the protak clothing in the winter because its a lot warmer the gortex.
When i need to wash it i put it on the coolest wash with no soaps in then hang it up to drip dry, its always been fine.

ille second that red 10years on still waterproof one third the cost oh diawa gortex get some service in 2years i bet you aint taken em out the plastic bag lol Protak all the way

Daiwa goretex, just bought the new tourney stuff and know a few people with the older stuff. Its dear but it THE BEST MONEY CAN BUY! end of story. Its all depends on wether money is no object like with anything else. The Preston drifish 1000 is alo very good.

A lot of misconceptions about waterproof clothing.

Goretex is the most efficient breathable waterproof material, but it is only a membrane. It possesses little or no thermal qualities, therefore it is unsurprising that Protak is “warmer” this is because it contains more thermal-efficient composites that do not affect water-proofing capability.

As for cost.

You may find Goretex expensive.

If you do, this is most likely because you are paying over the odds to have Daiwa or Halkon-Hunt emblazoned across it.

This will not improve its hydraulic performance although you may feel more content with your labels.

Just find a reasonable outdoor clothing retailer and purchase Goretex branded clothing from them.

Caster Rob is not wrong but then none of us are totally right.

Protak gear is also warmer because it already comes with a liner stitched in. You can get unlined as well for summer showers etc.

Goretex by Daiwa/HH if you have money to burn and want to be part of the ‘in crowd’.

Protak if want your money to be of value.

Top Kit

I’ve used Protak TR for over 10yrs, at the northern intersite at the oaks it p***sed down heavily all day did not hear one complaint from anybody using TR clothing, warm and waterproof.

You can wash TR in a machine with a little detergent, most gortex recommend re-proofing adding to wash.

You can buy as caster rob say’s lightweight slip over and trousers for summer and quilt lined pole jacket and B&B in the TR twice for a lot less than the cost of gortex.

I’m another vote for TR.

Has anyone got the Tri Cast clothing?

Would appreciate any comments as it looks good, they offer a made to measure service and the price is competitive.

Perhaps technically Gortex is better than the TR equivalent. How many people have computers or iphones that do a lot more than you ever need? So if the techies are correct and Goretex is THE ‘most efficient breathable waterproof material’ – so what??

However as I have said on here before, you cannot be drier than the 100% dry that you get with Protak TR so why pay the extra? In my experience delivery will be quicker, the price fairer and the product brilliant.

have had pro-tak clothing for years..had some serious abuse and its still going strong,the only thing i would advise against is the 3/4 length coat…its huge,you’d be far better off with a pole jacket with lining for the winter.

cant beat a barbour wax jacket.

biooldbigbutt sorry to dissapoint your statement barbour are very cold and leak at the seems after a heavy downpour even with being reproofed with melted wax and hairdryer treatment whereas protak once again is warmer cheaper and more waterproof

@bigoldbigbutt wrote:

cant beat a barbour wax jacket.

Now if we are going to be really silly, as a kid I was given a waxed ‘gas cape’ to wear in the winter for fishing. The ‘wax’ used was linseed oil that was used for everything, cricket bats and dressing on keepnets being but two. It used to fold up quite small but when it was really cold, it froze solid and crackled when you tried to open it or having eventually got it on tried to move in it!

http://www.2ndbattalionroyalulsterrifles.com/#/uniform-kit/4538262585

3rd photograph. Oh yes, they stank to high heaven as well! Burnt well when I eventually got rid of it though!

@Waveney One wrote:

Perhaps technically Gortex is better than the TR equivalent. How many people have computers or iphones that do a lot more than you ever need? So if the techies are correct and Goretex is THE ‘most efficient breathable waterproof material’ – so what??

However as I have said on here before, you cannot be drier than the 100% dry that you get with Protak TR so why pay the extra? In my experience delivery will be quicker, the price fairer and the product brilliant.

Quicker and fairer than whom?

The Gortex team stuff we bought from HH took ages to arrive and was expensive. It was some time ago now though to be fair. They were some of the reasons why we went to Protak for the next lot as we wanted the clothing for a National in September at the latest. It was promised months before then and finally arrived the week before the National. We certainly were not disappointed with the quality of Protak stuff either. I still have both jackets and the Protak one is better in my view. Both B & B’s have worn out but there again they suffer a lot more wear and tear, ge3t used every time I fish almost whereas the jackets hardly get worn at all in sunny Suffolk.

As I’ve previously alluded, try not to define Goretex by the produce of Daiwa, Halkon-Hunt etc.
Goretex is just a membrane attached to garments and is as expensive as the retailers can get away with charging.

I’ve tried Protak TR in the past, and while agreeing that it was waterproof I found it stiffer and heavier than Berghaus produced Goretex.

Rob, I didn’t say that you were incorrect in anything you wrote. Nor am I.

I have had Berghaus jackets in the past but not in team colours or in fact any colour I would use on the bank, coarse fishing. I have also had jackets from Bush with Thermore insulation and Sympatex allweather membrane. A Schoffel fleece with ‘windstopper’ which is the same trade name that HH gave for the ‘fleece’ that I bought with my original HH Goretex clothing and which my wife calls a wet suit jacket. It bears little relationship to a fleece at all but I still wear it to keep the wind out when fishing. I also have a Musto fleece with Polartec.

All of these are perfectly good jackets, keeping wind and rain out but none come in team colours or are usually seen with me fishing in them. There are some brilliant hiking/climbing jackets and leggings out there and usually cheaper than HH but as you say Protak is waterproof and as I said you can’t do 110% waterproof! It is either 100% or not waterproof at all.

Agreed that if you require clothing in team colours your choice is severely restricted, under which circumstances I’d probably choose Protak too.

I have got a dark blue Berghaus GT jacket which doesn’t look out of place on the riverbank IMO.

The RG1 jacket is a nice lightweight summer-type waterproof available in a variety of colours, for less than £50.

i have the sensas gortex and its the best clothing ive ever had, i also have the prestons dri fish 1000 and do NOT rate it, doesnt work to well in a down poor

It is a case of horses for courses Rob. You obviously know your stuff when it comes to outer wear.

By the way, the fleeces I mentioned probably just keep the wind out, I wouldn’t wear them without an outer jacket in proper rain :-).

I usually pick up my stuff when I’m on holiday in the Lake District, I try to go at least once a year.

Loads of outdoor clothing shops in Keswick, Ambleside, so they are quite competitive on price.
Last October I bought some Berghaus Deluge overtrousers for £25. These aren’t Goretex but have a material called Aquafoil that makes them water & wind-proof. Not let me down to date.

The “wind-bloc” type fleeces are warm because of the wind-repellant membrane which will keep a shower out for a while but doesn’t prevent the outer fleece material absorbing moisture.

Horses for courses as you say.

A couple of observations:

Goretex is normally a lightweight product and quite cool when designed for walking gear and therefore you need to have a larger size especially for winter to allow decent levels of fleeces et. al. to be donned to enable you to keep you warm.

A cheaper alternative is the “Event” membrane which many companies are utilising as a low cost alternative to Goretex, it’s very good and many say more effiecient than Goretex.

My team has Leon Grant clothing and whilst heavy in comparison to the above it has never ever let me down whilst fishing….. Wouldn’t want to walk in it though!!

A couple of observations:

Goretex is normally a lightweight product and quite cool when designed for walking gear and therefore you need to have a larger size especially for winter to allow decent levels of fleeces et. al. to be donned to enable you to keep you warm.

A cheaper alternative is the “Event” membrane which many companies are utilising as a low cost alternative to Goretex, it’s very good and many say more effiecient than Goretex.

My team has Leon Grant clothing and whilst heavy in comparison to the above it has never ever let me down whilst fishing….. Wouldn’t want to walk in it though!!

@Cutnut wrote:

Caster Rob is not wrong but then none of us are totally right.

Protak gear is also warmer because it already comes with a liner stitched in. You can get unlined as well for summer showers etc.

Goretex by Daiwa/HH if you have money to burn and want to be part of the ‘in crowd’.

Protak if want your money to be of value.

I bought my Tournament Goretex NOT because i wanted to be part of the “in crowd” but because it was available off the shelf.I also don’t have money to burn but the old adage “buy cheap buy twice” comes to mind.It was & is a sound investment & i shall not be changing it because the new Airity gear is out!
I have worn H-Hunt gear for numerous years after having various Team Gear supplied by the likes of Leon Grant,Protak etc.none of it comes close.~clap

A bin bag is 100% waterproof but who wants to wear that ~think
The breathability of goretex is what makes it the best. You can get wet from the inside from sweat and that’s what makes you cold.
Layers keep you warm so the thermal qualities of a waterproof are irrelavant. Lined waterproof are less versatile and fall apart quicker.

Gore-tex Halkon Hunt every time!!

GORE-TEX

But……………………….

If you have short arms and deep pockets then Gore-Tex is not for you ! ! ! ~think

@bliss wrote:

Has anyone got the Tri Cast clothing?

Would appreciate any comments as it looks good, they offer a made to measure service and the price is competitive.

The Tricast gear is Protak bliss

The inference by all Goretex owners is that anything else is just not worth it’s value. I have Berghaus goretex and it’s well made and despicably over-priced unless bought during a sale. It does what it says on the tin, but it’s not imho worth every penny pound for pound as my set of TR Protak which was bought for half the price and has stayed the course for the last 10 years and I fish at least twice a week and don’t use a big old brolly to scuttle under either.

I know of several anglers who have had wet crotch syndrome wearing HH gear and dozens who wear off the peg angling branded gear fair worse.

I would not give you 50p for Middy, Preston, Shakespeare, Browining, Garbolino or any off the peg contrivance with an angling brand name on it.

The Protak does all it says it does Keeps you dry warm and not wet from the inside.

I have both a goretex Cabalas Guidewear jacket, bib and brace and windstopper fleece from the states (less than half HH prices) plus a Protak TR lined jacket with bib and brace. To be honest they are both brilliant products and both keep me warm and dry.~clap