Red colouring agent for maggots

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    • #39154

      TF_Dr.Phil

        Anyone know the name for the agent used in colouring maggots RED ?
        What form of Rhodamine is used ?

      • #103853

        FORDY 1
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          Rhodamine,but it’s ‘fed’ into them on the meat.

        • #103866

          TF_Dr.Phil

            Thanks Fordy……i was looking for the specific coding for Rhodamine as there are so many variants of it.

          • #103893

            TF_Waveney One

              I know that it is fed in powder form and when you feed is critical. I got that much info from the maggot farm.

              I got my rhodamine from there but to be truthful I have been very unsuccessful in using it on home breds. No trouble getting the fluro to work but the red stuff is a nightmare. Don’t try mixing it with water to a paste as you would the fluro, it doesn’t work! I have tried mixing it with olive oil but even that wasn’t a real success. Just a dull uninspiring colour and the maggots floated!

              I have given up to be honest so I can let you have some powder if you PM or email me your address. In return, if you are successful then drop me a line with the secret.

            • #103915

              smallfry

                the red dye is also the same red stuff the put into diesel to make it red for agricutural use….
                oh and its toxic and says should not be used for the dying of any other substances or products…

              • #103934

                TF_Waveney One

                  It should obviously be used with care. I wouldn’t encourage anyone to bathe in the stuff.

                  There again the lead in my toy soldiers and in the drinking water pipes was also toxic when I was a kid. Hasn’t killed me yet although I may be a little mad. Thought I had better get that one in first.

                  It hasn’t made me as mad as all the modern H&S rubbish though. I am amazed that any of my generation ever made it into our 60’s what with all the poisons in the system. As for my parents generation they just had the 2nd world war to contend with. A bit dangerous that.

                  Imagine being allowed to use asbestos in school on every Bunsen burner gauze for instance. Being let out to play football in the park on our own, outside toilets, no central heating, open fires with COAL or wood that created pea soupers where you literally couldn’t see across the pavement yet alone down the road to see if the trolley bus was coming or not! Blowing your nose and finding it was all black. Kept in short trousers until we went to ‘big school’ when we were 11, proper winters then as well with lovely chapped legs.

                  Rant over.

                • #103935

                  TF_punchcrumb

                    i thought rhodamine was cancer causing like the stuff we used to dye maggots bronze chrisodyne or summat it was called.
                    wouldnt have thought they would still be using a carcogenic substance for dying commercialy bred maggots.
                    Iwas told they use somthing called fat red for dying them now but whatever it is it would need to be very strong and obviously fed intoo the grubs.
                    trouble is if you put dye on the meat and theres to much or the grubs dont like it they will just avoid it.
                    Not sure what they use for dying diesel but whatever it is it is bloody strong stuff they reckon it will still show red after many many
                    tank refills with the legal stuff after you have used the red in your motor.
                    Not that i use red diesel in my car though lol it wouldnt run very well its a petrol

                    ~think ~think

                  • #103939

                    TF_Waveney One

                      It was rhodamine that they used to dye diesel. When we first used it to colour maggots we called them ‘oily reds’. The chrysodine used to come off the maggots and you would get it all over your face.

                      If you took the trouble to clean the maggots properly with plenty of sawdust changing it 2 or 3 times you could get all the surplus chrysodine off the maggots and keep clean hands and face – until it rained!

                      You would doubtless be surprised what goes on at maggot farms to this very day.

                    • #103958

                      TF_Dr.Phil

                        Waveney 1 , smallfry , punchcrumb ……

                        ……thanks for all the comments , i let you know what happens in our quest for the knowledge. Great input fellow piscatorials !

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