Angling Times and County Championships

[TF_Jabjab]

What do we all think then?

I hope it’s a success and that they find a sponsor for the whole thing.

Well done Angling Times!

~clap ~clap ~clap

[TF_joffmiester]

Leicester Sensas

the biggest event in match fishing
angling times unveils new county championship it will see every matchman in the uk awarded weekly points [bang goes team fishing then] for open matches they fish in turn this will lead to the publication of weekly county league table effectively ranking every match angler in his home region [so what if you can only fish one day a week] at the end of the league season [so its the whole season then] the top anglers in each division will compete in a fish-off to determine the five man county squad in turn they will all earn their prestigious county cap and represent their area in the £10,000 all england final
weekly points will automatically be awarded to the top eight finishers in every open event over 10 pegs
bigger matches the more points given [right-o] this bit is good as well only matches collected by angling times regional correspondents or those sent direct to the paper [in other words keep sending your results yourself] will count
the event sponsor,regional final venues, and the all england final are yet to be finalised [nothing changes there then]
league tables will appear in march 30th edition also features UK match a magazine dedicated to match angling [watchout matchfishing]
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[TF_Craftytafty]

For me it was good right up until they started talking about teams and representing my county and all England finals, which would probably entail trapsing round the country to crap venues where you’d probably catch s*d all.
I personally have no interest in team fishing ( the team matches I fish at Makins I fish no different to an open, if we do ok as a team, great, if not , tough!)

( Joff I know you love your team fishing and fair play to you cos you enjoy it but it is no more ( or less)important and carrys no more kudos than an individual who just wants to do their own thing)

If there’s a competition that will give me points with the chance of a prize at the end of the year, great, as long as I can continue to fish the venues I enjoy. (I have no interest in the Kamasan cos I won’t chase all over the place for matches big enough for points.)

I know that team fishing is having a few problems at present ( or that is the impression I get), so hopefully there is something that can be done to regenerate the interest for those who enjoy that aspect of fishing.

Perhaps it would be better to keep the team fishing and the individual side of things seperate.

[TF_Jabjab]

Joff, I assume team matches would still count for points just like they do for the Kamasan at the moment, and yes, for those of us that fish once a week it will be difficult. Sending results in is nothing unusual – perhaps it will make us all be more efficient as we want the points and to see our name in the paper!! ( I can see the list now, all 24 pages of it, ha-ha!!!!)

Crafty – I guess they will be inviting the top scoring anglers to a fish off as they know that many would be not interested in team fishing and wouldn’t want to, as you say, go trapsing around the country to crap venues. Fair play to you if that is not your scene, but you still have something to aim for at the end of the year.

I guess we will just have to see how it pans out.

[TF_Craftytafty]

Fair comment jabjab. It doesn’t mention anything about rewarding individuals, so ultimately it’s a team competition if you want to win anything.
I agree they should invite the anglers who want to fish the team side of things ( also they would do a better job than me cos I would just try and win the match lol)but maybe there could be something for the individuals too.

[TF_allyParticipant]

Not seen the paper but does this mean points go to anglers who live in a county, or fish venues in that county.

[TF_Rad]

~think why doesnt sky etc sponsor the england team or why isnt the england matchs televised i know id pay to watch them. ~clap ~clap

[TF_bremesParticipant]

Good idea in principle,but agree on jabjabs point,it is unfair to the anglers who can only get out at the w/e’s,just for an example just look at the midweek results for a fishery in north notts.

[DaveHarrellParticipant]

Joff…is there no full stop key on your keyboard? Thats one hell of a long sentence!

[Daddy BParticipant]

Sounds like a dream competiton for the retired / full time angler / “on the sick” contingent of the match fraternity.You could well end end with a team representing say Warwickshire, made up of a group of older lads who fish Tunnel Barn Farm 5 days a week.

[TF_wightangler]

moaning and decrying
before it’s started,
says it all….!

[TF_JMCLincoln]

The matches that will be included in the points system are weekend and bank holiday matches ONLY.

Weekday matches will not count unless they fall on a bank holiday, SORTED !!

[TF_Craftytafty]

fair point Jeff ( Bremes). Maybe it should be limited to one result a week although saying it’s a saturday disadvantages people who can only fish sundays and vice versa.
( sureley the Kamasan benefits those who can fish several times a week too)
Saying any one result a week leaves it open to abuse. Nominating your chosen weekday maybe but then that will bring it’s own problems. A lot of the options still benefit the anglers who can fish several times a week( of which I’m one)and also make the logistics of running it more comlplicated.

I still don’t think that something like this should combine Individuals and Teams.

Perhaps they could ask anglers to form their own teams of 5 and a league could be drawn up within the county. Each week the captain could submit the individuals’ chosen match prior to the weekend and then points gathered from the results( they wouldn’t have to fish the same matches)
Then at the end of the year or whenever the top team ( or maybe more if it’s a bigger league) could go through to the final.

In a seperate competition an individual could also submit his chosen match and then points allocated from the result and that could be a countrywide thing with it’s own rewards at the end.

Just some thoughts, probably full of pitfalls but just some food for thought.

[TF_joffmiester]

@DaveHarrell wrote:

Joff…is there no full stop key on your keyboard? Thats one hell of a long sentence!

once i get going thats it sorry dave~sick ~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_peter9000uk]

That’ll be fun trying to find opens in Surrey! Only one springs to mind is Wllinghurst

[TF_Pikey]

Don’t club matches count then ?

[TF_bremesParticipant]

I see where your coming from Crafty,but the kamasan is only based on w/e results or was the last time i heard.I think its a great idea personally,but i am glad i aint the one receiving all those results on the phone for each region lol.Personally i like the idea of lower match attendances getting points,at one stage anglers would cancel in high numbers on a fri/sat night if the magic kammy fig of 50 anglers would not be booked on,made it a nightmare for match organisers~naughty.

[Daddy BParticipant]

wightangler, as this is an open forum I am more than happy to decry the competition as it sounds utterly pointless to me, like most of what AT does these days, it being a shadow of the publication that saw me hardly miss an issue in 30 years until a few months ago.
You enjoy it though if it’s your bag.

[TF_Craftytafty]

Yeah, I think you’re right about the Kamasan on all points Jeff.

Potentially it is a good idea, time will tell and hopefully it will work. Fishing has changed with smaller matches tending to be the norm nowadays so that makes sense regarding the points. Although I’m not personally interested in the team side of it, I’m sure it will create a lot of interest

[TF_Hopper]

does anyone know how this county thing will work yet ?
is it the county your from or the county your fishing in ?

[TF_Dodge]

@joffmiester wrote:

@DaveHarrell wrote:

Joff…is there no full stop key on your keyboard? Thats one hell of a long sentence!

once i get going thats it sorry dave~sick ~sick ~sick ~sick

Joff,

Take a breath ffs !!!

PMSL

[Anonymous]

I reckon its about time the whole format for points based matches like the Kamasan needs urgently reviewing..I think its also about time mid week matches were taken into the equation as i find it totally unfair for anglers like myself who have to work a large number of weekends throughout the year.Why should people be disadvantaged due to their work commitments.
I also think that the threshold of 50 anglers minimum for a match to qualify for points needs looking at aswell.There is no reason why points cannot be allocated to smaller matches.Minimum requirement being say,something like 25 anglers where the winner gets 2 points and second placed angler receiving 1 point.It could then increase to 3 points for a 30 pegger and then 4 points for a 40 + pegger.
It needs to go with the times because matches have changed significantly since the introduction of the Kamsan table and its well overdue for a revamp in my opinion.

[lockie]

I totally agree with Daddy B on this i think its a load of crap. You will end up with 5 people consisting of lets say 3 club anglers who win there club match every week because its closed shop to anybody they think might beat them and a couple of old blokes who fish one venue four times a week and win when theres hardly anybody going there.
I reckon i could name the 5 best anglers in my county and i bet none of them qualify for the team thing.

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