Pellet Waggler Overall Set Up

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

Much has been written about loaded versus non loaded pellet wagglers, but what about your overall set-up?

What rod, line set-up do you use and how much do you vary it depending on distance and or size of the target fish?

I’m doing a video piece on the various pellet waggler options next week and would like your feedback….

[TF_JMCLincoln]

Have you got any of the Cralusso Rocket Pellet Wagglers ? If not let me know, see what I can do to help.

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

No but sent them in with an explanation of what makes them good in our view, and I can look to feature them. I will PM you. Need them by Thursday.

[TF_budnuddParticipant]

Jml- those pellet wag rockets are superb on the cast my only concern (which stops me using them on most commercials) is the depth that they dive under even when feathered down on the cast.

Am I missing a trick?~think

[TF_JMCLincoln]

Bud.
Just give them a side flick before they hit the water, this will make them land on their side and cock straight away.

Bit of practice and it becomes second nature. They are great for fishing tight to an island as well, because your terminal tackle and bait is behind the float on landing, so you can get tight without much fear of getting hooked up on the island.

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

This from Tony Curd…. many thank Tony…

How to fish the pellet wagglers

The Pellet Waggler, well a very wide open method with regard to general rules and self opinions everyone has their own methods when using it!

This is how i set up when fishing the pellet waggler…

Rods – Always like to use a short 11′ Carbonactive Mini rod for upto 35m casts, further than this you’ll need to use a 13′ version to aid line pick up when striking and actually getting the required distance on the cast.

Reels – I always prefer a Daiwa Certate 3000 sized reel for this style of fishing, some people will use smaller reels which is fine however it is easier to wind the fish in with a bigger version as you dont have to pump the fish as much as you would with a smaller one.

Line ? A simple choice really you need a line that is quite light for this style of fishing, while being durable and strong enough to land the fish, for me my personal choice is GURU 4lb Drag-Line.

Floats ? All depends on the day and the distances you are fishing, for me though one common factor is that they are unloaded floats, Loaded floats have the tendency to dive on the cast and in my opinion when pellet waggler fishing the most important part of the cast is the initial splash as you feather it down, I would say 80% of bites come within 15 seconds of the float entering the swim.

Set Up ? As said I use unloaded wagglers and 4lb GURU Drag-Line, As using large shot on the line can cause a weak spot I do like to tie a large loop in the line ? around 18 inches long, and put the float and the shot onto this, this reduces the chances of a breakage around the shots, which do put a lot of stress on any breaking strain of line when catching a big weight of carp. Hooklengths, the length depends on the day which is dictated by the depth the fish are feeding at, I would always use GURU N-Gauge hook length mono for this style of fishing, again its strong and durable, which is essential to good pellet waggler fishing. Hooks for this again need to be strong, I will usually favour Guru MWG hooks in sizes 18-14 depending on the size of pellet I?m using on the day, It?s a strong hook that wont open out under strain and will stay sharp for a full session, allowing more time to concentrate on the important things such as feeding. If the fishing is good I will always just use a hair rigged pellet band to attach my bait, however I find that when the fishing is more difficult and every bite counts, using a lasso definitely fools those odd wary fish on tougher days.

Feeding & Bait ? One thing I see people getting wrong while fishing the pellet waggler is the feeding, they spray bait like there is no tomorrow and this is totally wrong. For a 30m chuck I will always look to feed 8mm pellets, 2 or 3 at a time, just making enough noise to attract the fish to the peg, casting over the top of it with the float, leaving it to settle for about 20 seconds feeding again, then re casting. It?s a method you have to work very hard at and the anglers who work hardest catch the most! Some times it can be worth having a break in feeding and just casting the float out 3-4 times without any feed and this can catch you an odd bonus fish when things start getting tough.

Hope this helps mate!!

Tight Lines
Tony Curd ? GURU/Bait-Tech

[TF_Jabjab]

I use the Cralusso ones which fly like no one’s business but feather them to land. I’ll have to try the sideways flick, JMC Lincoln!

I also use unloaded floats with the Steve Mayo adaptor as I don’t like lots of shot on the line as it weakens it and the floats fly horrible through the air.

As for line 5lb Super Specialist with 30cm hook link of O.18 Silstar to a Drennan Carp Feeder or B911 depending on size of fish.

I used to use the lasso but it was too fiddly so now I cut a small grove around the pellet that the latex band sits neatly in.

I’m no expert at pellet waggler fishing, but this is what works for me.

[TF_herbie]

as with most think its a personal thing realy. we at haines angling have been lucky enough to have dave stockton on the job and we have ended up with the following conclusions.

you need 3 rods i use diawa sr3 with tdr,s loaded with 3lb maxima.we only use 2 swan drakes and there tied ( drennam float attachment) to the line on a three line system locked with 2 swan shots( loop with a swivel on with the loop tail used to make three lines for the shot to go on. this is of coarse fixed hence the three rods 8″ 12″ 18″.
the float should if feathered cock realy quick which is important as this is when you get most takes sometimes even before the float has landed. why 2 swan ?? the thinking is you can normaly cast as far as you can feed 8mm pellets. any more then 3 swan with 11mm. but as we mostly fish stafford moor then 2 swan is enough for us. as with all things this can be improved and i must stress it is OUR prefered method so you purists wind your neck in

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

Thanks Herbie can you just explain that loop system again or email me some kind of sketch…

[TF_JohnH]

Shakespeare two piece 11 foot pellet wag rod, 3012 daiwa reel 6lb line. Hooklength with a 3.2mm band, groove pellet to bed band. Feed 2 or 3 peelts only. Up North you are not fishing for lots of fish ultra shallow so I use the cralluso floats small or medium are heavy enough. I add the flights as advised in an article Perry Stone did. I lock the float with float stops, 2 above 3 or 4 below and can change depth in seconds.
No shot on line is the big bonus along with ability to change depth very quickly. I can use the same set up with Pellet wags which I load with the Mayo adaptors. I have some Wilky ones and some Dave Britton sold me. I use these if I think the fish will come right up to a foot deep.
I tend to use the cralluso set up most as pellet wag floats are banned at Messingham, you have to use convetional floats not thicker than a standard peacock tip. The fish here tend to sit a bit deeper also in my experience.

[TF_JohnH]

Just to add I use a swivel to tie my hook lengths to avoid spin ups.

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