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    • #36262

      TF_yorkshire

        I had a look in pole fishing magazine today,
        there was a article by a “preston innovations”
        sponsered angler.
        The article clearly stated that in the feature
        he was using 4×14 preston inter 8 pole floats for his
        open swims and a 4×10 for his edge swim, it went onto say he would of used a carpa gent if conditions where not perfect.
        So we are led to belive inter 8 floats where used.
        It then went onto to promote almost everything under the sun preston has to offer!!!
        Yet on one of the pictures the angler was infact using what looks like a KC angling float???
        What are we to belive………

      • #89269

        TF_bremes
        Participant

          That the conditions were not perfect~think ~think

        • #89270

          DEEDOGDACE
          Participant

            Yorkshire, had you bought the magazine or just browsing in WH Smith’s?

          • #89274

            TF_NW Cut Angler

              Heavens above do not criticise sponsored anglers or you will have Grant here crying his eyes out.

            • #89277

              TF_yorkshire

                browsed with the intention of buying, after seeing this did not buy

              • #89281

                TF_Dodge

                  This months edition of Pole Fishing Mag is brilliant …..theres something there for everyone, very informative ….. but its not quite as good as last months ~think lol

                • #89282

                  TF_NW Cut Angler

                    @Dodge wrote:

                    This months edition of Pole Fishing Mag is brilliant …..theres something there for everyone, very informative ….. but its not quite as good as last months ~think lol

                    Dodge you are just scared of big bad Grant lol

                  • #89283

                    TF_markm

                      does it matter

                    • #89284

                      TF_wayne2009

                        its only not as good cos dodge aint in this months lol

                      • #89287

                        TF_bign
                        Participant

                          The angler in question owns KC Angling so using a KC Carpa Gent would be no surprise, but it looks to me like a Preston Inter 8 anyway

                        • #89291

                          TF_Dodge

                            @NW Cut Angler wrote:

                            @Dodge wrote:

                            This months edition of Pole Fishing Mag is brilliant …..theres something there for everyone, very informative ….. but its not quite as good as last months ~think lol

                            Dodge you are just scared of big bad Grant lol

                            Grant is a top bloke, very funny with a great sense of humour as everyone in the MFS chatroom found out last week ~clap

                            When will you lot on here learn ?? ~naughty

                            Thanx Wayne lol

                          • #89302

                            TF_budnudd
                            Participant

                              Ive gotta say ‘pole fishing’ mag is better than ever and ive really enjoyed the last couple of editions.

                              Match fishing was also an excellent read and thank God too as with all this snow ive needed something decent to read.

                              well done ~clap

                            • #89303

                              garber steve
                              Participant

                                all steve is saying is that because conditions are good he can get away with useing a carbon stem float (and his choice is PI INTER 8)And if it was abit rougher that a wire stem float would be better (HIS CHOICE KC CARPA GENT)he desighns the floats so nows that is good for rougher conditions to be because of the wire stem.Have been to monks afew times and have never seen it so calm so he is saying what he would normaly use. I have known steve since i was about 12 and now 30 and any one that knows him would know that he speaks his mind and has now need to lie, at the end of the day it aint the float that catchs its the angler and i think hes an alright one that.Hes always answerd my questions with what i beleive to be a sensible answer. As for the photos there all PI INTER 8S with two different bristles.

                              • #89310

                                TF_drawbag1967

                                  If you believe sponsored anglers strictly stick to tackle made by there sponsors then you are being very naive. Unfortunately in this country our tackle shops seem to be swamped by one particular manufacturer who’s product though good are made by blind Chinamen.

                                • #89390

                                  TF_chavey
                                  Participant

                                    Dodge, you say it was good last month? but I reckon it will be brilliant next month

                                  • #89393

                                    TF_Dodge

                                      Lol chavey.

                                      Guess i know the venue and the methods then.

                                    • #89419

                                      TF_endpeg

                                        It is 100% an Inter 8 and there was not a Gent in sight on the day so not sure why the hysterics or needless accusations. Might I suggest this link: Specsavers 🙂

                                      • #89420

                                        TF_geepster
                                        Participant

                                          I think there’s a more general point John that some anglers go over the top in what they write in terms of promoting their sponsor’s gear, and it’s counter productive because it turns people off.

                                        • #89423

                                          TF_endpeg

                                            I disagree Gareth. There should be no sub-text. This thread is about what someone wrongly thinks they have seen.

                                          • #89424

                                            TF_daveroberts

                                              There may be a more general point gareth but not in a thread that is titled ‘Pole fishing magazine are we being mugged off’

                                              Thought it was a great read myself and what needs to come through in the articles does so!

                                              Certainly gave me something to do during in all this non fishing depression!

                                            • #89425

                                              DaveHarrell
                                              Participant

                                                So, in answer to the original question:
                                                pole fishing magazine are we being “mugged off”???
                                                The answer is: No!

                                                Sigh….

                                              • #89427

                                                TF_geepster
                                                Participant

                                                  Okay I must admit that may have been miss interpreted – i haven’t read or seen the article and it’s by no means a pop at anyone or any editor or magazine.

                                                  Far from it, Jon’s doing a great job and I think he has answered the specific and deliberately contentiously worded point about whether or not this person was trying to pull the wool over someone’s eyes – clearly it’s a ‘no’, we are not being ‘mugged off’.

                                                  I’m trying to widen the issue – and my point is this: Promoting product is a fine line – I’m talking in any industry not just fishing. We want to know what the top anglers are using, but there can come a point when you just think ‘give it a rest’.

                                                  I can think of quite a few examples and it’s something all magazines need to be aware of.

                                                  It’s always a balance between keeping the advertisers, without which we have no magazines, happy; and making sure the reader is getting concise, honest and up to date information. And usually the balance is pretty good.

                                                  However, if an angler overdoes it, in my opinion it’s actually counter productive for his sponsor because it can go in one ear and out the other.

                                                  Sometimes it’s enough to know that the person drives a such and such car, he doesn’t need to go on about how good the features are… endorsement by association. Will Raison uses Daiwa gear and has been involved in its development, therefore it must be good, if you get the idea.

                                                  Anyway, apologies if my original post was not clear. No, we are not being mugged off.

                                                • #89428

                                                  tomscholey

                                                    I wrote the article in question, and can promise that I was not trying to mislead anyone, and simply told it as it was, as we do in all the features in Pole Fishing.

                                                    In my experience sponsored anglers due generally use their sponsors gear, and when they don’t use it they don’t mind saying what they use instead and why.

                                                  • #89429

                                                    TF_geepster
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thankyou for taking the time to come onto the site and clarify it Tom.

                                                    • #89431

                                                      woodhouse

                                                        Has anyone noticed that Tom doesn’t make Jon look as ugly as Harrell did….

                                                        Pair of ugly buggers!

                                                      • #89432

                                                        woodhouse

                                                          Has anyone noticed that Tom doesn’t make Jon look as ugly as Harrell did….

                                                          Pair of ugly buggers!

                                                        • #89434

                                                          tomscholey

                                                            I would have a go back Lee, but I’m scared of ending up with a cracked rib if I do… 😀 😀 😀

                                                          • #89435

                                                            TF_joffmiester

                                                              @woodhouse wrote:

                                                              Has anyone noticed that Tom doesn’t make Jon look as ugly as Harrell did….

                                                              Pair of ugly buggers!

                                                              ~hand ~hand hang on lee thats the pot calling the kettle he did a fantatic job on you it must of taken days to get a good photo Arrrr

                                                            • #89436

                                                              TF_yorkshire

                                                                @endpeg wrote:

                                                                It is 100% an Inter 8 and there was not a Gent in sight on the day so not sure why the hysterics or needless accusations. Might I suggest this link: Specsavers 🙂

                                                                Thanks for the reply, that is the picture i was talking about, that to me looks nothing like
                                                                the other picture showing the close up of
                                                                the inter 8, for a start the inter 8 close up
                                                                picture show a float that is not black and this
                                                                one is, how do you explain that?

                                                              • #89437

                                                                TF_matt2007

                                                                  yorkshire~shh

                                                                • #89438

                                                                  TF_stevieskin

                                                                    Yorkshire, from what I have seen the inter range have a mottled black/white/grey finish to them. I should imagine that in differing light conditions they can actually appear to look slightly different.
                                                                    Just accept what you are being told by the people who actually know, i.e. Jon and Tom, I cannot see what they could gain by telling lies over a matter this trivial matter.

                                                                  • #89440

                                                                    TF_yorkshire

                                                                      @stevieskin wrote:

                                                                      Yorkshire, from what I have seen the inter range have a mottled black/white/grey finish to them. I should imagine that in differing light conditions they can actually appear to look slightly different.
                                                                      Just accept what you are being told by the people who actually know, like Jon and Tom, I cannot see what they could gain by telling lies over a matter this trivial matter.

                                                                      I fully accept what they say, and my appologise
                                                                      for my mistake, but I think I raise a valid point (although my main point I was wrong, and the answer to my question is NO we are not! (being mugged off)), what got me going was being force fed
                                                                      one brand, read the article, i have infact bought the magazine now.

                                                                    • #89441

                                                                      woodhouse

                                                                        Yorkshire

                                                                        Leave the guys at the Mag alone now…

                                                                        Pick on Snooty Fox instead, he was the one that grassed you up to Gareth.

                                                                      • #89447

                                                                        TF_geepster
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Between you and I Yorkshire, it was Woodhouse who grassed you up – he logged on as Snooty and sent me a message… That’s the kind of person he is….

                                                                        • #89453

                                                                          TF_yorkshire

                                                                            grassed up??

                                                                          • #89491

                                                                            TF_Dodge

                                                                              @tomscholey wrote:

                                                                              I would have a go back Lee, but I’m scared of ending up with a cracked rib if I do… 😀 😀 😀

                                                                              Tom, your 4ft taller than Woodhouse !!

                                                                            • #89500

                                                                              TF_NW Cut Angler

                                                                                Personally I think pole fishing has improved and is on an upward curve. I also think the issue of sponsored anglers and usage of tackle is very valid and I am not bothered if Grant throws his toys out of the pram.

                                                                                I thought you went OTT Mr Harrell with the let’s chat with / interview the star anglers in the latest edition of Match Fishing. It is very hard to beat the Big Kev ones. The Angling Star actually did a very decent interview with an ex big name angler who had returned to the circuit after ywears away and won a National. They also had a very good bread punch article by Allan Barnes in the latest edition.

                                                                              • #89501

                                                                                billy the squid s.t.a
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  Like honestly, really,, you didn’t think it was that float, then it turnes out that it was. is that really what this is all about?

                                                                                • #89557

                                                                                  garber steve
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    For some one who thinks the article in question is going on about preston this and preston that the word preston is only used 8 times over a 5 page article and 2 of them are in his profile,does any one have that feeling when you draw a peg and wish you had fished it different, or worded it in yorkshires case.Realy dont want to go on like moaner so i wont,To all behind the pole fishing and match fishing magazine the work you do is great so dont alter it on the basis of misstaken float identerty i love my mags and all ways keep and lookafter them so i can go back certain articles and look things up,i still have my first match fishing mag JUNE 1994 there good to look at to see how things have changed and who knows in another 16 years i could pick up this months and say (i remember that topic all that fuss over steves floats)just think how big preston could be then.just one last thing just because anglers have the name of there sponcer on there cloaths and tackle doesnt make them pushy sales men, i love garbolino but i do use other stuff any way hopefully by the time ive written this this thread will nearly be over and another one started, hopefully not amoany thread every one relax and love fishing all the best garber steve

                                                                                  • #89562

                                                                                    TF_punchcrumb

                                                                                      @DEEDOGDACE wrote:

                                                                                      Yorkshire, had you bought the magazine or just browsing in WH Smith’s?

                                                                                      TO BE FAIR A QUICK BROWSE IN SMITHS IS NOW THE ORDER OF THE DAY THERES RARELY OUT WORTH READING I KNOW WHERE I WILL BE GETTING MY FREE PREVIEW EVERY SATURDAY~think

                                                                                    • #89563

                                                                                      TF_punchcrumb

                                                                                        MIGHT EVEN BLAG A READ OF THE OTHER CRAP ANGLING PAPER AT

                                                                                      • #89564

                                                                                        TF_punchcrumb

                                                                                          IF YOU SKIP ALL THE AD PAGES YOU CAN DO EM ALL IN ABOUT 20 MINSTHEN GO AND SPEND THE MONEY YOU SAVE ON A BEER.

                                                                                        • #89566

                                                                                          TF_punchcrumb

                                                                                            THE MONTHLYS TEND TO BE A BIT SHINEY FOR HANGING BEHIND THE DUNNIE DOOR~naughty

                                                                                          • #89568

                                                                                            TF_Anthonywaters
                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                              Im waiting till next month there will be some right articles to read probably Alan Scothornes ” how to make an ice breaker” it must be difficult to shoot articles last few weeks ?

                                                                                            • #89593

                                                                                              Anonymous

                                                                                                NW cut angler, I am sure you have spelt your username incorrect.~think

                                                                                                (modded) If you are going to use the think smiley, please think about what you are posting before you hit the send button! personal attacks like that and name calling are a no, no, so please refrain, thank you.

                                                                                              • #89596

                                                                                                TF_NW Cut Angler

                                                                                                  ~clap bravo. No I just don’t suffer fools gladly and I speak my mind.

                                                                                                • #89601

                                                                                                  TF_gis9

                                                                                                    you dont have to buy the magazine.I enjoy the read and l am interested how people fish different venues BUT i do not use a certain float because a sponsored angler uses it

                                                                                                  • #89639

                                                                                                    billy the squid s.t.a
                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                      I do

                                                                                                    • #89640

                                                                                                      TF_MarkT

                                                                                                        Both magazines were a good read this month~clap

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