Depends on the size of fish im expecting to catch and the size of bait im expecting to use. For me 175s are the best carp paste hook. I use 808s on venues where i expect F1s and small stockies. I use hooks in size 20s-12s for paste. Size 16s and 14s are my most often used paste hook on venues with a mix of different sizes of carp and F1s. Im happy that i can land some very big carp on a size 2 (16) 175 but im also able to use a small ball of paste if thats what the fish want. The same sized hook is still ok for a very large ball of paste. If thats what the fish are feeding best on.