MFS

[TF_proper tidal boy]

WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS THREAD ACCESS DENIED ???????~think ~think

[TF_justin case]

it got sucked into a cyberhole

[MrFoxman]

https://www.total-fishing.com/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=28725

Paddy did the right thing by deleting it.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

You can’t escape that feeling of contentment that only comes from knowing that someone who’s been a member for three whole months can decide what’s right and wrong for this forum.

No wonder hardly anyone posts here any more.

[TF_Wheely Crap Angler]

CR if you are referring to Paddy he joined February 2004

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Jeez – I give up.

Try reading the post above mine, it should be easy enough to spot!

[TF_Wheely Crap Angler]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit I am led to believe…….

Everyone is entitled to an opinion regardless of the time they have been on here.

[TF_D.W.]

Time for my two penneth worth on the subject.

If someone has a problem with another site, then take it up with them directly. This site is not for airing personal issues regarding other sites, but a site that is supposed to be used for actual ANGLING related questions.
There has already been enough bad blood between the two sites as it is and there is no need for any more to be made because of personal grievances.
It is easily done to not visit a site if you don’t like it or the people that use it, nobody has made it mandatory that anglers have to visit or use every site out there.
There are plenty of angling sites out there that I don’t visit or use for one reason or another, and that is the good thing about the power of choice.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

“Everyone is entitled to an opinion regardless of the time they have been on here.”

Unless it is decided that it has to be deleted, then presumably, they aren’t.

The encouragement of thread/post deletion on a forum is akin to urging a football team to keep passing backwards IMO.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Unfortunately DW you are not being given an option to ignore what is happening because one site (not this) is acting in a very unscrupolous manner towards every other angling site but in particular this one. When those in charge of that site are deliberately trying to sink a site you admin, then you can either smile and be nice whilst they shit on you or stand up for yourself. By deleting the thread you blocked people’s access to what is happening. To give you an example at how absurd the other site has become they not only ban anybody for having an opinion unless they are ‘a name’ but they then have to delete posts from their own admin and one of the said names to cover up the mire they created by somebody exposing their fairly scummy ploys.

IMO you know what is going on, Geeps knows, Paddy knows but you do nothing about it. Sorry but the time has come to stop playing nicey nicey when the other side of stabbing you in the back whilst smiling at you.

[Shark Teeth]

I haven’t a clue whats going on or gone off, but it seems to me there’s a lot of growing up to be done on both teams, life’s too short.

[TF_scarf]

A touch arrogant, don’t you think Mr Rob. And not a very nice comment on a new(ish) poster. I didn’t think you had to serve your time on here before you could give an opinion.
In my opinion, if I may be allowed to express it, it’s comments like yours that damage this site and tolerance such as that shown by site admin that strengthen it.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

As arrogant as being presumptious enough to decide what’s right and wrong.

I’m all in favour of people expressing opinions, whatever they may be. I can’t, for the life of me, see the benefit of deleting them.

As I, and a good many others, hardly post on here now, I don’t think the damage can be too significant.

Perhaps admin will delete everything and we can all look at a blank screen.

[TF_slippery]

!

[TF_scarf]

CR. As I didn’t see the original thread I can’t be sure, but I get the impression it was deleted purely because it could cause conflict with another site. If that’s the case I think I can live with admin’s decision. I still don’t see why you’re upset with MrFoxman for daring to support it.
Other than that I agree with you; we should all be big enough to take the hits from the few keyboard warriors that come on here and not shout delete at the first sign of an insult.
I do believe, though, that a lot of people don’t post on here for fear of being shot down. And that really is a shame.
I don’t know anyone who posts on this site and usually don’t have the time to contribute to discussions, but I still value it for the information that is freely available if I ask.
And it’s free, which means a lot to a Yorkshireman.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Scarf, I am not saying Mr Foxman is (although IIRC he is a member of both forums) but you get numerous members of that site coming here stirring it and often posts that somebody might think are genuine are simply aimed at that.

TF has done nothing wrong. Most sites function happily alongside each other. It has been that way for a decade, maybe longer but we now have one site operating at the level of the gutter with some very underhand behaviour.

[Philmynet]

Please explain in small words so this thick person can understand what exactly MFS are doing?
If you cant then shut up!!!!!!

[TF_mp.milo]

Glad its not just me Philmynet,im on both sites and dont have a problem with anybody or anything posted on either site.

[TF_TJ]

It seems to me that neither site has done anything wrong.However there are a few mindless prats that seem hell bent on causing trouble between the sites when there isn’t a problem at all. Geeps has been on MFS and done a Q&A and seemed to enjoy it so if the man that owns this site doesn’t have a problem then why should anyone elses have.

[BreakerParticipant]

Notused the site for a few months because of work, but to be honest looking at this it will be a few months before I do again, my impression of a fishing site is to talk about fishing.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

You see what I mean about people coming from ONE site to abuse people on this site. Yet apparently everybody on any site bar that site is a mindless yob.

Lest we forget this is the site where in the last week, the admin threw a hiddy fit because some members dared to recommend floats from Nick Gilbert who had given a lot to that site but not as much as others and said Admin dcreed it was time for members to be loyal to the site sponsors. When some members questioned that response, what happened, threats to pull the plug on competitions and trips. If the admin was a woman you could said time of the month but he doesn’t have an excuse. This was an example of how those that runing that site have become so obsessed with securing sponsorship. Money is the be all and end all and to hell with the members.

Admins on that site are deliberately criticising other sites and trying to blow any minor debate into some example of negativity. Much of what is happening is based on the misguided notion that names equate to a forum. When Grant Albutt threw a hissy fit on here certain admins from that site stoked the fire on here and then said awww Grant come over here (drop your trousers for Billy) We have seen the same with Keith Arthur. I can remember when Keith first started using the net and he threw an hissy fit on Talk Angling and walked, he did the same here and walked. The difference now is we have a site playing a very dangerous game. A very nasty one.

(moderated)

We even had his sidekick on here threatening physical violence. Time to grow up indeed.

Behind the scenes several people know what is being said and done and it is very unscrupolous but it is one way and one way only. One site is not playing the game whereas every other site is and always has but maybe the reason why that forum came into being is a reflection of the motives of those concerned.

A very poor do and I actually offered to discuss this privately with the people concerned but they lacked the balls to do that.

[Philmynet]

I asked a question either put up or shut up!

If you know what is going on please enlighten me if you are just
Speculating button it!

NWCA you obviously have a problem with MFS!

Answer me this why do you think this site is so quiet and MFS so busy oh that’s right your not a member!

[TF_FBlues]

NW Cut Angler: Maybe I could clarify one or two things regarding your comments. I don’t recall throwing a hissy fit, either here or on Talk Angling. I retain an affable relationship with Peter Plant, who I knew well before t’internet and if I did ‘do one’ on there it would have been retaliation, although I have to say I don’t recall such an event. Part of my nature is not to let things lie; sorry but I just can’t help it as this post indicates.

The reason for my not posting regularly here anymore, although I have answered specific questions recently, was because my integrity was challenged, mostly over comments, which I stand by, about an angler who criticised an event which bis actions discredited. I suggested that he had brought angling into disrepute by his actions.

Any comments or opinions I make that are not direct answers to questions seem to raise certain people, like trout to a fly, to bite, snarl and respond in a way that can only be described as personal, unwarranted and possibly fuelled by jealousy – although that will be denied vehemently, I can think of no other reason.

Throughout my angling career, and the professional part of it, I have always done my best to help people improve their sport and their vision of the sport. I don’t think I have many enemies, except on this forum, but have lots of friends.

Where my opinions are not valued or considered without prejudice, I stop giving them. It’s quite simple really.

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

Can I just put something to bed that’s cropped up in a few posts recently.

The launch of MFS has had no effect on the traffic figures of TF.

The forum might not be as busy with a group of 50 people who used to post all the time, but the traffic figures are as high as they have ever been with well over 30,000 unique users per month meaning that TF is still one of the busiest angling websites in Europe.

What keeps TF and any similar website with no membership fee going is advertising, and advertisers are interested in unique users (the number of different people/customers visiting a site each month).

Running a successful website is not all about a forum, it’s about having a lot of unique users.

It’s just the forum people who shout the loudest…..

[TF_joffmiester]

~clap ~clap ~clap ~clap that should say it all geeps ~clap ~clap move on

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

By the way… it’s very easy to come onto a forum and make accusations but i deal in facts and unless I find out for a fact that anything underhand is going on, I’m happy to accept that nothing is.

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