Flooding loss of fish stocks ! who is to blame?

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    • #56919

      TF_smeagal

        Here is my comment in the I O S .

        Jon Gratton 7 minutes ago
        Dredging will just move the problem downstream!!!!
        by deepening the canal yes it will increase the rate the water drains but with all the twists and turns all it will do is flood on the bends as as any fool knows you cannot compress water!
        So is there a solution?
        Yes but it will take years ans cost billions.
        you will have to build a new set of sluice controlled canals to run parallel to the river and have automatic pumps that are triggered when the level hit a predetermined height.
        Yes residents have a right to be angry but the butt stops with the government cuts!!
        Since 2010 they have cut staff and all the links with Universities have been lost as the water bailiffs have been slashed!
        In the time since this government has been in office we have read of millions to be invested in restoring waterway drains and canals but where has the money gone???
        Obviously not where it should yes the diversity of fish stocks and the biodiversity of what goes on under the surface is crucial but not to the extent undertaken over these last 3 years.
        Anglers pay millions into the pot to help keep the waters safe and clean but this is not matched by the companies who profit from it. that have earned billions over the last 3 years but no investment in storage tanks reservoirs or even maintenance on canals or drains!!
        This needs an in depth investigation and not a knee jerk reaction to a problem that has been getting worse over decades!
        [/b Am I right or wrong?? :confused: :confused:

      • #170627

        TF_Anthonywaters
        Participant

          I wrote a letter to the EA in 2001 when I lived in Tewkesbury in short I expressed my opinion”why not take some arable land close to the rivers and build ox bow lakes, dig them hundreds of feet deep they will take relief from the rivers” it seem to me the solutions are staring them in the face yet they do nothing to help, they want the insurance underwriters to foot the bill then everyone in the country suffers.

        • #170628

          TF_paulnewell

            IT will be a long list of small faults all coming together . Building on flood plains . The provision of minimal or cheapest drainage by independant developers and government projects . Extreme weather. Those old style cold winters slowed things up and in a big freeze the rivers had a chance to fine down . Underfunding of the EA is a gamble all polititions will try !! The Hoover dam in America was constructed after the crash and employed thousands of men and revived the country . Maybe resorvoirs dug in the worst affected areas and combining energy producing systems would be a solution . Also providing leisure amenities in tandem. There must be profit ? Because good or bad there are Hydro Electric schemes on the weirs on our rivers happening now .Pershore for example ??? 😮 😮 😮

          • #170651

            TF_smeagal

              This is not the true story!!!
              Anglers pay over £300.000 in licence fees and just recently the EA are trying to get Angling bodies to take over the maintenance with zero funding!
              What is not discussed is the lack of financial input from the water companies.
              They make billions of pounds each year but less than 1% is put back into resources and maintenance
              Now we are told there is no money???
              OFWAT must be given teeth and be allowed to bite the investors in the butt and make them pay at least 10 % 0f gross profit into the EA coffers.!

            • #175013

              TF_StephenH

                This is true. Climate change is emerging as the latest threat to the world’s fast declining fish stocks, which could affect millions of people who depend on the oceans for food and income, says a new report by the United Nations Environment Programme.

                The report, In Dead Water, says climate change may slow down the global flow of ocean currents, which flush and clean the continental shelves and are critical to maintaining water quality, nutrient cycling and the life-cycle patterns of fish and other marine life in more than 75 percent of the world’s fishing grounds.

              • #175015

                TF_Time Traveller

                  Privatisation – the Death Knell for investment – too many get rich quick schemes and do any of the Watchdogs have teeth….no

                  Consider…
                  Water
                  Electricity
                  Railways
                  Telecoms – especially mobile operators
                  Financial Services – Bankers brought the country to its’ knees but still no significant prosecutions………blah blah blah

                  Don’t think you will get any joy from EA or similar bodies at all? They raped the banks of our local river for 15 miles stripped it bare in the name of flood prevention….not a thought for fish or wildlife

                  For Global Warming substitute “Costs for the Punters”

                • #175017

                  TF_CriagH66

                    With reference to Anthony Waters idea of “oxbow lakes.”

                    Sorry mate this would not work. As the water table rises and the river rises the water level in the lakes rises too. There is no extra storage room. The lakes are always at the same level as the river regardless of whether normal or flood conditions.

                    Solutions need to be implemented well upstream in valleys of the smaller tributaries. Slowing the rate at which flood water reaches main river channels softens the curve on the hydrograph to produce less extreme but more prolonged flood events.
                    Unfortunately as Paul Newel comments, building on flood plains of the smaller streams creates rapid run off, especially with the new fashion of block paving and concreting every surface. Building on flood plains of major rivers is madness.
                    There are ways of combating the problem to an extent. Dredging main channels and building ever higher flood defences is not the solution. As quite rightly stated earlier, it just moves the problem downstream.

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