Angling Trust General Election Campaign…

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

… not had a chnace to read this yet but will do – in the meamtime thought some of you might be interested….

ANGLING TRUST – FIGHTING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR FISHING

[TF_caster robParticipant]

“thought some of you might be interested….”

Yes, I’m interested.

I’m interested to know if it’s legally permissible for a private organisation to claim to represent me when I have chosen to have nothing to do with it whatsoever.

It’s like the RAC claiming to represent ALL motorists. They don’t. They represent their own members and no-one else.

[TF_Hillbilly]

Point taken Rob but is there anything that the AT have listed in their document that you would not like to see happen.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Hi Neil.

Obviously there’s nothing objectionable in the listed aims but I’d be surprised if there was.

It’s a bit pointless raising Common Fishery Policy issues for a GE campaign as that is an EU directive and would be better addressed to prospective MEPs, where 80% of our laws are now decreed.

As a professional organisation representing 3 million people I’d have expected the AT to be aware of this.

[TF_Paddy]

Hyper critical Rob?

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Possibly.

I’m just irritated by continually having to read how many millions of people this outfit pretends to represent when it has a membership of about 12,000 or so.

Doesn’t inspire a lot of “trust” as far as I’m concerned and I wish they’d stop this blatant deceit.

[TF_Paddy]

That aside, i actually think that the content and the way it is presented is very good – lets hope it drives the membership up to say errr…..3 million, then you may think about joining yourself???? lol.

[TF_Gary]

“…responsible for representing the nation’s 3 million anglers who contribute more than £3 billion to the UK economy…”

How did they come up with these numbers? And what do they mean by “contribute” to the UK economy?

[TF_proper tidal boy]

caster have you ever thought of standing in some form of position in A ngling trust as i think you would be a asset from a anglers point of view ????????

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Gary, I think the figures are arbitrary, I read 4 million anglers last year.

ptb – you looking for a wrap round?

[TF_daveroberts]

@Paddy wrote:

That aside, i actually think that the content and the way it is presented is very good – lets hope it drives the membership up to say errr…..3 million, then you may think about joining yourself???? lol.

That’ll be a cold day in Hell!!

[TF_Paddy]

@daveroberts wrote:

@Paddy wrote:

That aside, i actually think that the content and the way it is presented is very good – lets hope it drives the membership up to say errr…..3 million, then you may think about joining yourself???? lol.

That’ll be a cold day in Hell!!

He he he!

I actually thought PTB’s was better! ~clap

[TF_Gary]

@caster rob wrote:

Gary, I think the figures are arbitrary, I read 4 million anglers last year.

ptb – you looking for a wrap round?

That is what I suspect. I wonder if they are based on any science whatsoever, particular the £3bn economic impact?

[TF_proper tidal boy]

caster NO not a wrap round but a point of view which obviously didnt meet with your approval lol

[TF_wightangler]

well now the ‘usual’ are knocking the AT for announcing a strategy for doing something on issues that anglers have been going on about.
Some sad
negative XXXXX about!

[TF_2TSParticipant]

got to agree,for £20 quid its much better to be a positive —t.
regards 2TS
(Please refrain from swearing)

[TF_caster robParticipant]

@wightangler:

As one of the “usual” I’ll just reiterate that I couldn’t care less what strategies this company announces (it seems like they never materialise anyway) they can all stand in a field wearing paper hats if they want. Just dont pretend that I and approximately 3 million angling non-members are in any way “represented” by this.

@2TS:

Again, the £20 “value” claim.

The cost, as I’ve stated at least twenty times on this forum,is immaterial. If I wanted to be a member I’d pay the going rate, but I don’t wish to be involved. That must be easy enough to understand.

An observation on (swearing removed). It’s quite noticeable that positive ones tend to cause much more interference and disruption to other people’s lives than negative ones, often in the mistaken belief that they are doing them a favour or know what’s best for them.

[TF_clfletch]

Rob,
You seem to be constantly outraged by all sorts of things. Perhaps if you said something constructive you’d be a lot happier? Being the Victor Meldrew of Total Fishing can’t be doing you much good. You yourself say that you don’t object to the susbstance of the AT’s stance. Lighten up mate!

[TF_Gary]

Let’s just call it ‘professional scepticism’. I think all of the things it says on their website are potentially good ideas, but if I set up a website with lots of good ideas and a strategy for angling, would you all give me £20?

It never ceases to amaze me how many mugs there are out there, who fail to question or challenge anything they are told.

[glen worthingtonParticipant]

~think ~think ~think
I thought the name calling was supposed to have stopped ~shh ~shh ~shh
but once again it comes back in because the 3 million dont agree with twelve thousand,who to hear them, think their right ~sick ~naughty ~sick ~naughty ~sick ~naughty.
Pushing peas uphill with your nose comes to mind,now your 12,000 go and play with your AT train set and leave the grown ups alone ~clap ~clap ~clap

[TF_Paddy]

2TS & CR – Chaps, Come on, have a word with yourselves, debate and disagrement within the rules of the site are fine. Please leave the back handed name calling and swearing out of it.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Evening Pad.

If you take a closer look you may note that wightangler instigated the t”*t talk.

2TS & myself simply continued the conversation in the same manner.

Perhaps he ought to have a word with himself?

[TF_piperpilot]

To join or not to join is a personal choice and as such maybe we should leave the bullying to the incumbents at number 10,

[TF_2TSParticipant]

i apologise for repeating the swearword originally posted by wightangler
regards 2TS

[TF_piperpilot]

By any stretch of the imagination ‘Tango Whiskey Alpha Tango’ isn’t a swearword,

[TF_Paddy]

Rob, If i was to read every post of every thread, i would go bonkers! It’s easier to look at the swearing and those that are either doing it, or getting involved and repeating it and taking it from there.
I dont care who started it, or who followed – lets just not do it – it drags the site down and it is not necessary.

[deemanParticipant]

@Paddy wrote:

I dont care who started it, or who followed – lets just not do it – it drags the site down and it is not necessary.

here, here ~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap

Getting back to the original point, I can’t see anything regarding sea anglers having to start contributing to the EA as all course/game anglers do. Our inland and costal waters are looked after by the EA yet only anglers of inland waterways have to purchase a “rod licence” to enable us to pusue our sport/hobby. Isn’t it about time “all” anglers contributed

[fishfearmeParticipant]

I thought this post was going to be about the Angling Trust hierachy standing for re-election.
Guess not.
Had a look on the AT website.There was nothing on there about how they were elected, who they are etc.
Without causing to much of a ruckus, do the people who run the AT get a wage or are they volunteers?

[TF_piperpilot]

Don’t see why that question would cause any sort of Ruckus. Personally I think that all Officials!!! should have their wages and expenses available for members scrutiny,

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