AT County Points

[TF_Daiwa pro]

I went out and spent £1.80 on the AT, now the main reason i buy it these days is just for the county points, i like to see how everyone locally is doing (plus obviously myself). I cant get my head around why the points are never updated, they didnt even print the section last week so you would have thopught they would have caught up???. the majority of the matches are on the match pages but not on the points section~think ~think ~think weird

[TF_kid_a]

Match fishing and the organising of matches is nowhere near professional enough for an idea like this to work properly… It must be a logistical nightmare!

[TF_fisky]

Daiwa Pro…

The points are a week behind the results in the paper. This is because all the results are collated by AT’s regional correspondents on Sunday nights (an hour or so after they have happened). These are then phoned through to AT staff and inputed into the paper late on sunday night, before the paper goes immediately to be printed. It is then distributed around the country on Monday.

As I hope you can appreciate, updating the weekly points of 4,000+ anglers is a massive job and not one that can be done in an hour after putting in those results! Unlike a certain other weekly, AT staff come in on a sunday night (when everybody else is sitting down infront of the telly after their roast dinners) to ensure the match results are current for that week, and not a week behind!

All points are then updated, whether they appear in the paper or didn’t make it in because the match organiser didn’t phone them on time. The results tables may be missed out an odd week but there will always be something about the CC in.

This is the first year of the County Championship which is being voluntarily run in addition to our busy normal duties. AT has committed a large amount of money to the final to put back into match fishing, it costs nothing to enter and you are automatically entered if you fish a match. If the points take a week to be updated or there is the odd mis-result or name amongst the 4,000 odd match anglers involved, please bear with us!

The CC finishes in August. Please keep an eye on your name to see if you make it into the final 20 of your area and watch for instructions on what to do and where to go for the semi-finals.

Ben

[TF_joffmiester]

fisky you did take the competition on and you must of had a ruff estimate on numbers you also included club matches well basically every match its not just you that get the stick mate anglers fishing my matches are phoning me up and asking about there points its becoming a nightmare
you have to remember theses anglers never think about the organization that goe’s into this sort of competition its all about there points and thats a fact

you do need to review it mate before the real season starts ~sick ~sick ~sick and we all go mad

[TF_Wheely Crap Angler]

Ben I have a solution!!!!

Get all the moaners and detractors to give up Sunday evening and sit there and collate everything for you.I am sure they know how easy it is ~think ~think ~think ~think

[TF_fisky]

Joff it does not include club matches, only opens. If anglers think they have incorrect points, you should tell them to contact AT to put them right.
This is the first trial year of CC – it may change in the future i.e, times it’s fished between etc. But you say it needs a review now – what do you suggest??

[Nick D]

Why not put the points on a website too?!?!?!

[AlexParticipant]

I would imagine they dont put the points on a website because they are in the business of selling newspapers! Why should they go to the effort of organizing a nationwide competition and then publish it for free online because some people are too tight to buy the magazine?

[TF_carpmagicParticipant]

Good point Alex, as has been said it seems lots of people dont buy the paper yet constantly want to know about the UK champs. As for the formatt i would like to know what should be changed? I initially queried my points as i didnt know they were a week behind, i was quickly told this was the case though and that was that as far as i was concerned and my points were right the week after.

[TF_joffmiester]

@fisky wrote:

Joff it does not include club matches, only opens. If anglers think they have incorrect points, you should tell them to contact AT to put them right.
This is the first trial year of CC – it may change in the future i.e, times it’s fished between etc. But you say it needs a review now – what do you suggest??

SORRY mate around here we call a 10 to 20 peg matches club matches~sick
i have just looked at angling times this week and unforchantly the scores on the doors are two weeks behind
looks like i’m in for more ear bashing ~sick ~sick
one suggestion might be to tell the readers its up dated the following week or it take two weeks from the date of the result
my problem is i now email my results to AT as i then have a copy of the result so i can see if the angler who phones me is waitting for the up dates ie myself i have 10 points with another 12and a 14 to go on its not a big issue with me but towards the end of the competition your going to have a lot of anglers asking where the points are

[TF_fisky]

Funny that Joff, because everybody else’s points are only a week behind. If yours are two weeks, it’s because you’re sending your results in too late so they have to come in with the week after’s batch, Mr Wade has told me about you~think

Also it’s quite clearly printed every week (three times this week) that ‘all points from the weekend’s matches will appear in next week’s tables’ !!

[TF_fisky]

@joffmiester wrote:

i have just looked at angling times this week and unforchantly the scores on the doors are two weeks behind
looks like i’m in for more ear bashing ~sick ~sick
one suggestion might be to tell the readers its up dated the following week or it take two weeks from the date of the result
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Funny that Joff, because everybody else’s points are only a week behind. If yours are two weeks, it’s because you’re sending your results in too late so they have to come in with the week after’s batch, Mr Wade has told me about you ~think

Also it’s quite clearly printed every week (three times this week) that ‘all points from the weekend’s matches will appear in next week’s tables’ !!

[TF_joffmiester]

~sick ~sick ~sick YOUR NOT TAKING SIDES ARE YOU~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_kwadej]

Hi Joff,
I think we have been through all this before, its a matter of timing really.
Organisers have a match to run which finishes at shall we say 4.30 pm. Results by 6.30pm then a quick 5min call to A.T and its job done. You can relax with a beer or two while I slave over the computer for three hours!~clap ~clap ~clap
That way results will be bang up to date and the anglers that fish matches will not lagg behind.
We can only put in the ones that we have to hand, I think I sent in something like 35ish results last weekend. It is a bit of extra work for the organiser but it is for the rest of us too.
The only reason matches are going in the paper out of date is because we have not had them in by close of play on a Sunday night, unless its a special event.
(Or we have just made a simple mistake)
So Joff,
Top eight, with full names, teams, counties and weights, a good rundown of the match and what happened and we are up and running every Sunday night.simple!!~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think I know how much you like these little things!

[TF_joffmiester]

perhaps your right fisky i do email ken on a monday ~think ~think ~think

[TF_joffmiester]

OK OK OK OK OK OK i’l see what i can do buy the way its not me moaning
i’m just one of a dying breed that run matches which i did say i was not going to do this year Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[TF_joffmiester]

@kwadej wrote:

Hi Joff,
Ia quick 5min call to A.T
So Joff,
Top eight, with full names, teams, counties and weights, a good rundown of the match and what happened and we are up and running every Sunday night.simple!!~think ~think ~think ~think
~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think ~think I know how much you like these little things!

have you seen my write up it takes more than 5 mins ~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_kwadej]

Now Joff, lets get all this into perspective, I am not having a go at you, I have done the match running thing and know just where you are coming from.
As to your write ups it good to see that someone is as bad as me for spelling and fines it difficult to put a sentence together.
I have to say though, they are by far the best match reports I get in(On a MONDAY Morning)
Cheers
Ken

[TF_rocketFeeder]

Must be a nightmare collating the points, etc. I’ve been in touch with AT via email twice, and once on the phone as I’ve been missing points whilst others in the same match have had theirs allocated. Bought AT this morning and I’m no longer in the county league!!! I should be top of the league with double the points of second place… I can only assume it’s because they are sorting out my points and I’ve been removed whilst they do this. Will ring again in the morning to find out whats happening. I must say though, the county champs is a great idea ~clap

[TF_joffmiester]

@kwadej wrote:

Now Joff, lets get all this into perspective, I am not having a go at you, I have done the match running thing and know just where you are coming from.
As to your write ups it good to see that someone is as bad as me for spelling and fines it difficult to put a sentence together.
I have to say though, they are by far the best match reports I get in(On a MONDAY Morning)
Cheers
Ken

thanks ken~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap

[TF_justin case]

I reckon this County Champs is a brilliant idea and depite a few misplaced points and anglers in the wrong county its excellent for fishing, and im sure them parts will be ironed out next year.

Its an extremly brave guy that came up with this, the work involved has got to be immense.

But there are some key advantages I have noticed and not before time.

More match results are being published, you can see where all the names are going which means you can build up a good picture of whats going on in the world of competetive angling.

I have also noticed more people fishing untill the end of the match chasing the odd point rather than giving up once someone starts bagging. certainly in my area its putting people on the bank its given everyone a target to aim at.

briliiant idea and I would love to see this continue

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