matchfishing magazine?

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

have any of you NON subscribers managed to get hold of a copy today?
tried loads of different shops but non round our way have it?????

[TF_Oggy]

I’ve tried a few shops round here this evening and no joy.

[TF_april9092Participant]

same here tried various shops in chesterfield, Derbyshire area and could not get hold of it.
Only buy it for Stan Piecha article best thing they have done.
Worst is making the competitions phone based and being charged for it.

[TF_wightangler]

an excellent issue & loads of good articles this month- worth waiting for. Even right wing ‘sun’ Piecha whose ‘articles’ i normally find offensive & detest, is interesting this issue.

[TF_youngy]

Anyone who writes for the scum is a tw*t in my book.

[TF_april9092Participant]

A bit harsh. It is still not in the shops today Saturday, I only like the Stan Piecha column has it makes me laugh like the magazine used to years ago with Chris Love and a few others.
I would like to see a few features on our rivers with up to date information on fishing prices access or a complete breakdown of the lets say the river trent broken down into sections or the river severn or any river so you could cut it out and explore some of the forgotton parts of our weonderful countryside. I am up for it if you are Dave Harrell.

[TF_joffmiester]

@youngy wrote:

Anyone who writes for the scum is a tw*t in my book.

he dosen’t anymore ~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_Man of Kent]

as a subscriber, I’m disappointed not to have received my copy yet, especially as I’m out of action with a broken wrist since Monday. I could really have done with it to while away the time in hospital.

[TF_Vince8]

Got mine a week ago, impressed with improved early posting.

[TF_lloydy1970]

@wightangler wrote:

an excellent issue & loads of good articles this month- worth waiting for. Even right wing ‘sun’ Piecha whose ‘articles’ i normally find offensive & detest, is interesting this issue.

Like stan anyway but even more now i know he’s a tory

[TF_Waveney One]

The story I heard about how Stan got to be the F1 correspondent for the Sun is the following:

He was the Angling Correspondent producing a once a week article. Stan was in the general office handing in his script for the week when the Sports Editor stormed into the open office asking if anyone had a passport. Stan shouted out that he had and was taken outside by the Sports Editor. It appears that for some reason the F1 correspondent who had been in the job for a while was unable to go to cover the Brazilian Grand Prix. Stan was on the next plane out to Rio and kept the job for a long while.

I bet he was brilliant at drawing pegs as well!

[TF_april9092Participant]

His reports where brilliant and yes was and probably is still good at drawing not as good as the match fishing team though.
I am sure Jon Arthur is Dave Harrell love child he his as good as him in the drawing stakes

[tunnel topper]

cannot find one in sunny sheff.
mrs went to york yesterday and could not find one up there.

hope the wrist is feeling better MofK.

[TF_april9092Participant]

Its us northerners again they only think they need it for the softly southerners and midlanders where men are born but turn into babies.

[TF_MarkT]

Had main more than a week now, good read as always.

[TF_Gavin]

No sign of it in my local shops.

[TF_feeder]

april its because us softies darf sarf can read as well as look at the pics.lol

[TF_april9092Participant]

I thought you just looked at the pictures as most great articles written by us northerners.

Have a good bank holiday.

[TF_The Brewer]

No where to be found in Worcester ~think

[TF_Serious Sam]

They seem to go through this every 3 or 4 months – pain in the ass and there were months when I never found it in the shops.

The direct debit subscription is very cheap and well worth doing.

[TF_Gavin]

I used to do that, but got fed up of chasing copies that never arrived too!

[TF_feeder]

DH where are you ????

[TF_Serious Sam]

@GavinG wrote:

I used to do that, but got fed up of chasing copies that never arrived too!

Yup, have been subscribed to both match fishing and pole fishing for about 5 months and in that time one of each hasn’t arrived.

Give them their due though, each time just gave them a call and another copy was here 2 days later.

Don’t know why they seem to have such problems with distribution, have bought mags of all kinds over the years some of them pretty obscure and never had this problem with any of them.

[TF_pr@ngler]

Best solution of all is not to buy either match fishing or APF.

I subscribed to both for over 10 years. I’ve given up both and have the money to spend on better things. Best part of it all is that I catch more fish.

I used to think journalists were the laziest profession on earth. Now I realise that not all journalists are the same.

Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . .

[TF_MarkT]

@pr@ngler wrote:

Best solution of all is not to buy either match fishing or APF.

I subscribed to both for over 10 years. I’ve given up both and have the money to spend on better things. Best part of it all is that I catch more fish.

I used to think journalists were the laziest profession on earth. Now I realise that not all journalists are the same.

Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . .

Thats abit strong aint it!!

I think the lads at both magazines do a good job, they can’t keep everyone happy. To be fair both magazines have improved over the last couple of years. In the five months i’ve had a subsription i’ve not yet had a late issue either.

[DaveHarrellParticipant]

I can only apologise for the distribution problem which is totally out of our hands. I have been assured that the magazine will be available in next few days.
And pr@ngler, if you actually knew how much hard work goes into producing all of the magazines at DHP you wouldnt come out with such utter crap. All of the staff from every magazine work their balls off to produce consistently good magazines that an awful lot of people enjoy. Your comments are out of order as I’m sure many anglers who appreciate the hard work we all put in will agree. Good luck in the World Championship, hope you win.

[TF_scarf]

“Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . “

A mean, nasty and just plain wrong comment pr@ngler, for which you should apologise, or justify, now you’re sober. If you really are a university teacher, is there such a thing?, I’m so glad you didn’t teach my kids.

[TF_LouiseWincott]

Match Fishing should be on sale nationally from today. Some areas will have received copies over the weekend.

Our previous distributor went into administration a week ago and it took some time for our new distributors to pick up the reins.

Those of you that have been into newsagents looking for your monthly fix may have noticed other gaps on the shelves. We will survive the distributor going bust but some publishers will not. I have heard horror stories of weekly magazines (not in the angling sector) being stuck in warehouses for two weeks!
I hope this explains the situation and also explains why subscribers got their copies as normal.

Sorry for any inconvenience and just glad to still have a job!

Regards

Roger Mortimer using Louise’ log in!

[TF_Gavin]

I think slagging the mags is a bit strong. I stopped buying Pole Fishing mag long before the name change. Bored a few months ago waiting about for the other half I picked a copy up and under Jon Arthur I think the mag has improved markedly! So much that I’ve picked up a few copies since!

Thanks for clearing the issue up Roger, I may take a wander later to pick my copy up, as I missed my Saturday fix of the mag even more with no footie on at the mo!

[TF_april9092Participant]

Got my copy today in dronfield derbyshire, not south yorkshire. May start to subscribe again it has improved

[TF_yorkshire]

i wonder what the distribution cost is, or price per magazine, quite a big job delivering the mag?

I normally comment on content and will make comments once i have read it, was available from today in most areas.

cover price of £3.50 is a bit strong, just noticed this Cheapest option – £3 for three issues followed by Direct Debit payment. Total price for the first 12 issues is £26 odd. Includes 12 mags delivered to your door. Only available for postal applications because of the Direct Debit forms.

which is very very good value, even with the rotton plugging of brands is still a good buy at this level, delivered to your door!!!

[MrFoxman]

You can see how much time and effort is put into these magazines and so there is no reason to be so aggressive. Keep up the good work guys.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

i managed to get a copy todey,, “phew”!

as a none smoker, i can only imagine thats how it feels when you got no fags!
LOL!
I was beginning to wonder what i was gunna do when i was sciving at work!~sick

[TF_yorkshire]

droped mine in the bath last night, when i fell asleep, now looks like a copy of “club international” from my teenage years ~sick

[TF_Jon W]

@yorkshire wrote:

droped mine in the bath last night, when i fell asleep, now looks like a copy of “club international” from my teenage years ~sick

PMSL.

I haven’t been able to put the latest issue of MF down the last few evenings. A great issue. Well done lads.

J

[TF_Tim_D]

@Jon W wrote:

@yorkshire wrote:

droped mine in the bath last night, when i fell asleep, now looks like a copy of “club international” from my teenage years ~sick

PMSL.

I haven’t been able to put the latest issue of MF down the last few evenings. A great issue. Well done lads.

J

What more could you possibly need to learn leg end?

I’ve been subscribed for the last 3 years and i’ve never missed out on a copy!!

[TF_Jon W]

I could still learn plenty off you Timbo!

[TF_skimmer_roo]

i was at westwood lakes last week for a short break, whom should poll up but jon arthur and his appentice tom scholey!!
They were there doing a feature for pole fishing mag and having the £1 bet which they have!, and up and till 4pm they hadnt stopped taking differant photos of the two of the venues locals, so i seen just how much work goes in to the features in the mags, i left to go out for tea, at 7.40 and they were still there!

i think jon won the £1 as he was catch some big barble!

thanks jon and tom for letting me watch, after id packed up.

~clap ~clap

[TF_punchcrumb]

@DaveHarrell wrote:

I can only apologise for the distribution problem which is totally out of our hands. I have been assured that the magazine will be available in next few days.
And pr@ngler, if you actually knew how much hard work goes into producing all of the magazines at DHP you wouldnt come out with such utter crap. All of the staff from every magazine work their balls off to produce consistently good magazines that an awful lot of people enjoy. Your comments are out of order as I’m sure many anglers who appreciate the hard work we all put in will agree. Good luck in the World Championship, hope you win.

I think you will find he is not fishing the world champs Dave~think ~think ~think ~think .

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Dave Harrell et al, ignore the rantings of those who know it all, could do better blah blah.

I have been buying DHP since Dave Hall was still an Active Editor etc so a bloody long time. I enjoy both Match and Pole Fishing.

Keep up the good work.

[TF_Billy no FishParticipant]

I seldom post here now but can’t resist for this. It is my pleasure to have met Jon Arthur, Pat MacInnes and Fordy. All very professional, dedicated and working in different disciplines. All more than willing to help and promote angling. Not met Mark Sawyer yet but he posts regularly on MFS and seems to know his stuff too.

Fordy has just given up a day on the Glebe as he has to work on editing for Fisho. I had a day out with Jon Arthur after bidding in a charity auction and he couldn’t do enough for us. Pat was there too taking photos all day. Quality people giving a lot to our sport. My opinion only but i think they do a sound job.

[DaveHarrellParticipant]

@punchcrumb wrote:

@DaveHarrell wrote:

I can only apologise for the distribution problem which is totally out of our hands. I have been assured that the magazine will be available in next few days.
And pr@ngler, if you actually knew how much hard work goes into producing all of the magazines at DHP you wouldnt come out with such utter crap. All of the staff from every magazine work their balls off to produce consistently good magazines that an awful lot of people enjoy. Your comments are out of order as I’m sure many anglers who appreciate the hard work we all put in will agree. Good luck in the World Championship, hope you win.

I think you will find he is not fishing the world champs Dave~think ~think ~think ~think .

Oh sorry, my mistake. I thought the knob was an international as he clearly knows it all!

[TF_ianswinny]

Can’t believe some people i think its the English moan culture. Dave my Matchfishing and Polefishing always comes on time i think i have subscribed to Matchfishing for 3 years and never no problems keep up the good work

[TF_Cutnut]

@scarf wrote:

“Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . “

A mean, nasty and just plain wrong comment pr@ngler, for which you should apologise, or justify, now you’re sober. If you really are a university teacher, is there such a thing?, I’m so glad you didn’t teach my kids.

A Masters in Critical Thinking perhaps?

[TF_tony beresford]

@DaveHarrell wrote:

@punchcrumb wrote:

@DaveHarrell wrote:

I can only apologise for the distribution problem which is totally out of our hands. I have been assured that the magazine will be available in next few days.
And pr@ngler, if you actually knew how much hard work goes into producing all of the magazines at DHP you wouldnt come out with such utter crap. All of the staff from every magazine work their balls off to produce consistently good magazines that an awful lot of people enjoy. Your comments are out of order as I’m sure many anglers who appreciate the hard work we all put in will agree. Good luck in the World Championship, hope you win.

I think you will find he is not fishing the world champs Dave~think ~think ~think ~think .

Oh sorry, my mistake. I thought the knob was an international as he clearly knows it all!

[TF_pr@ngler]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Dave. It was certainly the case that Matchfishing improved when you took over as editor and I remember writing that on this forum.

None the less I do have concerns about coarse fishing mags. Just some of the reasons for that include:

* Features in mags often over-emphasise tackle rather than the decisions and choices the anglers make to respond to the conditions on the day. Of course the gear is important, if buying the right gear was the main criterion we’d all fish for England (!). But its those skills and decisions that make a really good angler.
* On the subject of tackle, is it still the case that some mags only review products if the manufacturer pays for advertising space in the mag?
* Don’t some mags have an editorial policy of not saying anything bad about products they review? If that’s the case, what does a good review mean?
* How often do we see a group of products compared side by side with a clear indication of which is the best, which is the best value etc?
* Many of the qualities we want in our gear are objective and easily measured (think of pole stiffness, balance, recovery etc). Mags tend to describe these things by impression rather than by measurement, yet there have been loads of calls on here for objective measurements. Why doesn’t it happen? There was a story on here about six years ago that a mag did start to make objective measurements of tackle quality and one of their advertisers threatened to pull their adverts from the mag.
* Mags in other sports (I’m thinking of my wife’s triathlon mags, which is a smaller sport than angling) manage to do these things
* An anecdote. About 5 years ago a mag published something that was scientifically wrong about tackle design. I emailed the editor privately (he’d written the piece) giving him the chance to correct it in a later issue without losing face. Not only did he not do that, he never had the good manners to reply, which would have cost him about ten key strokes.

I’ll never be a quarter of the angler you will ever be, but I paid a lot of money for fishing mags over the years and the points above disappoint me.

[TF_Patrick MacInnes]

@pr@ngler wrote:

Best solution of all is not to buy either match fishing or APF.

I subscribed to both for over 10 years. I’ve given up both and have the money to spend on better things. Best part of it all is that I catch more fish.

I used to think journalists were the laziest profession on earth. Now I realise that not all journalists are the same.

Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . .

Good old pr@ngler, still as objective as ever….

[TF_Waveney One]

My newsagents got their supplies yesterday, Friday in Suffolk.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

pole fishing’s not out either is it?
should have been released friday,,
again,,no sign of it!

[TF_bignParticipant]

Instead of moaning it’s not in the shops subscribe!!!!

It’s already been pointed out distribution has been disrupted due to circumstances beyond DHP’s control.

[Anonymous]

Had my Match fishing a week now, pole fishing since Friday both great reads but i must admit they seem to be a few extra pages every month of the “Dragon carp and Ultimate adverts” of which i dont care for IMO

As for distribution Dave you can blame them but its for DHP to manage. Maybe you need to contract someone else for this because it seems you may have lost a few sales……

IMO Subscibe…only had one issue, resolved in a few days!

Would like to see some Guru products in a subscription package as well LoL.

Trolley

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

@bign wrote:

Instead of moaning it’s not in the shops subscribe!!!!

It’s already been pointed out distribution has been disrupted due to circumstances beyond DHP’s control.

who’s moaning????
im simply making a point that it aint out and was wondering,as with matchfishing , if any others had it in there area!!!

[TF_iansi01354]

I agree with many replies, I would recommend subscribing, you get preferential rates and added value extras (can’t quite call them “free” gifts but still a good deal)

I have subscribed for 10 years and never yet had a problem, I simply take the gift on one mag and get a discount on the other mag every year, a good deal, a good read and no shopping trips for me, as to me being a better angler….maybe but its more entertainment and a bit of education…..

As to the comments about journalists…..I am a bit gobsmacked really. Laziness is surely about the individual not the profession itself if you truely wanted to be objective!

[TF_Kevin W]

iansi01354 wrote:

“As to the comments about journalists…..I am a bit gobsmacked really. Laziness is surely about the individual not the profession itself if you truely wanted to be objective!”

Well said that man~clap

[TF_pr@ngler]

Kevin, its possible to make a generalisation about a group whilst recognising that there are individuals within the group who don’t fit the generalisation, so I wouldn’t tar everyone with the same brush. We could for instance say that on average, angling journalists don’t have red hair, but not be very surprised to see one who does.

As for Pat, well I’ve tried really hard to understand what you mean, but I just don’t get it. I can only think that you are trying to be sarcastic. Even in an ironic sense I fail to see what your quip about being objective means.

As I have told you before, I bought DHP mags (Coarse fishing, Match Fishing and APF) for nigh-on 20 years. Aren’t you even the slightest bit interested in reflecting on criticisms made by such a long term customer?

[TF_GALPS]

I have to say that i have been a subscriber to several course angling magazines over the past 10 years and i can honestly say that i feel they have improved immensly!

I have had to reduce my subscription to just Match Fishing due to finances, however, i did not stop my other subscriptions due to poor content!

The effort that must go in to making that magazine content month after month and still keep a strong following clealry isnt done by anything other than hard work!

Keep it up chaps, im right behind you!

[TF_Kevin W]

pr@ngler wrote:

“Coarse fishing journalists are the laziest profession on earth. Except that they’re not professional . . .”

You can put whatever spin on it you like, but that statement is nasty, just nasty.

And no, I am NOT interested in criticisms made by someone who spouts such drivel.

[TF_photoj]

pr@ngler

Not Professional – Don’t Work Hard – Easy Life – Yer right!!!

If you want good quality features, you have to be on the bank when the fish are biting and if that means at the crack of dawn or at last knockings, so be it!
Over the last few months I have been on 300-mile-plus round trips, which include 4am or 5am starts (that’s on the bank), plus 10pm finishes, which meant I arrived home at 12.30am.
So as you can see it’s not a Monday to Friday,9 to 5 job – often, when the angler cannot make a weekday, we will go out on a Saturday if needed.

SO Not Professional – Don’t Work Hard – Easy Life. Can you do any better?

Rant over. I feel so much better now I’ve got that off my chest!

[TF_mike strutter]

havent read all the responses but they had it in my local tescos last week

cheers mike strutter

[TF_Patrick MacInnes]

pr@ngler, don’t take yourself seriously all the time.

Yes, you obviously have some strong opinions and make some valid points but take a step back and look at how you address folk and you’ll see why people get defensive and sarcastic etc… sometimes you come across a tad too full-on 🙂

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