People ordering my stuff on Ebay saying it aint arrived

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

😡 😡 a definetinite no no to buyers on Ebay who pretend they haven’t received their goods there’s nothing worse.

[TF_maker]

had 3 lots off you on eBay, no problems, arrived couple of days after payment.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Most people are genuine unfortunatley though 10% of my recent orders are dissapering its far too much it means make nothing at all for my efforts all I’m doing is spending ages on my ebay admin sorting myther out and furnishing the pockets of the great unwashed with free floats.

[TF_bignParticipant]

Always send my stuff out so they are signed for by the buyer, once bitten etc.

[TF_Tim_D]

Surely royal mail recorded delivery…….?????

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

That’s the way forward for me now Bign

[TF_Smeagle]

It’s happened to me again today.
I sell seatbox stickers on e bay.
If it’s a small one it goes in an envelope, but generally the post office don’t give you a proof of postage receipt for an envelope.
I keep my prices for P&P tight to maximise my sales, I’m thinking of paying the extra for a signature but I can’t swallow the cost myself.
I doesn’t happen too often but it hisses me right off knowing I’ve already made it and sent it.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Exactly same as me Smeagle I don’t always get postage reciepts from the post office I know they have been sent I have 5 discrepant orders at present I’m fed up with it its just hassle

[TF_Happy Dangler]

After yesterdays postage increases I am thinking of packing it altogether. Gone up from 2.20 (2nd class packet to £2.60), if it is more than 8cm thick and even if it only weighs 150g it will be £5.20 (2nd class was £2.20 for any parcel up to 750g) and to add recorded delivery is now +£1.10

[TF_shop4tackledotcom]

I was hit with the new postage costs yesterday, how confusing. I’m going to have to address all of my pricing as its now going to cost me money if I sell certain items!

Smeagle – I get postage receipts for everything, even the little items that are pre paid and go with a first class stamp. If the post office wont do it I think they are just being lazy. Saying that though, I have not ever actually claimed, does anyone know how easy it is?

[TF_gixer1]

I can vouch for Ant, had stuff off him numerous times never a problem, looks like an honest bloke being done over by toerags, black list them mate, your gear is top notch and they’ll suffer when they can’t get it!

[TF_Martin25664]

Anthony, there are a lot of fishermen at Royal Mail and if you are posting floats in a tube without requiring a signature for receipt I am not surprised they are going missing. Perhaps your purchasers are actually telling the truth!

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Your right you do get stuff go missing thats a fact and its incorporated into the cost,but im just astonished at the amount of Ebay orders that go adrift its amazing I do loads of orders through word of mouth with lads that have my contact details from here or other sources and have never once had an issue yet Ebay orders seem to get lost and go missing so you cant not suspect that some people are possibly pulling the wool ?

[TF_Cutnut]

Martin’s not wrong in what he says. It’s unbelievable that the postal service is killing off the small parcel e-bayer. There’s certainly no value for money anymore in their service and their proclivity for losing parcels is world renowned.

I’ve got a shed load of electronic components that I want to e-bay off but looking at the new prices for Royal Mail i’ts hardly worth the effort now.

Do as others have suggested and also pass on the postal charges. If your buyer is genuine they will pay the cost, and consider increasing your minimum order value. I would explore the use of other carriers and help put all those alleged stealing fishing posties out of work 😀

[TF_Swimfeeder]

Perhaps you should seek sympathy from your local tackle shops? If you have any left in your area that is.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

You never bought nowt online then Swimfeeder ?

[TF_bully100Participant]

Im a postman from northampton and you lot are talking bollox 😡
regards mick

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Mick only one person suggested it were the postman

[TF_Swimfeeder]

@Anthonywaters wrote:

You never bought nowt online then Swimfeeder ?

No, I purchased some floats from Malman a few years ago whilst on holiday at White acres, but that is it, I always buy my gear from a local tackle dealer, if you under cut legit businesses, fellow anglers in many cases, you will get no sympathy from me, I look at the big picture pal.

[TF_roblfc3412]

Hi try http://www.myhermes.co.uk royal mail are rubbish no probs with this firm 😀 😀

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

@Swimfeeder wrote:

@Anthonywaters wrote:

You never bought nowt online then Swimfeeder ?

No, I purchased some floats from Malman a few years ago whilst on holiday at White acres, but that is it, I always buy my gear from a local tackle dealer, if you under cut legit businesses, fellow anglers in many cases, you will get no sympathy from me, I look at the big picture pal.

. What is the big picture, do you only buy British? I know what you mean about supporting tackle shops but I would question their product availability

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Not sure Chris,It not a point of view I really understand I dont know if its the old ” buy British” or if its dont trade on line and kill the little tackle shops who dont “buy British !” nevermind thats losing track of the objective, now Ive mentioned it on here and a couple of thousand will have read it I will see a significant reduction in parcels going missing – its magic this site for planting a few seeds.

[TF_Happy Dangler]

I don’t often sell fishing tackle apart from some pellet bands and I’ve been loyal to the Royal Mail service but the latest increases are too much.

Pete – as already mentioned by someone else on this thread, there is a good alternative to the Royal Mail which a lot of ebayers are moving over too called Hermes. They have a thing called Hermes Parcel-Shop and basically you drop the parcel into a local shop in their network at anytime of the day and they collect it from the shop later the same day. I’ve used them 3 or 4 times for bigger parcels and they have been spot-on plus you get a signature. Worth a look.

http://www.myhermes1.co.uk/

[TF_Swimfeeder]

Where have I ever stated that I “only buy British”?

My point is this, if you make your living from selling items of tackle and pay your taxes on the profits then fine, have a bleat about the thieving scumbags that infest this country, if however, you are “doing it on the side ” as a nice little earner, perhaps you should think twice about bleating on about people stealing your goods, as in my view, that would be hypocritical and as I have already stated, you will not get sympathy from me.

I have to comment on the snidey digs regarding our postmen/women too, I think it is utterly disgraceful to suggest they are the culprits, do any of you really believe a person would risk their livelihood for a few fishing floats?

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

If you want to audit my accounts feel free I’ve every invoice for materials including exspense items, all my sales are through Paypal,my work colleague is Sima qualified and works out my p & l and the question is am I making any money at all, if you total my sales and deduct my invoices I’ve nothing and I don’t have much stock on hand. Having quite a good job in retail I’m quite concious of keeping things legit because I’m sure it would go down well if the IR did me ! The intention of this thread was to identify the issue with Ebay parcels going missing and we’ve gone off the rails a little, swimfeeder are you a tackle retailer please ?

[TF_Swimfeeder]

@Anthonywaters wrote:

If you want to audit my accounts feel free I’ve every invoice for materials including exspense items, all my sales are through Paypal,my work colleague is Sima qualified and works out my p & l and the question is am I making any money at all, if you total my sales and deduct my invoices I’ve nothing and I don’t have much stock on hand. Having quite a good job in retail I’m quite concious of keeping things legit because I’m sure it would go down well if the IR did me ! The intention of this thread was to identify the issue with Ebay parcels going missing and we’ve gone off the rails a little, swimfeeder are you a tackle retailer please ?

No I am not a tackle dealer/ retailer or make my living from any angling related employment, never have ,never will.

So my original point about tackle shops having to close because of lack of custom has some merit in your case, I know it is not solely down to people like you, there are other outside forces influencing things, and I realise you are not the only one, so please do not feel picked on, but ask yourself, what chance does a little tackle shop stand with all of it’s overheads against an “internet manufacturer/ retailer? perhaps I am old fashioned, but a good local tackle shop is the hub of the angling community offering more than just items of tackle for sale, if you should decide to quit your little enterprise, you still have your “day job” , the tackle dealer/shop owner does not have that luxury, that is what I mean by “The big picture”, of course, it is only my opinion.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

I don’t feel picked on, its turned into an interesting thread there’s certainly a few people reading It I do sympathise with the decline of fishing shops and pubs and Post offices

[TF_Nick Gilbert]

I use Royal Mail to send hundreds of packets every month, with quite a few overseas, the service is generally good.

I do get the odd package go missing but you are going to get that with whoever you use.

Unless you are sending big stuff I dont think any other company work out cheaper anyway for small packets even with the new pricing.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Royal mail are spot on Nick, Ive been posting stuff in defenda boxes large first class well of course its not recorded so amazingly it goes missing its nowt to do with Royal mail, Ive had my fingers burnt I should have know better more fool me !!!!!!

[TF_Slider]

What a load of shite you are talking swimfeeder !!

If a man wants to make something then sell it on he has every right to do so in our free country.

The question you need to ask before you bleat on is “can this item be bought from a local tackle shop” ? if the answer is yes then I will apologise, if the answer is no then I suggest you do !!

[TF_Swimfeeder]

@Slider wrote:

What a load of shite you are talking swimfeeder !!

If a man wants to make something then sell it on he has every right to do so in our free country.

The question you need to ask before you bleat on is “can this item be bought from a local tackle shop” ? if the answer is yes then I will apologise, if the answer is no then I suggest you do !!

That’s a very ignorant response Slider, I have to say I am disappointed in you, you seem to have completely missed the main point of my original post, specialist hand made floats can be manufactured and wholesaled to local tackle shops and then sold on to anglers, My mate Nick Larkin started his highly successful feeder business NISA, doing just that,I even gave him his first propane gas burner to melt the lead!!!! goodness knows how many feeders he has made with it, as far as I know he is still using it.

Some people have given no regard for others, just looking for a quick buck, they make a product and with very little overheads undercut small tackle shops and legit hand made float manufacturers doing it properly , not giving a damn about the consequences, and they do not even make their living from the enterprise,do you think that is healthy in the long run??? are you sure it is me that needs to apologise?????

[TF_Nick Gilbert]

@Swimfeeder wrote:

Th specialist hand made floats can be manufactured and wholesaled to local tackle shop and then sold on to anglers,

There is no way you can produce a good quality proper handmade float at a trade price you can pass on to a tackle shop and make a reasonable living at it!

[TF_Kagger TNB]

Re. the Post Office.

When you see somebody wearing the uniform of the Royal Mail you know for a fact that they have never had a criminal conviction.

That doesn’t mean that somebody wouldn’t risk their job for a few floats.

We’ve had stuff go missing sent via the Royal Mail. On one occassion, my daughter left a silver bracelet and necklace at the mum in laws (xmas presents). They were packaged up in a jiffy bag and posted.

The jiffy bag arrived with one corner neatly opened and resealed, minus the contents.

Since then, sorry, but I just don’t trust them. And before anybody goes of on one, I have personal friends that work for the Royal Mail.

There are bad eggs in every organisation.

Also, on the subject of floats, I’ve have quite a few ‘Hillbillys’ off him. There’s nothing like them in my local tackle shop. Certainly, I could get floats in there that go under just the same when required, but they would be nowhere near as robust, would probably require a coat of nail varnish, and would probably cost just a few pennies less.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

The objective of the thread was people claiming parcels haven’t arrived !!!! You couldn’t make a handmade and sell it at trade, chimps are 90p at trade who would make a handmade float for that ? Its a different niche in the market my float makings a hobby I love making floats I enjoy watching friends catch on something I’ve made,I have no intention of compromising the tackle trade or dealing in the black market

[TF_Happy Dangler]

Just this minute got back from the post office and was unable to reverse all the way into the space on the forecourt by the box because there was a little old lady behind my car and she looked like she was posting a letter. So I sat there waiting for her to post it and get out the way, watching in my rear view mirror. Next thing she has got her arm in the post box up to her elbow and pulls out a handful of letters. She looked through them then put them all back.

I got out and asked her if she was ok and to be honest I didn’t think she was all there. Spoke to them in the post office and they said she had just been in the shop putting things into her bag and then taking them out again and putting them back on the shelves so it seems she may have had dementia or something.

Point I’m making is that if she can do it someone else who is intent on stealing could also do it. I know this may not account for parcels going missing.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

I’ve seen kids do that outside school years ago waiting in the car for the young un some kid started rifling though an over full mailbox

[TF_Slider]

@Swimfeeder wrote:

@Slider wrote:

What a load of shite you are talking swimfeeder !!

If a man wants to make something then sell it on he has every right to do so in our free country.

The question you need to ask before you bleat on is “can this item be bought from a local tackle shop” ? if the answer is yes then I will apologise, if the answer is no then I suggest you do !!

That’s a very ignorant response Slider, I have to say I am disappointed in you, you seem to have completely missed the main point of my original post, specialist hand made floats can be manufactured and wholesaled to local tackle shops and then sold on to anglers, My mate Nick Larkin started his highly successful feeder business NISA, doing just that,I even gave him his first propane gas burner to melt the lead!!!! goodness knows how many feeders he has made with it, as far as I know he is still using it.

Some people have given no regard for others, just looking for a quick buck, they make a product and with very little overheads undercut small tackle shops and legit hand made float manufacturers doing it properly , not giving a damn about the consequences, and they do not even make their living from the enterprise,do you think that is healthy in the long run??? are you sure it is me that needs to apologise?????

Not ignorance, I was slightly miffed that you inferred tackle dealers were the only people with a right to earn from selling fishing kit. There are many cottage industries that sit on the fringes of many mainstream products and offer a normally higher quality product or indeed something so bespoke that it makes no financial sense to produce on a mass scale.

I always support my local tackle shop where possible but there some things I just cant buy from him so I need to look at the guys who make stuff at home.

[TF_mercvito]

In anwser to ebay i went from sending out 1000 items and only 468 ebay customers got there orders, started sending them out recorded signed for and out of the last 2000 orders sent out only 7 have gone missing . The figures speak for them selves someone is stealing them !!!

In respect to the items people make Leads, float etc have the BO**OCKS to set up a business like the small tackle shop owner has and try and make it pay. Its easy Doing it from home No Business rent , no rates and no HMRC for your profit and no VATT.

Hats off to the customers that support there local shops , shop owners will alway try and price match given the chance.

Next time your ordering off of the internet just sit back and think , When all your local shops have shut then you’ll be forced to pay what they want you to and then it wont be good!!! , just look at what tesco and the likes are doing closing all the small shops in towns and cities.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

@mercvito wrote:

In anwser to ebay i went from sending out 1000 items and only 468 ebay customers got there orders, started sending them out recorded signed for and out of the last 2000 orders sent out only 7 have gone missing . The figures speak for them selves someone is stealing them !!!

In respect to the items people make Leads, float etc have the BO**OCKS to set up a business like the small tackle shop owner has and try and make it pay. Its easy Doing it from home No Business rent , no rates and no HMRC for your profit and no VATT.

Hats off to the customers that support there local shops , shop owners will alway try and price match given the chance.

Next time your ordering off of the internet just sit back and think , When all your local shops have shut then you’ll be forced to pay what they want you to and then it wont be good!!! , just look at what tesco and the likes are doing closing all the small shops in towns and cities.

Who were you considering when you were sending out 1000 items ? whatever your selling online your doing someone injustice surely ?

[TF_mercvito]

All of my post has ever been posted at the post office counter . I cant say how it has gone missing all i can say that once i switch to signed for it stopped it. Everyone now gets tarred with the same brush , it they want my products they pay for the security of it leaving me and reaching them and because they sign for it then they cannot say its gone missing.

RE small fishing shops closing EBAY is the biggest killer of them with wholesalers having two bites of the cherry selling to shop owners and then to there customer at lower prices through ebay and people making money on the side to which HMRC are dragging there heals to catch up with these people and i cant wait to see and read about when HMRC they do.

[TF_mercvito]

The items i send out are readly available in my shop to any customer that walks in my shop.

[TF_mercvito]

The items i send out are hand made by myself for carp fishing . To which everything has been invoiced and taxes paid to HMRC

[TF_Nick Gilbert]

@mercvito wrote:

The items i send out are readly available in my shop to any customer that walks in my shop.

Bit of a contradiction here, if you are selling online mail order then you are taking business from local shops not in your area? What you are saying is it is OK to sell online nationwide if you have a shop! :rolleyes:

[TF_mercvito]

No what im saying is im trying to make my shop survive because i had the bo**ocks to try. The numbers i have sent out via ebay has been over the last number of years. It would be good if we could all do it for drink money.

Unfortunately whether we like it or not fishing is a dieing sport the kids of today are far to engrosed in there XBOX’s and PS3’s to go out side and get cold and wet

If you didnt sell your floats online how well would you be doing, would you be doing it as a side line Sorry Nick but dont know much about your business

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Sounds like somebody wants to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds ?

[TF_Nick Gilbert]

I’m certainly not making floats as a sideline its a full time job!

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Nick its just a hobby for me

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