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    • #55008

      TF_paulnewell

        Talk about a lack of basic integrity . fishery boss has sold a match man bags of white breadcrumb. After banning the bait with allegations of harm to the fish and all the other shite.

      • #166802

        TF_Anthonywaters
        Participant

          A lot of fishery ownersworkers want to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds

        • #166804

          TF_cormorant

            paul newell,

            but did he buy them to use on that lake or for use elsewhere?

            a local lake owner /tackle shop sells halibut pellets that are banned on his lake, so what! if they are to be used elsewhere then good luck to the seller, i say. he has a business to run at a profit…..so please, carry on.

            cormorant

          • #166805

            TF_ziggy169

              @cormorant wrote:

              paul newell,

              but did he buy them to use on that lake or for use elsewhere?

              a local lake owner /tackle shop sells halibut pellets that are banned on his lake, so what! if they are to be used elsewhere then good luck to the seller, i say. he has a business to run at a profit…..so please, carry on.

              cormorant

              So he believes they’re not good enough, or they’re harmful to use on his fishery, but he’s happy to supply them at a profit for people to use on other fisheries? Hardly ethical is it?

            • #166822

              TF_cormorant

                what have ethics got to do with it?

                the man is in business and the whole aim of a business is to make profit.

                you know when you go there that you cannot user certain baits etc. and therefore have the choice, walk or talk…….

                cormorant

              • #166826

                TF_ziggy169

                  The ethics are, he obviously believes the product is detrimental to his fishery and therefore his livelihood so will not allow it to be used. Which is his choice.

                  But he’s happy to make money selling what he believes to be a potentially damaging product to anglers to use on his competitors waters. But you believe that to be okay as he’s a business man and it’s all about the profit! Amazing.

                • #166840

                  TF_scarf

                    @ziggy169 wrote:

                    The ethics are, he obviously believes the product is detrimental to his fishery and therefore his livelihood so will not allow it to be used. Which is his choice.

                    But he’s happy to make money selling what he believes to be a potentially damaging product to anglers to use on his competitors waters. But you believe that to be okay as he’s a business man and it’s all about the profit! Amazing.

                    Well, I’m incredulous that you find it amazing that a tackle shop sells tackle and baits. I presume you think he shouldn’t sell barbed hooks to river anglers, or pike rods or sea tackle. How unethical would that be, eh?

                  • #166843

                    TF_iansi01354

                      White breadcrumb harms fish?…………hmmm……was that really the reason?

                      Probably sells other pellets too but insists on fishery own…..it’s a tackle shop first and foremost I have no issue with selling white breadcrumb.

                      He can ban what he likes its his fishery I suppose but was the reason really that’s its harmful to fish?

                    • #166845

                      TF_CriagH66

                        All and any bait can become detrimental to the health of a fishery and the fish when used to excess especially meat and I strongly suspect bread. EXCESS is the key word here.
                        20 match anglers using 6 loaves of white bread each per match would soon have an effect.
                        I think the original post concerned an altogether different bait. Sour Grapes.
                        If a fishery owner has invested in lakes and stock, it is quite simply his right to lay down the laws. If same fishery owner chooses to run a tackle shop to compliment the fishery business then all the best to them. i believe they also sell pellet wagglers and bagging wagglers in the shop that are never used on a snake lake venue.
                        From my experience of the fishery in question the list of rules is more reasonable than most. Can’t understand what all the fuss is about.

                      • #166847

                        Anonymous

                          I own my own fishery that has a shop on it, and yes it does sell things that I dont allow .. but I cant see how thats a problem or makes me a hypocrite
                          I set rules on my fishery on what I feel is best for the fish, but that doesnt give me entitlement to tell other fishery owners (or the EA when it comes to rivers) how they should run theirs
                          So, if a guy comes to my fishery and pops in the shop, its quite reasonable for them to pick up some bits for their trip to the river or another fishery while they’re their. And therefore its quite reasonable that I have bait and tackle in the shop that they may use. The EA deems barbed hooks OK on rivers, I dont want them on my lakes, does this mean I should lose an income stream in my shop selling barbed hooks to anglers that may well fish the river next week??
                          Cant see the issue myself at all

                        • #166849

                          TF_the margin gnome

                            Never mind bread are sour grapes banned? From what i read on the website it clearly stated that bread fishing was reducing the other anglers enjoyment of the venue and that attendances had dropped as a result. The business owner decided bread was to be banned for a year to see if those anglers returned. Fair play. You only live once. Enjoy your fishing whatever the bans.

                          • #166855

                            Anonymous

                              This is disgraceful

                            • #166857

                              TF_iansi01354

                                @sumo wrote:

                                This is disgraceful

                                Which bit Sumo?

                              • #166859

                                Anonymous

                                  The fact that the owner believes it harms fish but is prepared to sell it is immoral , it’s just the same as a drug dealer selling crack to kids as I said disgraceful .

                                • #166861

                                  TF_Pikey

                                    The initial post wont have been started cos the poster has been banned by the fishery would it ? 😮

                                  • #166862

                                    TF_drawnaflier

                                      I was led to believe that it was the use of large amounts of ” mashed ” bread that was the problem , and I cant understand why that should be ” banned ” yet certain regulars are allowed to use just as large amounts of ” SLOP ” . Whats the difference ?????????

                                    • #166863

                                      TF_Anthonywaters
                                      Participant

                                        It seems like a logical rule to implement restrictions on excessive bait use, it would appear unfair if an individual has been banned and then somone else can use the same method. I must admit you get certain venues where the ” pond police” do your head.

                                      • #166864

                                        TF_TIDALWAVE1

                                          Bait limits are always better than bait bans in my opinion.

                                        • #166865

                                          TF_paulnewell

                                            Lets draw a line on this sorry saga and bag up Sunday. Good news,, i am getting to grip with rod and line fishing again May even try a river again.No crap bait bans I hope,.!’m. 😮 😮 😮

                                          • #166886

                                            Anonymous

                                              I would be interested to know what the NFA have got to say about this

                                            • #166887

                                              TF_iansi01354

                                                @sumo wrote:

                                                I would be interested to know what the NFA have got to say about this

                                                NFA saying something about white breadcrumbs being banned!……….now that made me giggle!!

                                              • #166908

                                                Anonymous

                                                  Why is that funny the NFA is hear to protect fish and breadcrumbs obviously effect fish otherwise Paul wouldn’t, have been banned for harming fish with the breadcrumbs , if the NFA focused on ensuring that anglers don’t harm fish that would protect all anglers pastimes

                                                • #166910

                                                  TF_Kagger TNB

                                                    I think you’ll find that the NFA ceased to exist about five years ago.

                                                    Keep up chaps…

                                                  • #166911

                                                    Anonymous

                                                      Not surprised if they can’t sort a little issue like that out , what are the NRA going to do about it then

                                                    • #166914

                                                      TF_Kagger TNB

                                                        Lol

                                                      • #166781

                                                        TF_Tim_D

                                                          National Retards Association…. Are you a member sumo?

                                                        • #166896

                                                          TF_stonecold

                                                            What a sour grape thread 🙂

                                                          • #166935

                                                            TF_paulnewell

                                                              Read and fully understand the post. ! It is not sour grapes . After all the reasoning behind the ban the bags of crumb where sold to an open angler on the fishery. After the said ban date . ???? By the top jolly to man who used it same day. Bread in the fancy bags sold on the shelves is also present to various degrees . Only difference is dye and smell . Tallking of smell lets end this post and get some new thoughts . This one ain’t changing with our views ! GONE. FISHING. :p :p :p

                                                            • #166936

                                                              Anonymous

                                                                @Tim_D wrote:

                                                                National Retards Association…. Are you a member sumo?

                                                                Not Really Armpit at you

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