Pellet wag depth changes

[TF_JohnH]

I have read a couple of the excellent articles on pellet wag by Dave Britton and Perry Stone. It seems universally accepted that depth changes are best achieved by either changing a hook length, as the floats are fixed, or by having two or more rods set up to cover changes in depth.
We know that 2 inches difference in depth can make all the difference so I would argue that some tackle development maybe called for here or has someone already solved this problem?
Does anyone have a set up that allows depth changes whilst still retaining a rhobust set up to cope with the hammer that PW places on the gear?
Or is it best to have loads of hook lengths made up to cover all situations? Bear in mind the need to also change the hair length as well and the mind boggles!!

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

Tie a sliding stop knot onto the mainline and attach the float a tag end.

[TF_Mr Whippy]

Never had a problem with Preston waggler attachments. The slide sleeves are easy to move.

[MrFoxman]

I don’t faff about with having hooklengths of all lengths or fixed floats i just simply use preston waggler attachments and they slide up and down the line easily and work very well.

[Nick D]

Preston Waggler attachments for me too.

It takes seconds to alter the depth.

[TF_C.A.T.C.H.Participant]

Im not sure if its Daves set up or someone else so I appologise if I give the wrong credit to the individual.
I have read somewhere about doubling up the last 24″ 0f main line and twisting it to get it to “wrap” together.
This then forms a strengthen length and I then loop to loop a hooklenght of about 12″ to this.
The waggler is attached and shotted either side on the double thereby not causing damage to the line.
In effect this gives you between 12″ and 36″ of depth changes.
A second rod could be used with a longer length if needed. Ive never bothered with a long length tending to fish another method and build the pellet swim before going over it.
Im going to try a waggler link type of attachment this year as It will be easier to move and should not cause any damage to the main line.

T.

[TF_Serious Sam]

All I use is the normal drennan float stops.

I buy the small ones so they’re tight on the line, one above the float as this doesn’t take a hammering and two below butted up to each other so they won’t move.

I’ve used this all day on loaded wagglers up to 14g and never had problems with it moving, if it did move I’d just add a third one there’s no way that would shift.

You can adjust the depth in seconds.

[TF_hookpulledagain]

the cralusso waggler attatchments imo are better then the preston ones…

[TF_JohnH]

Thanks for the feedback, however when using shot on the line surely its harder to move whatever set up you use? Most of the above ideas are great if you are using self loaded floats. The pundits suggest these floats dive too deep when fishing very shallow.
The adaptors sold by Steve Mayo are available in most shops and they overcome the shot problem but you still need to overcome how you can fix them to the line in a way they can quickly be moved when you want to try a different depth.

[TF_JohnH]

Sorry Serious Sam your idea to use float stops would work with either loaded floats or when using the Mayo loading attachments, thanks will give them a go.

[TF_Serious Sam]

Works for me 🙂 – I’ve never had a huge problem with loaded floats diving too deep, I’m no expert but there doesn’t seem to be a huge amount of difference to me. I always try to feather the float on landing anyway.

[TF_Renarc]

I used the Steve Mayo loaded pellet waggler system all of last season, and to great effect,providing your float is the correct size in relation to the weighted adaptor there should not be any need for extra shot !!..I used float stops either side of the weight,to adjust the float depth, which takes seconds to achieve,my hook length is usually about 6 inches via a micro swivel to my main line, sorry but I can not justify having a second rod purely to have an alternative depth when my single rod set up can be adjusted so quickly !!…having said that the only senario might be if you are able to feed two swims that are 10 or 20 mts apart,something I have not tried but I suppose might be a concideration hmmmm.

[TF_spotter1707]

I use the steve mayo adapters. When using them make sure you glue the tube, that holds the float onto the adapter, or you end up ledgering & wating to get your float back!!

[TF_JohnH]

Thanks Renarc, this seems to be the way to go, Mayo adaptor locked by float stops using two or three to ensure nothing slips. I think the guys that fish the southern venues will probably find the fish will come up ultra shallow, say 12 inches. In my experience up North the fish tend to sit deeper even when its warm. Hence a bit of a dive of the float up here is not as critical or am I talking nonesense?
I do like Baitchefs idea when fishing closer with less weight needed.
Thanks for all the feedback and PM.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

Steve Ringer told me about this last year on this forum, aparantly Alan Scothorne had been experimenting with it. Like most things its dead simple if you think about it and just being creative with line, which seems to be how the best anglers over the years have thought.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

Down South, on some heavily stocked venues, juvenile fish will come to the splash, hence the reason why you can fish as little as 6 inches deep. They do wise up though.

[TF_JohnH]

Baitchef, two small points just to save me time fiddling around with this, how long do you leave the tags and I assume you lock the float with shot on the tags, does it matter which side of the float you put the bulk?
I know on normal PW the bulk is better on the side AWAY from the hook to minimise tangles.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

No idea sorry, I have never tried it, I am Just going on what Steve suggested. I suppose thinking about it, perhaps you still need the bulk of shot under the float? I want to give it a go but its still far to cold to even bother with.

[TF_JohnH]

No problem, I have won a session with Alan S on a charity auction so I will talk to him about it and email you. Its at the end of April so will take a few weeks yet.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

Thank you. That will be very interesting. I dont suppose he will mind it being shared on an open forum?

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