This thread should be labelled O/T and is in contravention of site rules, so should be locked/deleted/moderated/censored, at the very least!

Bally Holland will love the ground and should be around 20-1

@Geepster (moderator) wrote:

How about Madisson du Berlais for an outsider at 50-1? Didn’t it beat Kauto Star once?

It beat Denman 1st time out at kempton at 12/1 ..But has`nt beat kauto…

Snowy morning 20/1 is my tip

comply or die for me.

THE PACKAGE 14/1 …..

It will be in the first four whoever is on board , word is Graham Lee ~think he isnt too bad is he ~clap

I posted this on another correctly labelled O/T thread last night. 😉

How many horses have won carrying more than 11 stone in the last 20 years? Answer 3 and the most any have carried was 11-3 (Hedgehunter and he was 3rd in the following years Gold Cup).

Treat last year as a blip and stick to the rules:

Bin the 7-y-o
Bin the French Breds
Bin everything with more than 11 Stone
Bin the Dodgy Jumpers
Bin anything that has won more than twice in its’ last 8 runs (handicapper has hold of them).
Bin anything that hasn’t been placed in a decent quality race over at least 3 and a half miles in the last 2 years.

You’ll end up with:
Big Fella Thanks
Snowy Morning
King Johns Castle
Arbor Supreme

Personally I think it’s between the first and the last.

I’d go for Arbor Supreme from your list Roy, but flying in the face of convention I’ll have a little E/W on Cloudy Lane. Looks the type and is decent value.

I think the Aintree Hurdle should suit Zaynar.

I will be going for CREOSOTE as it’s good over fences~naughty ~clap ~clap

I’ll get my coat………..

So do I Rob, word is Ruby was worried about upsetting PN and Harry.

I can’t figure out why AP isn’t on Arbor Supreme but in a way I’m glad. Some get round there and some don’t and he’s a don’t.

Look at Carberrys’ record to APs’, remember the song “Act a bit barmy and become a lunatic….” Carberry is a loony but he gets them round and I always watch when he rides one for Uncle Arthur (and he’s on one tomorrow!)

King John’s Castle fits the bill for me. It is 40-1 and I have seen two other people mention it as a decent e/w bet, so I am going to stick my token £2 each way on this one!

I should add that I know absolutely NOTHING about horse racing (except that the first one that crosses the line with a jockey still on its back generally wins).

i’m going for one that is lightly raced and never fell, goes on any going stays beyond 4 miles, trainer in good form, is generally available at 66/1

FLINTOFF ~clap

main worry is it has pulled up too many times.~think

How about banning it altogether every year a horse gets killed.

I say ban fishing as well.

so why are you fishing then? PB.

@paulbrice58 wrote:

How about banning it altogether every year a horse gets killed.

Don`t remember a horse dying in 2007 national~naughty

2 horses just got killed in the Topham chase over the national course ….. sadly thats the nature of the game.

The bloke who posted ” ban fishing” must be a knob!

Arobor Supreme looks sock on for this one

the other 3 are
Giraffe won by a neck last time out
Dirty carpet Will take some beating
and finaly
My Bum that will take some licking

got me coat halfway out the door lol

@Geepster (moderator) wrote:

I agree.

Shall I lock it then????

@paulbrice58 wrote:

I say ban fishing as well.

I say ban paulbrice58 as well

Kev34 in 2007 Graphic Approach died, no horses died in 2004 & 2005 (don’t the years fly by).

1 horse has died each year from 2006 to 2009. 7 in total during the noughties

Like dodge said sadly that is the nature of the race (and agree with you all about PaulBrice58).

On wikipedia it states that 80 horses and 1 rider (in 1862) have died since it started in 1839. Most common cause broken legs or shoulders.

I got BallyHolland in our works sweep stake….

That’s got no chance now that I have it…..lol…

I’m going to have a a little bet on ‘The Package’

@Mick Fordham wrote:

Kev34 in 2007 Graphic Approach died, no horses died in 2004 & 2005 (don’t the years fly by).

1 horse has died each year from 2006 to 2009. 7 in total during the noughties

Like dodge said sadly that is the nature of the race (and agree with you all about PaulBrice58).

On wikipedia it states that 80 horses and 1 rider (in 1862) have died since it started in 1839. Most common cause broken legs or shoulders.

Graphic Approach that was the horse that went Awol on the course and ran through the running rails….Forgot about that..

I’ve got erics charm in a sweep…

ok they are puppets, but hey……..

~think lrish raptor
~think beat the boy
~think royal rosa

Good evening everyone
hope your all keeping well,be lucky for tomorrow .
take care

@kev34 wrote:

@Mick Fordham wrote:

Kev34 in 2007 Graphic Approach died, no horses died in 2004 & 2005 (don’t the years fly by).

1 horse has died each year from 2006 to 2009. 7 in total during the noughties

Like dodge said sadly that is the nature of the race (and agree with you all about PaulBrice58).

On wikipedia it states that 80 horses and 1 rider (in 1862) have died since it started in 1839. Most common cause broken legs or shoulders.

Graphic Approach that was the horse that went Awol on the course and ran through the running rails….Forgot about that..

Kev,

Great memory there, very impressed…….

I had forgot it had gone through the rails.

Had a fiver on the pubs sweep tonight….

Got the same horse as at work BallyHolland!!!!!

Oh well…

PaulBrice

More get killed in their boxes, on gallops, out in fields for the summer, the National is no more dangerous than any other race these days. They are fantastic, delicate but mostly mad creatures. My mate lost the best he ever had in a freak accident on gallops when she bolted, it happens. The rest of the time they are amongst the best trated animals on earth and anyone who’s been to a Lambourn open day will see that most people in racing love the horses…. so spare us the sanctimonious carp (sp)

I say paul brice = anti

BAN HIM””’

I lost on “The Package” again after it was beaten at cheltenham on the line 3 weeks ago. Dont think the commentary on bbc did it any favours at all but never mind. They went off on the first circuit way too fast ….. graham lee had the horse towards the back jumping well staying out of trouble , it made progress after the chair and was getting into the race just 6 or so lengths behind the eventual winner when it seemed to be hampered by the jockey unseating off Madison du Berlais at the 18th fence ~think Never mind, great race and really pleased for AP ….. best horse won as always ~clap ~clap

and all horses returned safe and well ! nice one ~clap

Dodge,

I lost on ‘The Package’ too….. 🙁

Like you said good race and pleased for AP as well.

Sorry about what I said as the other user I am against the Grand National but I was only joking about fishing, good look to all of you.

Well, that was a waste of money! £10 ew on a horse that couldn’t be arsed to run (King John’s Castle) and £30 on Arbour Supreme who fell so early I missed it! I should stick to playing poker! And I’ll know better in future than to follow tips on here 😉

As a matter of interest were any horses killed,I don’t want to go on about the rights and wrongs of it, just curious as I missed the news last night.