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    • #36497

      TF_NW Cut Angler

        I keep reading people talking about fish deaths but aren’t deaths after spawning or severe cold weather simply nature’s way of balancing stocks?

        Likewise, farmers will tell you frost, minus conditions are great for killing off bugs naturally.

      • #90882

        TF_Sneaky

          That may well be true,but how many commercial fishery owners want balanced stocks.

        • #90886

          TF_MarkT

            It’s the iced over lakes that are causing deaths where no oxygen can get in and gases can’t get out. We’ve not had weather like this in 40 years so many people haven’t even experianced it before, it’s more than severe weather.

          • #90887

            Anonymous

              any fishery where there are excess pellet and paste going in and overstocked are at natures mercy all year round but extreem weather conditions just accelerates the inevitable

            • #90890

              Anonymous

                @trav849 wrote:

                It’s the iced over lakes that are causing deaths where no oxygen can get in and gases can’t get out. We’ve not had weather like this in 40 years so many people haven’t even experianced it before, it’s more than severe weather.

                it’s not the ice mate it’s the toxins in the body of water,I lived in the states 23 years where the lakes are frozen 6-8 inches thick for 3 months a year and no problems over there

              • #90893

                TF_MarkT

                  @psb182 wrote:

                  it’s not the ice mate it’s the toxins in the body of water,I lived in the states 23 years where the lakes are frozen 6-8 inches thick for 3 months a year and no problems over there

                  According to Bruno Broughton the ice is a problem but the main problem will be with lakes that have silt as the gases that comes off it is deadly and they have no where to go.

                  Lake in the states don’t have the stocking density as we do over here and most are spring fed.

                • #90897

                  Anonymous

                    what I was trying to say is that you just can’t keep piling pellet and paste into a body of water thats already overstocked and not take care of it or something is gonna happen sooner or later especially shallow lakes.

                    In the states nobody uses pellet and VERY few use paste and basically nobody overfeeds

                  • #90898

                    TF_MarkT

                      Yeah it defiantly can’t be good mate especially when it’s cold the pellets will take ages to break down. I read somewhere a while ago about pellets and how it can cause the water to a funny colour don’t know how much truth is in that though.

                    • #90910

                      TF_ubat

                        Hmmmm?

                        So it is the unnatural species, stoked to an unnatural level, in an unnatural water, fed unnatural food?
                        ~think

                      • #90924

                        TF_orexina

                          If the problem is the stagnation of the water by it not circulating due to the ice, it can’t be too difficult to pump the water around. There has been comment that this mixes up the thermocline but if this is done over a long period then the fish should get used to it. It could also be done useing wind power so as to reduce the cost. There must be wind driven pumps around.
                          The main problem is not to over re-act about these extreme conditions.
                          Also some explanation needs to be given why its not good to break the ice as a lot of waters have done.
                          On canals, 4ft deep, you can break the ice and catch 5 – 15lb of roach and skimmers as this doesn’t seem to upset the fish. Try this on some lakes also 4ft deep and it harms/upsets the fish. Doesn’t add up. Where is the evidence that its harmful or is it just somebodies idea. With the number of commercials around there must be a way finding out who had dead fish, broke the ice, left the ice etc to get an idea of the best way to approach extreme weather.

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