Bubble method/slow sinking feeder would it work on Irish venues ?(Picture added)

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Ive heard of the bubble method before its basically a inline bubble float full of water fished like a kinda of slow sinking bomb for those who have never seen it. They were fishing it up a bank end yesterday and the ones who were on the pegs were catching well on it. I have never seen this method set up closely is it just as simple as an inline bubble float and a hairigged hooklength ? What are the do`s and dont`s when fishing this method.Also any info on a similiar method resin bomb would be appreciated I can see resin slow sinking bombs being a very big method shortly.Also would a slow sinking type of feeder work on Irish venues ?

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

176 views and no feed back ! wow

[TF_JohnH]

I have seen it used at Lakeside Ranskill on noted chub pegs. The bubble is basically a slow sinking feeder which can be filled with maggots and drawn through the swim with the rod set to one side waiting for the tip to rip around.I think its used also on other South Yorkshire lakes such as Loxley and Howbrook. I am not surprised no ones posted, its the most secretive method out there and on its day can outfish most other methods.
The particular day I mentioned on Ranskill the user refused to divulge any information.
I dont fish on venues its used but am aware of how good it can be.

[area39Participant]

Hi mate

drop me a pm and I’ll scan the Improve Your Coarse Fishing article I featured in at Loxley fishery last year if it helps.

Full bubble/pulla method explained

Jon

[WATBLADE]

ANTHONY ?
FOX BOLT BUBBLES OR INLINE.COMPRISES BUBBLE FLOATS WITH MATCHING SLEEVES, SWIVELS & A FEW ASSORTED BAIT BANDS FOR PELLET/BISCUIT ON HAIR RIGS FOR PRESENTATION.THE BUBBLE FLOATS HAVE 2 LITTLE GROMMITS WHICH OPEN TO ALLOW FILLING WITH THE DESIRED AMOUNT OF WATER (DEPENDS ON YOUR RANGE) AND ALSO PRODUCES A SEMI-FIXED “BOLT” EFFECT FOR YOUR SURFACE RIG OR CAN BE USED FOR ZIG RIG HAS THE BUBBLE SINKS.A HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMON CONTOLLER FLOAT TACTICS WHERE THERE IS NO RESISTANCE.ALTHOUGH NOT USED IT MY SELF, I SAT AND WATCHED A MATE USE THEM LAST SUMMER.

[TF_raver]

seen the puller used at Howbrook & when its working its a devastating method, i tried it & couldn’t get a bite, whilst others bagged up on bream !!

As John H has said it’s a very secreative method that seems to of only been masterd by a few. i enquired about method but was met with a cheeky smile & silence by someone who seemed to always do well on it.

[TF_mannymaggot]

Could someone please explain this method to me as i think a guy who i fish matches against is using a similar method.Last season he cleared up winning eight out of ten matches.He seems to use a light feeder which seems to be wraped with foam and electical tape.When it hits the water it is more like a plop than a splash and i notice he uses a very long hooklength 4ft.Before the match he pours warm water out of a flask and covers his maggots with clingfilm this seems to make them float.I notice he dosnt tighten up and waits for the tip to register.I think he is letting the bait drop through his swim slowly and waiting for a take on the drop.Without tightining up there is no resistance so the Bream take the floating maggots more confidently.I also suspect this as last season he was catching a lot of ducks in matches that were diving under and taking the maggots.What do you think guys. ~think ~think ~think

[TF_matt rosevear]

i think the puller is diferent to what they use at bank end.
the puler is a kind of stick float set up wherere you pull the line and feel the bite on the drop rather than watch the float
the bubble is like an overloaded bublefloat that sinks very slowley fished on the tip and bites cum on the drop
hope that helps

[TF_JohnH]

Based on my observations as I am no expert on these techniques I think the puller is a basic waggler set up at depth with litte or no shot down the line. The float is not fixed it can slide up the line but does have a shot to stop it sliding under depth if you follow me.
Loose fed maggot is sprayed on the feed line and the float cast over it. The line is then pulled very slowly so the float tracks back towards the angler, the float is held against the shot but when a fish takes it pulls on the line and feels no resistance from the float as it slides.A bit like a fly angler pulls on a sunken leader.
The bubble is a variation on this using the float as a sort of feeder by filling it with maggot. The bubble has holes in to allow the bait to slowly escape. The feeder is critically balanced to sink very slowly. Again its a bit like floating pole or using sunken floats and hooking fish on elastic the fish feels little resistance and the hook can be set before the fish realises and ejects the bait.
I dont know where these floats can be bought or how to make them but it is a very secretive method and not used extensively where I fish but I have see it used.
I think its sucess is because it can be fished at all depths and is something different that fools the fish.

[TF_matt rosevear]

the first bubles used at bank end where display grapes (the 1ns you get on displays at fishmongers/veg shops ect)with just the rite amount of water and a swivel glued in to make it just sink,but i beleave it has evolved a bit since then

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Thanks for the feedback

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Matt am i right in thinking you was the one who invested slow sinking bubble method ?

[TF_fourcanals]

The man who is the one with the method worked o.ut Name Tony Wills lives breaths the bubble meathod put me onto it this time last year, what a method I regularly could catch ide at aston when the wind was favorable but loose them after 2 hours no amount of feed alteration would bring em back.. Gave one to my mate to try at bank end, he started on p wag said he had 3 in about 1 1/2 hours put my bubble on and he said he has not had a day like it for years he is a pretty useful angler and was amazed on how its different presentation made that much difference. My take on this is that like all other methods its devastating on its day, but not all things to all men

[TF_jono]

wasnt something like this used at damflask res (sheffield) years ago to catch the big roach?

[TF_SteveMay]

Been fishing it for years, use the bubble float as an inline bomb. Vary the hook length to suit bites and species. I use a shot or two next to the bubble to get the sink rate right.
Never realised it was a secret LOL.

[TF_matt rosevear]

@Anthonywaters wrote:

Matt am i right in thinking you was the one who invested slow sinking bubble method ?

ive never fished it m8 but a m8 of mine was fishing bank end wen it was first been used

[TF_fourcanals]

yes jono it was used first at the flask Tony Wills had watchers with binoculars, and stood in Dawsons tackle shop on holme lane to see if he was using any different maggotts Jim Baxter to this day still thinks Tony had further info that he has never divulged.I Think the man had total confidence in the method and worked at the presentation as is with all methods .

[TF_neil g]

The bubbles which are being fished at Bankend are mainly bought from my shop only 2 miles away from Bankend .
We had 5 people here last week and bought 20 egg shape bubbles off me and stated they were bagging on the deep water at bankend.
They all bought the smaller ones,they are has stated small clear bubbles with 2 gromitts and a swivel attachment on both ends which they fill with water .

Hope this helps

Neil

[TF_mannymaggot]

Hi when you say deep water how deep do you think this method would produce?

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

From what I understand Its suited to 8ft plus depth of water I wouldnt see any point using it in less than that. I think a slow falling feeder is the answer for alot of Irish venues whats everyone else think them bream hang around at mid depth ?

[TF_mannymaggot]

How would you use a slow sinking feeder this way. would you just take the weight off and use a long hooklengh,also how would you be able to tighten up when the weight is removed i fish in waters that are at least forty foot deep.

[TF_dunno]

I have a lovely lake in Co Cavan which is generally 6ft deep and i reckon the method will work for hybrids.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Maggot you will need to wrap some regular feeders with pipe lagging foam and tape them, Im going to make some but im going to put pole doctor sleeves over the foam to make a neat and tidy job.Dunno i think this will be a killer method for Irish venues them fish sit above the swan mussels as you know.

[TF_mannymaggot]

Thanks Anthony as i said before the guy winning all the matches at our lakes seems to be using this method he uses a slow sinking feeder that makes a plop instead of a splash he also uses a very long hook length uses maggot that have been scalded in water to make them float and he seems to use a hell of a lot of casters blocked at each end of the feeder with green swimstrim.Would you tighten up or just watch the line to see a take.Ishould imagine the bites will be pretty agresive as there wont be much resistance to the fish

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

I wouldnt tighten up too much but I wouldnt take too much weight off the feeders when you make them the weight will keep the line tight

[pullabung]

i have experimented with a drennan maggot feeder by removing the weight at the bottom (the ones which clip on and off) and cutting out two slits between the holes to allow the maggots to wash through when it sinks, then i nip either 1 or 2 number 4 shot to the bottom holes (half in and half out of the feeder) depending on the wind and tow, using a long hooklenghth.

i have only tried this in the winter when its been hard but will be giving it a bash again now the fish are having a chomp.

hope this helps.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Got my feeders made just need a few more degrees before i test em its still winter here, I heard vaselening your hooklength is the trick too.

[TF_mannymaggot]

How did you make them in the end Anthony?Any chance of posting a photo. Ian

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Simple Mannymaggot grey pipe foam lagging wrapped around a drennan cage feeder, You need to work out the required ammount of foam you need for a slow fall and dont forget your adding bait too the feeder wrapped with foam needs to take on a very slow fall but obviously make sure it does sink ! You can practise getting the right ammount of foam by initially tying the foam around the feeder with cotton then when you have the right ammount of foam sleeve it with a pole doctor sleeve and kettle steam then bingo.When i have more time i will put pics on.

[TF_mannymaggot]

Cheers Anthony ill have a go at making some this weekend as the weather here in Blackpool is still like winter too.ASsaid before im going to use a long hooklength maybe 4-5ft and also try the vaseline too.Ian.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Picture of slow sinking meat/pellet feeder. Slide the toolbar at the bottom of the page to scroll along.

[TF_mannymaggot]

Oh mate you wouldnt believe how much this looks like the feeder the guy in our matches is using and clearing up with every week. Cant wait for the weather to warm up and get out there.Cheers let me know how you get on .Ian.~clap ~clap

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Anyone fishing the Irish festivals soon should consider having a spare rod with this set up I think it would winkle a few more fish out of a swim on a match.

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