carp on the deck

[TF_swingtipbry]

just out of interest when fishing for carp down the track when conditions are right do you go dead depth or do you think overdepth is better on the pole

[TF_stewan]

For me it depends on the bait. dead depth for pellets ,meat, worm, corn over depth.

[TF_swingtipbry]

thanks for the reply stewan
what makes you go over depth when fishing corn
i have always fished dead depth with most baits but on the deck i think most carp will upturn slightly so a overdepth rig must work better

[TF_cormorant]

swingtipbry,

i dont do much pole fishing anymore, too old at 76 and with a bad back, but when waggler fishing sweetcorn i generally start at dead depth and if no joy go 3, then 6 and then 9 inches overdepth.

if there is still no joy and i am often bringing bits of debris back on the hook i add a grain of pop-up or atificial corn to the real grain to keep it on top of any rubbish on the deck.

hope this helps,

cormorant.

[Anonymous]

Going over depth can give a few advantages over fishing dead depth depending on conditions and the way the fish are feeding. Setting your rig up to fish over depth makes the rig what is named as a positive rig because the fish are able to picked up the hook bait up and start to move away before the float goes under. This generally means you hook most bites and you get a good hook hold in the inside of the carps mouth.

Your likely to be able to reduce the number of line bites by fishing over depth and waiting for positive go under bites.

The down side of fishing over depth is that you might not see many real bites. The carp can pick up a hook bait and then reject it before you see the bite on your float. One of the problems in this situation is that you might then still have your float going under because carp often reject a hook bait and blow it out at a very high speed. This can be very frustraiting and confussing if your getting what seem like good bites while fishing over depth but your missing almost every bite or foul hooking lots of carp.

In very difficult conditions. Fishing over depth can help with controlling the rig. There are days when the carp want a hook bait kept totally still once its on the deck.

Its all about trying different depths and attempting to work out what shows up every bite but also gives you the best bite to hooking fish and landing them ratio. Thats not easy to work out and often changes depending on how your feeding and the number of fish in your swim. The weather conditions also change which can often result in the way the rig acts and the way the fish feed. So, its a never ending search for the best depth for whats going on and what you are doing or attempting to do. Its difficult to fully explain and easier to show on the bank while fishing. So, hope you get what im suggesting?

There are days when dead depth is best because you see every movement of the hook bait. The biggest issue with this approach is that you also see every movement on the rest of the rig. This can result in lots of problems with line bites and foul hooking carp. This is especially the case with heavy hook baits like corn, meat, big pellets and paste. To some extent, this is why you can get away with using small expander pellets as hook bait because they are so light that the hook bait will be able to waft in the water as a carp touches the line without dragging the float under. The float in his situation only goes under when a carp sucks in the hook bait and gives a positive bite. Seeing every time that your hook bait is picked up by a carp and not having issues with line bites can be a big advantage especially when your looking to catch lots of small carp to put a big match winning weight together. Its a big part of why expander pellets are so good on many commercial carp venues.

Often, you will read in the angling press that fishing half the length of the float over depth is ideal in most situations. The reason for this suggestion is that it is both a positive approach but does show up bites relatively quickly once the hook bait has been picked up by a carp. Its a good starting point in most situations and is especially so for anglers who have little experience of finding the right depth on any given day depending on the mood of the carp and the weather conditions.

For those with a bit more experience. Changing depth and working out what is the best depth for that day can be the difference between catching a few or winning your match. It can also make the difference between having a frustriating day with lots of missed bites or foul hooked carp or hooking almost every bite and landing every carp that you hook.

The best match anglers make the least mistakes imho. Finding the right depth to set your rig when fishing on the deck goes a very long way to reducing the number of mistakes anglers make.

[TF_swingtipbry]

thanks cormorant had a lot of back problems myself
Trueblue thanks for a top post again your right the feeding is always changing

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