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13/02/2012 at 12:17 pm #50438
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantSomebody last week on here was on about adapting pull bungs so he could store some elastic, what about if you took this One stage further and have the pullbung made the central plunger thats a screw thread that passes through the body of the bung, you could tension your elastic with this too, soft set or pingy or give yourself an inch to fit a new conector, good idea or what ? Anthony
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13/02/2012 at 12:30 pm #155157
TF_Waveney OneWith the two hole pullers that Browning make and no doubt other companies as well, you can use the normal storer bungs to keep as much elastic as you wish on the pole. So I am not sure of the need Anthony.
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13/02/2012 at 12:34 pm #155158
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantA bung that would cost you a couple of quid could save you having to spend a 1000 quid on 10 new topkits, Need not have any hole(s) in your top kit, less is more in my opinion with any holes in your pole sections, some people have fitted bushes theirselves and are moaning the elastic comes off at a funny angle and works incorrectly, with this concept you dont need holes in your topkits or even need to buy new topkits.
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13/02/2012 at 1:12 pm #155155
TF_cafmattParticipantI made the post last week, because i thought a tackle compant would be making them by now. I have a DIY version of this already which is basically a standard stora bung, with an old cut off no.1 tip section aroldited into where the removal rod goes. you just pull the whole bung out and trap the elastic with your fingers.
I would like to replace the tip section with a plastic or similar to reduce weight in the topkit for fishing long
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13/02/2012 at 1:18 pm #155156
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantCaffmatt im thinking differently,Just use a pulla bung and take it One stage further have the rod that goes in the pulla bung threaded and you can just adjust your elastic via your pull bung instead of having a stora bung with a rod attached
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13/02/2012 at 2:10 pm #155152
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantMartin you would get 4 inch swing the way Im thinking its ok for your bung rod to be stuck out 4 inches to be honest mine do anyway, 3 or 4 inches play in the elastic will enable you to set your tension and give you enough to change a couple of connectors if needs be,how many time do you wish you could retension your elastic and you cant ????
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13/02/2012 at 2:28 pm #155153
TF_Rob ACould you chop the winder part off of a small bung and use that in place of the bead
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13/02/2012 at 2:43 pm #155415
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantRob A thats another option it would have to go inside your no 4 though, I think theres definetley room to improve the current pull bungs and my vision is to use same idea, just make the rod adjustable this will give clear advantages providing tensioning and spare elastic, im not keen on drilling kits or even buying new kits.
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13/02/2012 at 2:55 pm #155416
TF_Smedwould the 4inch either way (softer or tighter) really make that much differance?
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13/02/2012 at 3:12 pm #155417
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantSmed its the same as 4 unwinds on a stora bung ? to me thats a significant difference when setting your elastic, like I say it gives you enough leeway to change a connector too where the elastic has perished.
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13/02/2012 at 5:19 pm #155419
TF_Smedmmm maybe it would to you but to me 4 inch i reckon wont make it viable to be honest…
the whole idea of pull a bungs (to me) is to have a really soft set elastic at a lower rating than normal to eliminate bumped off fish, and then shorten it via the puller if you get a bonus one..so if i get this right, you fully unscrew the rod and elasticate your top….
when you get to the bank you have an option of winding the rod back in by 4 inch to slacken elastic by 4 inch…?
you dont have an option to tighten it as you set it fully out when you elasticate it…likewise if you set it fully in and elasticate it you have to option to tighten it 4 inch, but not slacken it?
so you set it in the middle and have 2 inch either way???
mmmmm
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13/02/2012 at 8:01 pm #155431
diddly-squattParticipantWhat I did was to bend some Aluminium wire into an S shape about 25mm long and wind the elastic around this and covered it with some thick diameter silicon tubing to protect it. I could then release or wind on some elastic to suit and it gives you something to grab hold of too.
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13/02/2012 at 8:35 pm #155435
TF_wangerThe browning and daiwa pullas are wank i have done this type for quite a few people and they say they are terrible when your pulling because you can not get a straight pull.you always seem to be fighting against the elastic to the bung.the idea of have a bung to tension and remove elastic to replace worn knots ect is good but the bigger picture is they are not as efficient as a single hole.
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13/02/2012 at 9:14 pm #155438
AnonymousAnthony, it’s not a new invention at all. I still have some with aluminium threaded rods in them (about 30cm) and they are years old. Problem was that even at 30cm it doesn’t make enough difference to the tension in use (but does allow a couple of re-ties).
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14/02/2012 at 10:17 am #154402
TF_Smedjust off topic slightly, ive been looking for some kind of bead to replace the orange puller bit that comes with the preston bungs…
i want a bead that i can open up and clamp onto the end of the elastic (with no damage) so i dont have to knot the end of my elastic. this would make it so easy to change elastics in a flash, and you could keep your elastics on winders with dacron connector allready attatched.
and you wouldnt need to carry 10 top kits with you!! i suppose you could also reclamp the bead further up the elastic to tighten it if you wanted to, allthough this would leave a tag end hanging down that you would have to feed into your no4… -
14/02/2012 at 12:31 pm #153637
TF_AnthonywatersParticipant@Smed wrote:
mmm maybe it would to you but to me 4 inch i reckon wont make it viable to be honest…
the whole idea of pull a bungs (to me) is to have a really soft set elastic at a lower rating than normal to eliminate bumped off fish, and then shorten it via the puller if you get a bonus one..so if i get this right, you fully unscrew the rod and elasticate your top….
when you get to the bank you have an option of winding the rod back in by 4 inch to slacken elastic by 4 inch…?
you dont have an option to tighten it as you set it fully out when you elasticate it…likewise if you set it fully in and elasticate it you have to option to tighten it 4 inch, but not slacken it?
so you set it in the middle and have 2 inch either way???
mmmmm
To summarise, you make the whole of the center rod screw threaded out of plastic on the pull bung the options are up to the individual, you could start with 4 or 5 inch hanging out of the pole and tension or slacken as required.
[*]Richbox wrote
Anthony, it’s not a new invention at all. I still have some with aluminium threaded rods in them (about 30cm) and they are years old. Problem was that even at 30cm it doesn’t make enough difference to the tension in use (but does allow a couple of re-ties).
Are we talking about the same aparatus here, a pullbung ?
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14/02/2012 at 1:11 pm #155453
AnonymousAnthony, yes exactly the same. Mine were made by an engineering friend who tapped the threads for me. Work well but not enough adjustment to make any difference. You’d need very long threaded rods. But, just enough to retie the connector end a couple of times.
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14/02/2012 at 2:17 pm #155454
TF_AnthonywatersParticipant@richox12 wrote:
Anthony, yes exactly the same. Mine were made by an engineering friend who tapped the threads for me. Work well but not enough adjustment to make any difference. You’d need very long threaded rods. But, just enough to retie the connector end a couple of times.
Looks like someone already had a go at these , how long are the threads on yours please , you say it doesnt make any difference but if you take a Preston pull bung,then make the rod 4 inch longer and threaded the thread being moulded into the plastic, that length of thread has to make a difference ? You say yours are aluminimum are they not very heavy as a result ? In fact to give us some idea of the Pull bungs your friend has made please upload a photograph of them, theres Several hundred reading this im sure people would love to see them. Thank Anthony
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15/02/2012 at 8:04 am #155505
AnonymousFirst samples were about 30cm but I then realised that was nowhere near long enough. So made some 45cm with the thread from the very top (the bit up inside the pole) down to the bung & below for 30cm. Even then with 15cm above & 15cm below the actual top or nose of the cone (which was threaded internallly) you only have 15cm of adjustment either way to tighten or slacken the elastic. Don’t forget even with this the cone itself was about 8cm and the joint clearance to next section 10cm which leaves 12cm out at the bottom. (15cm up from the cone, 8cm of cone, 10cm to miss the male joint plus 12cm sticking out = 45cm). So, actually you could only ever adjust 12cm maximum (slackening for a retie) as that was all that was sticking out and you wouldn’t want to do that otherwise you’d have nothing to grab hold of. So, actually something more like 55/60cm would be better as that gives you 37cm – 42cm of total adjustment.But then if you tighten the whole lot down you end up with 37cm – 42cm sticking out below which needs to be passed into the male joint of the next section.
It does work. But to make any noticeable difference when tightening you need a long threaded rod.
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15/02/2012 at 3:51 pm #155522
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantThanks for replies, roger Surgay if your reading this please make One and market it.
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21/06/2012 at 12:28 pm #159995
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantLooks like a big company have manufactured this idea and patented it, very good maybe they could send the real inventor a couple of freebies 🙂 my email adress is [email protected]
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