tidal thames club part two

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

morning fellow widscreen scrapers, its been seven days, so time to move on.
I am now far greater versed in whats involved, club constitution etc, etc.

The proposal is for a free to join club which will be unincorporated, and cater for members who fish, or have an interest in fishing the lower and tidal thames.
It is proposed that it will be an internet based club, utilising an already established site, to carry out its business.
Initial costs will be met by members pledges and donations, this is to primarily cover the cost of joining Angling Trust and Fish Legal.
At the inaugural meeting, the constitution will be agreed upon, and club officials will be chosen, responsibilities delegated and agreement sought for joining Angling Trust and Fish Legal. The aim being to proceed for loss of amenity from Thames Water via Fish Legal with utmost speed. Thus satisfying those that join solely because of loss of amenity, not because they need another club.
Keith Arthur will be proposed as honourary president.
All other business will only be discussed if the elected committee deem it practical at this inaugural meeting. However facilities will be available to record what other proposals/concerns members may have, and a schedule agreed to respond to those concerns/proposals.

Please bear with me with regards to constitution.

I hope that all this is satisfactory, as I have done my best, any errors I apologise for and will applaud you for pointing them out.

What we need now are pledges, both of donations and roles that people would like to fill.
In order for transparency would any person or persons willing to assist please do so on this thread.
Note that all pledges and assistance are not legally
binding, until you have decided that the constitution is O.K.

Thats all for now folks, squeak soon

[TF_MICK THE BOOKIE]

Jim…….I am very interested in getting involved in some capacity.Please keep us all up-to-date in future decisions….MTB.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

thankyou sir, the plan is for transparency

its icy in them millionaires drives

[TF_proper tidal boy]

OK BEEN PROMISHED 3x copies constitutions from different sources bear with me

[TF_proper tidal boy]

geeps or a considerate mod would it be poss to join the two tidal threads together as im sure a mushroom wouldnt mind would you ???? as it keeps all the points in one place for the future as it loooks like it starting to move ???? PLEASE

[TF_simon pavey]

Anyone remember the last time Mogden was discussed on here? A representative/spokesman(from Mogden) joined in and gave an account of HIS position on the matter. I have searched for it but I cant find it.I also I feel it could be beneficial if a rep from the Angling Trust responded.
apart from fblues who has………… ~clap

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

thats a great idea, proper tidal boy, can any mods assist please,
simon, I for one would be very interested in what was said

thanks buddies and keep those opinions/pledges coming

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

it seems we are to be called Thames Anglers Conservancy,
name registration is taking place
constitution compiled
internet site sorted
committee members have yet to come forward
but pledges so far have been fantabulous,
all we need now is more goddamn posts [cheese and rice [say it quick]], I hope that aint swearing

feasonal selicitations

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

I know you boys are busy prepping bait and tying rigs, but any chance of some comments/feedback please
positive/negative, it makes no odds, they all add a charge to the cause, not that batteries are running low yet

squeak soon folks

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

well chaps, what a crimbo pressie we have now
mick the bookie will be involved at the start of 2010,[unsure yet as how]
the first to pledge help on this forum
lets hope that signals the all in

dont need your money,dont need your time
but do need your name,

the more members, the more clout, so please pledge to join for free, that all thats needed

IT AINT RIGHT TO ALLOW TURDS TO BE PUT IN A RIVER, ANY RIVER

Mick, it is people such as yourself that are going to make a difference, many, many thanks
it may have started at 33/1 but now its gotta be odds on evens

have a good one chaps

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

come on folks I’m struggling here, are you waiting for mick before the all in ?

No-ones in it to make any money,
just for justice

if you want to see how its going check out cemex angling, tidal thames club part two

if not here’s how it stands,;
over 30 people have reconfirmed pledge to join
over £250 has been pledged
a website is being constructed for free
angling times and mail are interested in covering story
Keith Arthur will be president

all since sunday just gone, thats gotta be fantabulous
where are you, please get onboard

[TF_Waveney One]

Hi mate, I hope that you have my name down.

Richard Watson

Have a good Christmas.

[TF_Waveney One]

My son has said he will join, Chris Watson

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

fella’s the first father and son,
it dont get no better, ’cause thats what its for

your children and childrens children would be proud you helped stop turds being put in a river

glad you have reconfirmed mate and your son makes it that bit special

many, many thanks from all those you are joining
have a splendid xmas, next year is looking pukka

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

just compiled/composed the proposed clubs constitution, it runs to 1400 words and is probably full of errors, as I did it all myself,
anyway need to get you to see it and point out the mistakes, dont think I can post 1400 words in one go, anyone have any bright ideas except leave it in the loo

squeak soon folks,

[TF_proper tidal boy]

in possession of two constituitions will buzz for delivery HAPPY READING LOL

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

nice one proper tidal boy

we all appreciate it
squeak soon fella

[TF_proper tidal boy]

buzz me will deliver now

[TF_jaap stam]

you can count on my support.

[TF_proper tidal boy]

ah great support jaap unlike them bubbles

[Daddy BParticipant]

Not wanting to steal amushroom’s thunder, but you can check out the cemex angling forum where the constitution has now been posted under the “general coarse fishing chat” section.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

nice one jaap stam thanks buddy its been hard generating interest on here, so a big welcome

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

nice one senor was gonna send pm’s didnt want to upset mods

SO DRAFT CONSTITUTION POSTED ON CEMEX SITE UNDER THAMES CLUB CONSTITUTION

Please have a look at my poor attempt, it might make you laugh once the mother in law goes home

reason its on there is interest is greater and to much to post on all three sites

have a good’un and thankyou all

if my responses are short its because I’m chasing my shadow at the mo

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

constitution is posted on cemex angling under thames anglers conservancy constitution part 1-8

its to much to post on here as well, interest has been far greater on there, than elsewhere

any changes you think, post on there or pm me

john hepworth[chub study group] is setting up website for free and it will be free to run

so our acorn is well planted and well watered,
now we just need you to help tend it

come on folks

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

MAJOR HICCUP FOLKS, FISH LEGAL CANT REPRESENT PROPOSED CLUB, NO LEASE OR LICENSE FROM THAMES WATER, SO NO REDRESS

shall we give up, continue anyway and accept it, or summit else [fathers for justice springs to mind], opinions please chaps

[TF_Waveney One]

I would carry on as a pressure group. It will mean a lot more work for someone though as whoever represents the club will need to do it all rather than use the professional services of fish legal.

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@amushroom wrote:

MAJOR HICCUP FOLKS, FISH LEGAL CANT REPRESENT PROPOSED CLUB, NO LEASE OR LICENSE FROM THAMES WATER, SO NO REDRESS

shall we give up, continue anyway and accept it, or summit else [fathers for justice springs to mind], opinions please chaps

Of course they can represent you , they are the voice of angling. They may not be able to claim compensation etc but you are a member and they are bound to represent your interests , all of the things your looking to do they can help you with , they can assist in lobbying your local MP , they can advise & support you as a pressure group they should be at the forefront of this issue . This is a great story and the Trust should be able to exploit it to the maximum with all their knowledge and a full governing body’s support.Amushroom you have done a great job but don’t give up just yet with the Sports Governing Body behind you things will start to fall into place I’m sure.

[TF_Croydon_Dave]

Sorry,Mushroom, I should have jumped in earlier re Fish Legal/Angling Trust. The “free section” of the Thames belongs to all and so no club can currently lay claim to it otherwise I am sure the LAA for example would have gobbled it up years ago!

That said when I made a big noise a few years ago over a major pollution and appeared on TV, there were legal people out there who were willing to take Thames to court pro-bono for loss of amenity etc.

Unfortunately I made a major loss of data in 2008 and so will have lost the relevant contacts (I have got a back up which MAY have relevant emails but will need to use a clean PC otherwise there is a danger of overwriting my current mail boxes).

Best wishes for 2010 and I think a pressure group could work – anything to prove anglers can fight their corner has to be welcomed

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I am sure the issue here is not loss of amenity but one of pollution , therefore the Trust and Fish Legal should be able to make a big noise about it now one of their affiliated clubs has brought it to their attention . What amushroom needed was the political clout to start a campaign and it would have been very difficult for him to do that off his own bat . Now instead of just the 200 members of the thames club he will have 13,000 members and the backing of Anglings National Body behind him , this is what all the debate on hear has been about and I am sure that on the back of this test case the Trust will go from strength to strength . IMO the trust needs to put all its support and legal knowledge behind this one , then the normal angler / fence sitter will see that the “Voice of Angling” has a true voice.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

waveney one, you have been supporting this idea from the beginning, and its bril.
tweet and croydon dave, thanks for your comments

I am just an insignificant angler, who for the past fourteen days, has committed every day in fits and farts to the idea, of righting a wrong.
support has been fab, and it is that support that has kept me at it, the unifying force throughout has been to see T.W. get its arse kicked,
how that is to be done now I do not know
I can continue to try and generate support, but legalese is like latin to me,
basically if people wish to continue thats great, but the time is approaching when better minds than mine will be needed and without them an ammateur like me will get mullered by T.W.

SO CHAPS WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

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@amushroom wrote:

waveney one, you have been supporting this idea from the beginning, and its bril.
tweet and croydon dave, thanks for your comments

I am just an insignificant angler, who for the past fourteen days, has committed every day in fits and farts to the idea, of righting a wrong.
support has been fab, and it is that support that has kept me at it, the unifying force throughout has been to see T.W. get its arse kicked,
how that is to be done now I do not know
I can continue to try and generate support, but legalese is like latin to me,
basically if people wish to continue thats great, but the time is approaching when better minds than mine will be needed and without them an ammateur like me will get mullered by T.W.

SO CHAPS WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE

amushroom has the club joined the AT yet if so they should be picking this one up mate , that is what all your efforts have been about forming a club having a constituation etc etc , you have proven what can be done on a small scale ( and hats of to you mate ) let the team of specialist solicitors at Fish Legal and the lobbyist at the AT do the rest . This will be a test case but be rest assured the sports governing body will be behind you all the way mate. Just out of interest what dialogue has taken place with yourself and the AT so far. Keep up the good work mate.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

ANYONE GOT A BACK GARDEN ON THE THAMES WE CAN LEASE FISHING RIGHTS FROM

[TF_steve r]

amushroom, the Magna Carta gives the right for people to fish the free stretches of the Thames up to the boundary point at Staines therefore no lease is required to my mind.
It is a law set in stone therefore it can be defended! Try Fish Legal again and remind them of that fact.

PS You can add me to your member list although I’m not likely to fish any of the tidal stretches!

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

have had no official communication with A.T./F.L., awaiting response after crimbo I suppose,
info has come second hand
steve r thanks for offering to join

one other thing; wot about the wandle?

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amushroom wrote:

have had no official communication with A.T./F.L., awaiting response after crimbo I suppose,
info has come second hand
steve r thanks for offering to join

one other thing]

Is the club now a member of The AT ?

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

the club has yet to be formed, but watch this space campers

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

THAMES ANGLERS CONSERVANCY

WE HAVE A WEBSITE FOLKS

check out http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

many thanks john, we all owe you a mahoosive thankyou

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

morning folks, now that we have a website, I’m off to meet the membership officer this morning

very happy days indeed

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

PLEASE VOTE, ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT FORUM ACCESS

setting up po box ,need treasurer to step forward so he can collect mail, if not I will take on role, have been offered help from finance whizz, so it shouldnt be to hard

happy days fellas get onboard

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

as we have an accountant to do books, I will take on treasurers role, the reason being we need P.O.Box asap, treasurer will collect mail,
finances will be posted monthly on club website [transparency], with P.O.Box taking two weeks, we should have club website open mid jan
anyone concur, differ, wish to air concerns, or better still want the job, do so soon

SPREAD THE WORD FELLAS
http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

figured it wouldnt hurt to post some more details;
membership pledges are at fifty,pledges of finance stand at £280, no monies have been asked for, just a pledge to help in the near future,
we have a website http://www.t-a-c.webege.com
although not live yet, it will be the middle of this month,
WHICH MEANS WE WILL BE ACTIVE WITHIN ONE MONTH OF A RADIO CONVERSATION

chaps and chappesses, geezers and geezeresses, ladies and lads, please check out what the fab fifty are trying to do, post criticism, support, ideas or offers of help,
we need them all

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

I am exceedingly pleased to be able to announce
that Dick Hodges of T.A.P.S., has agreed to join the club and will help in any way possible,
he brings with him the 150 years of T.A.P.S. experience and a massive amount of experience in dealing with government, E.A., etc, etc

happy, happy days indeed folks

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

there is no problem with a free club joining A.T./F.L.
S.A.S., surfers against sewage have offered support,
member 52 has pledged £120, bringing the monies pledged total to £400

trying to find london free fishing act of parliament c1754 in the reign of george 2nd
any help much appreciated fellas

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

HAPPY DAYS INDEED FELLAS

anglers mail has story about our club in tomorrows edition
check it out and the club at http://www.webege.com

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

hapy days folks Les Webber mbe, has offered to be a patron to our club
mail story is a bit disappointing, any publicity is good publicity I suppose
squeak soon folks and spread the word

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

still humming the same tune, keeping the same rhythm,banging the same drum

sent form of to royal mail for POBox, sent a postal order by recorded mail for tomorrow, figured that would be quicker to process meaning the website will be operating on the 18th of this month

happy days fellas

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

its now four weeks since this started, in eight days time a club website will be open, membership is over sixty, money pledges total £410, keith arthur is honorary president, les webber mbe is a patron, both angling weeklies are covering our story in next weeks issues, and plans are afoot to take our issues much further
get involved fellas, all it will take is a click on the mouse

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

we had a story in both weekly mags yesterday,
more will follow in next weeks editions, membership at the moment is in the mid sixties,
we have two movers and shakers from the angling world, keith arthur and les webber
but this morning I am pleased to announce that the two have become three, Mr Terry Hearn[carp capturer extaordinaire], has joined our club as a patron
the fantabulous three, very happy days indeed

[TF_MICK THE BOOKIE]

Well done Jim….Keep on banging.Will wait for website to get up and running on the 18th,and then try and get more involved.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

nice one mick, its been hard going on here, but as you know, he who dares rodders, glad youre still in mate and cant wait for the 18th, to have a day off from banging this drum,
many thanks fella, squeak soon

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

two very happy bits of news this morning, firstly we have received our POBox, which means we are definitely open for membership on this monday coming, the 18th
secondly we have received an email from the main man at thames water, offering to meet us and have a tour of mogden sewage treatment works

we’re cooking on a double burner folks,
spread the word, ’cause its free, like joining

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

THAMES ANGLERS CONSERVANCY WILL BE OPEN FOR MEMBERSHIP MONDAY EVENING

http://www.t-a-c.webege.com

many thanks to those that assisted, we wouldnt be here without you

[TF_dingdong]

Well done Jim on your hard work getting this
going.and getting such people like Keith and
Les and others on board~clap ~clap .
You can put me on your member list .

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

nice one ding dong, glad youre onboard
we have a conservation officer as well now, he’s a scientist and should stop thames water from fobbing us of with a load of scientific flim flam

happy days fellas, spread the word and join up

[TF_jaap stam]

Nice work Jim, will join up online monday.

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

the Thames Anglers Conservancy
http://www.t-a-c.webege.com
is open for registration
many thanks to everyone for all their support
in 5 weeks we have gone from an idea to an organisation, you can register to join, but the other sections are still under construction, this will change in the next few days

2010 the year of T-A-C

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

come on chaps, why aint you responding, you aint gotta join, you aint gotta praise, you aint gotta criticise, but you could give us your opinions, there free as well
surely if a dimwit like me can do it,this could be done on a river near you, I’m sure our members would offer there assistance
get on the drums dudes and bang our rhythym

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

you wont be surprised to know that we’re experiencing an occasional problem with registration, if you do not receive confirmation, then please re-apply, us doughnuts are beavering away to solve the problem
2010 the year of T-A-C

[TF_simon pavey]

Check out anglers mail this week. Inside line… page 14~clap

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

yes mate, hope you are happy with it, tried to bang our drum, sing our tune

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

morning folks, have been invited by thames water to attend a meeting between themselves and rowers on 28th at 8pm in putney, anyone want to put their hands up
have also got to arrange the mogden visit, it will be a weekday during working hours, anyone have any preferences
when you register online you should receive confirmation within twelve hrs, if you dont let us know

many many thanks chaps

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

OUR FORUM IS OPEN CHAPS, GET ON IT
we are being asked to become a stakeholder, and am in discuusions about becoming a consultative
I need a bigger brain folks

[TF_amushroomParticipant]

thames anglers conservancy is now fully open,
if you have an interest in fishing the thames, or any rivers that flow into it, or fish a lake close by, what happens on ‘old father’ can affect you to, lets make 2010 the year of TAC

THIS THREAD IS NOW FINISHED

MANY THANKS TO YOU ALL, TOTAL FISHING, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS HELPED

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