up and down mate, depending on how many are on it, pellet short, maggot and caster long, and uitw.crucians and skimmers close, ide and bigger skimmers long. drip in bait on both, odd carp to be had on corn in the margins, but not worth targetting in a match as they arent much bigger than the standard fish, and take a lot more time to catch, and fight a lot harder. feed fishery micros, use 4mm fishery expanders for hook witha fine fishmeal gbait feeding v little v often with a fruit shoot sized pole pot. dont muck about with dropper, dot your float with a single bulk about 5-6″ from the hook