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31/05/2014 at 5:49 pm #57595
TF_matt hainesDoes having pole arrow marking really help make a pole stiffer? Some manufactures put them on and some don’t! I understand that due to how a section is constructed they will never be perfectly round! And also how do the manufactures decide where to put the arrows? I’d of thought if it made a big difference then all poles especially top end would have arrows!
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31/05/2014 at 6:23 pm #172183
TF_Double Dipper manI think all top end poles have aligners and the sections have to be perfectly round to fit together ? Wether pole aligners work or not im not sure
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31/05/2014 at 7:20 pm #172185
TF_badgerParticipantIf you look down the sections where the arrows are you will see the crease where the carbon cloth has been wrapped round the mandril during manufacture especially on Daiwas and Sensas poles so I should think the pole will perform better if the arrows line up but I don’t reckon its imperative to fish with the arrows always aiming skyward but their good targets when fishing tight across on snake lakes etc as are the graphics on the butt sections.
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01/06/2014 at 9:22 am #172190
TF_paulk66I was under the impression that the arrows or crease showed the ‘backbone’ of the pole. Another words the strongest point where the carbon joins. Thus you would have this at the top when fishing so you had the best stiffness of the pole possible.
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01/06/2014 at 3:12 pm #172191
AnonymousDifferent poles are made in different ways. Some have spines (and more than 1) and others don’t. Aligning the spines isn’t necessarily going to make any noticeable difference at all. Sections don’t have to be round either. Remember the FAPS Hexa ???
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01/06/2014 at 3:42 pm #172192
TF_TIDALWAVE1I remember the CDS {curved design section} poles by Triana,which feature a curved section design,which featured a stiff and soft action depending on which way up the pole was held,but the top kits were traditional round sections.
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01/06/2014 at 8:16 pm #172195
TF_matt hainesNo not all top end poles have arrows. And if u twist a pole section in ur hand u will see they are not perfectly round!!! U can feel the spine. So I’m guessing there is no definitive ans if it makes any difference!
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01/06/2014 at 8:49 pm #172196
TF_Double Dipper manmy thinking behind a pole section has to be perfectly round is how they connect together,say if i put my no 5 onto my 6 its a very snug fit these joints can be twisted 360 degrees into place and both seem symetrical ?
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01/06/2014 at 8:55 pm #172197
TF_matt hainesFeel ur section and u will be surprised! Due to the way they are wrapped there is always an overlap. The internal will always be perfect but not the external then I expect they machine the male joint to be perfect!
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01/06/2014 at 9:41 pm #172198
TF_Double Dipper manDo they make joints for a pole seperatley then fuse them into the carbon tube that comes off the mandrill then ?
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01/06/2014 at 9:47 pm #172199
TF_matt hainesI don’t think so think it’s made in one piece it seems as though they must sand/ machine the joint or something as they are normally a different texture! I’m sure someone out there knows
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01/06/2014 at 11:03 pm #172200
TF_paulnewellIMO it’s a fault in manufacture used as an advantage to create an illusion . Put an arrow on the inside of every bend and we have sections that want to point skywards . These poles appear very stiff . IMO they are no less strong than straight sections . My diawa has a no 6 section and the arrow has not been applied to the inside of the curve it goes sideways . Just needs remarking . Clever use of defected tube ??? IMO 😉
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02/06/2014 at 10:06 am #172202
TF_bakerboyParticipantThe poles which have alignment arrows are usually those whereby there is a join-line along the length of each section.
A join-line is a built-in weakness in any type of tubing, no matter what material is used.
When the arrows are in-line and used on top, the sections on this type of pole are at their strongest.
This is because the forces are trying to pull the material joins along the lines apart.
This is known as shearing, the same as when trying to pull apart two pieces of velcro.
If used with the arrows other than on top (side or bottom), the forces going through each section join-line are entirely different.
This means that breakages are more likely to occur when used in this way.
Poles which have a spiral wrap don’t need alignment arrows, as they are intrinsically stronger than those which have a join along the sections.
No matter how they are used, under load, the forces along spiral wrapped sections are always distributed in the same way.
Spiral wraps are even stronger when the edges are slightly overlapped as the cloth is wound on.
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02/06/2014 at 5:57 pm #171119
TF_TIDALWAVE1You will not find section aligning stickers on reglass poles,as they are still working on technology to make their section arrow stickers stiffer and lighter than anyone elses.LOL
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