The Garbolino 13 foot distance is excellent for distance casting big feeders.

dont think you would want to try and cast 6oz with the garbo nige you might end up with a 6 peice rod lol

I have the 12-8(2) and 14-2(2) PI …..they are sick !….ridiculous distance i get with PI bullet feeders on the Swedish rivers and lakes…..i cast 80metres with ease !!
Alternatively JVC rods are the choice also of many Scandanavian anglers.

quite a few use the tricast legends on places like loch ken and other long chuck venues

Look at the Shakespeare Superteam 12-14 Distance Feeder. It’s a good long distance river rod which I use on the Trent and Wye.

It’ll chuck up to 4 oz without any problems.

Slighty more powerfull is the Superteam 14ft Med Feeder which I used in the Wye Festival. Although rated to 3oz I was chucking 6 oz however chuck is a loose term as it was more of a mid river lob. There is a heavy version however I haven’t seen it but the only place you can get these rods at the moment is Woody’s Tackle in Hereford.

Even with a dedicated carp/barbel rod 6 oz is a big ask but being realistic how often will you need to chuck more than 4oz. If I had to chuck 6 oz and get distance the only rod I’d look at would be a dedicated beach caster.

Hi Dirk

The Tri Cast Triune is a brilliant rod. It’s got an 18 inch piece (removable without breaking down.) so it can be used at 12 or 13’6″. It’s the rod I use for all heavy river work now. I used to use MR3s and didn’t think I’d find a replcement but this is awesome.

Going up the scale you’ve got the Trophy Dutch. This is a right beast. It comes at 14′ and has so much grunt. I haven’t had cause to use it yet but this will be the weapon when it comes to lobbing a church roof around a flooded river. I think this could be the rod for chucking a long way. Both of the above have a couple of softer tips as well if bite recognition at long distance is needed.

You have to break the rod down to change from 12-14 as the rod has 2 butt sections rather than an add on extention

Dunno about 6ozs? All the rods I’ve seen to chuck that sort of weight have been Carp/Salmon convertions and nearly all custom made for Trent Nationals. For my heavy work I use either the 11/13 Daiwa Conny River or for Defcon 3 situations my old Shimano Twin Power Heavy. Frankly, if it needs more weight than they can chuck I’ll take up sea fishing….

Try and find one of the original shimano beastmaster 14ft xx heavy
These are a proper chucking rod and rated to 150gm (5oz)(they also did a xxl at 15ft rated to 180gm)
I used to throw the old coconut type method feeders 100 yd with this rod and it is still the first one out of the bag when I go to loch ken
You can pick one up for about £60

@dirkdiggler wrote:

distance up to 80 metres and casting up to 6oz feeders.

80m = 87yds. If you want to do this with a feeder weighing anything more than 90g I think the Legend 5000 would be more suitable than the 4000. The 4000 isn’t quite powerful enough IMO.

listen to rocketfeeder.
The 4000 isnt up to it. Even if it was borderline to fire a 6oz feeder 90yds ( which it isnt )imagine a 30mph crosswind when u really hav to lay into it!!
The 5000 is def the one to go for, its got bags more guts.
Iv used a pair of them at loch ken for the past 3 yrs.

good luck

If you want to spend that sort of money I would go for the bigger Dutch master feeder rod at 14ft2in. It has twice the power of the 4000 nut isn’t a complete poker like the 5000

I’m in the market for a long range feeder rod, mainly for the method but expect to pick up bream and skimmers as well as carp.

How do these rods compare when catching smaller skimmers, is there enough finesse with them so as not to bummp the fish off when reeling them back?

Got to be an old Daiwa Connoisseur 11-13 Stillwater! Loads go on ebay and nothing better available now!

I saw a bloke using the Browning King Feeder All Seasons rod on the River Yare about 3 weeks ago. He was casting to the far bank with ease, about 50-60 yards across and was catching roach from 2oz and skimmers about a pound

Jan Van Schendel if you can get hold of them.A mate used them in Holland spot on

got a browning cataolog here and just had a look at the feeder rods. the LD rods have got hollow Q tips and changeable balance weights that screw into the butt. they look like a pretty serious bit of kit. one of them is a 15′ rod that will cast 250gr !
From what ive seen in Ireland the dutch and germans do this sort of thing much better than us – just like football.~naughty
not for me cos 30yd is a long chuck at most place I fish nowdays

Hi Lads, a reply to the range of Browning Feeder Rods. These rods are seriously popular on the continent for fishing strong deep rivers and for distance feeder fishing on lakes and stillwaters. I own 3 of the Range and have used all 3 from Ireland to Loch Ken Festivals and also for Northern Reservoirs when I am Roach fishing at long range. The Alls Seasons rod is perfect for short distances of 50-100m and casting weights up to 100grms, and when weather conditions allow. However when casting into a head wind which at Loch Ken etc is often more than not I switch to the 14ft King Feeder, this has the exta backbone to punch a loaded 50-60grm feeder out comfortably to 80-120m with accuracy. These rods were all designed by Matthias Weigang the Winner of the King of Clubs in 2004. The 15ft model was used by Thorsten Beil this year to win the Waterways Classic in Ireland this year and is a beast of a rod. It`s actually the King River Feeder Xtreme and will cast weights of up to 250g. Spare tips, you can choose between holllow tips and standard tips from sizes 1/2oz up to 5oz.

from the sounds of a 15ft rod casting 250gms thats more a beach caster than a bream rod. my grauvell 15ft surf rod, and my century ccc-ld’s are only rated to 200grams, the centurys will pendulum but you wouldn’t be seeing no bream bites with em lol

You have to remember some of these rods have been designed to fish european rivers in Germany and Holland, and these rivers are not for the faint hearted!!! Some serious lead is needed to hold bottom. The casting weights are only as a guide to show what the rods are capable of. The sensitivity of these rods are not compromised either, I use them to great effect for Roach on our Northern Reservoirs/
http://zebco-tv.de/ztv/media.php?type=video&chid=11&title=Browning

It’s funny because in the old days the Dutch and Germans used to use 9ft and 10 ft winklepickers, (they were beefed up compared to those used on the uk market and would have been ideal snake lake method rods).

Once the British Forces Germany lads, (RAF/Army) started bringing 12ft rods across such as the Traverse X they couldn’t compete and were quickly converted.

It seems we are going full circle again with many of the heavy UK rods based on continental counterparts.

just had a look at the zebco link ROPA put on. Its a fishing youtube! cant understand the text but the films are intresting.

After looking at this one think i’ll become a fishing coach-

http://zebco-tv.de/ztv/mediadetails.php?key=866be6cc3d030927439d&title=Girls+on+Cats%3A+Welsdrill
(-;

there also an good one of a river match that loot like the severn but much bigger and faster. they certainley give their poles a bit of stick, and spot the z9’s –

http://zebco-tv.de/ztv/mediadetails.php?key=c8b854ee4304f11a5e7a&title=Browning+Champion%27s+Trophy+2010

the films were dark on my pc until i clicked the union jack at the top.

interesting thread and with the world FIPS feeder champs soon to be introduced , then the pwerful and wide rivers and vast lakes on the continent and gear needed would seem apt given the likely venues.
Are irish loughs and waterways simular/
Can see this type of rod and fishing suddenly becoming more popular nearer and after the inaugural event.
certainly our Tom Pickering should have the experiance to handle the occassion but it certainly will be interesting and probably poularise further this kind of feeder fishing.
I would have thought that sea angling and casting styles actually pretty useful?
More please from anglers who do this – make a good DHP or bauer article as well perhaps?

I have recently got into this bigger chuck/river game. The Tricast 5000 I bought I sold. I didn’t feel the carbon tips were sensitive enough for stillwaters and the eyes were too small. I know it has over fit glass tips and you can buy larger eyed tips. I didn’t achieve the distances I wanted so I bought a Daiwa Conny Z extra power. This suits me better for distance as it has a faster action however Daiwa only do one carbon tip although I modified a Preston DM no.7 tip. Where I am going with this is I haven’t yet found a rod that will chuck big weights long distances and is sensitive enough. I have looked at the Dutch Master and the Shimano Aerocast 14ft where can I find the Browming kings or has anyone got any other suggestions ie any I have missed or European makes.

Squatt – the Drennan tips fit the Daiwa carrier section (or at least they do on my 1989 vintage Harrier 11/13 and my much newer Matchwinner 11/13/15)
However – Can’t guarantee that the action will be perfect!!~think
Also – not sure if they do what you are looking for uin terms of carbon / glass and TC.

squat have a look at the hardy marksman extreme the hollow carbon tips are exellant big eyes the rod itself is 2 piece and very powerful ive been casting 80g feeders +load with ease on loch ken ,unlike most its a pleasure to fish with

I’ve found the Drennan DRX 12′ 10″ method rod pretty good for long distance chucks, it will easily cast 5.5oz feeders. They come with tips up to 6oz and really are powerful. I have one for sale in the classifieds.~clap

@squatt wrote:

I have recently got into this bigger chuck/river game. The Tricast 5000 I bought I sold. I didn’t feel the carbon tips were sensitive enough for stillwaters and the eyes were too small. I know it has over fit glass tips and you can buy larger eyed tips. I didn’t achieve the distances I wanted so I bought a Daiwa Conny Z extra power. This suits me better for distance as it has a faster action however Daiwa only do one carbon tip although I modified a Preston DM no.7 tip. Where I am going with this is I haven’t yet found a rod that will chuck big weights long distances and is sensitive enough. I have looked at the Dutch Master and the Shimano Aerocast 14ft where can I find the Browming kings or has anyone got any other suggestions ie any I have missed or European makes.

Lee , whats your nearest tackle shops mate, I`ll see if they are Browning stockists in the area and try and arrange a rep to show you a few samples. Like I say the tips range from 1/2oz up to 5oz.

ropa, my nearest shop is j&k tackle at bicester in oxfordshire(home) or davies angling in staines(work).

I`ll try and sort something mate, I`ll get back to you.

Thanks ropa, I leave for Holland tomorrow so will be back in UK on the 18th.

Mike what reel do you couple with the Hardy Extreme?

dirkdiggler who stocks the King Feeders please.

DirkDiggler, the rods have been designed for use with wide spooled reels, take a look at the guides on your rod and you will notice they are marginally larger than `Normal` Feeder rods. I use a Browning Force Feeder Extreme reel that have been designed to be used with this range. It has a retrieve of 103cm and a High Speed Gear Ratio of 4.9 : 1. They don`t break the bank either!!!
And remember the 13ft is the `Baby` of the range. I will be taking the 13ft, 14ft and 15ft up to Derwent Reservoir for Rocketfeeder to have a look at on the 14TH Nov if anybody else is interested. I`m running a 70 peg open on there that day!

dendra up to now stradic 6000 but will be borrowing tdr/xtb balzar9000 and having a play, early days but 1st impressions great tool

For reels have just got myself an shimano ultegra 4500 xsb for 99 quid from angling direct. If you’re after a long range feeder reel it’s got to be worth a look. The line lay is simply superb, so flat looks like it’s been ironed on

Cheers Mike, the write up on the Hardy site seems as though they have put some thought into it.

Ive had all the Daiwas and changed over to Tri cast 2 years ago.I used the Legend 4000 with the dutch 1.5 oz tip (big eyes)on Garadice last week. Belter of a rod.Put your back into it and just laughs at you.Only casting 90 grams but 90 plus yards in the proper hands id say (not mine!).
Leigh tackle will custom the legends (ie leave out the softer top section and tips for a reduced price) depends what you want.Well worth the money,last forever

Dutch company.
http://www.spro.nl/catalogus2010/UK/flash.html

Dutch style feeder rods starting here.
http://www.spro.nl/catalogus2010/UK/flash.html#/70/

ropa any news on reps in the Bucks area.

@daveroberts wrote:

Hi Dirk

The Tri Cast Triune is a brilliant rod. It’s got an 18 inch piece (removable without breaking down.) so it can be used at 12 or 13’6″. It’s the rod I use for all heavy river work now. I used to use MR3s and didn’t think I’d find a replcement but this is awesome.

Going up the scale you’ve got the Trophy Dutch. This is a right beast. It comes at 14′ and has so much grunt. I haven’t had cause to use it yet but this will be the weapon when it comes to lobbing a church roof around a flooded river. I think this could be the rod for chucking a long way. Both of the above have a couple of softer tips as well if bite recognition at long distance is needed.

i second that the tri cast triune is without doubt the trojan work horse of all heavy feeder work

I have been using the 13′ Hardy Extreme for a well over a year now and its brilliant rod for distance work. The hollow tips are virtually unbreakable and add at least ten turns to your cast over standard tips. Lots of festival anglers in Ireland are using them now, because of the need to cast further in the clear waters. Hardy are working on a 12’extreme feeder rod that has a slightly softer top section. The carbon used in the blank make it possible to chuck huge distances, yet the rod remains soft enough in the tip section for using braid. Before this something had to be sacrificed when distance fishing. The action of most distance rods do not lend themselves to fishing for roach and skimmers with braid.

Take a look at the Hardy Marksman 13ft Extream distance feeder rod.

http://coarse.hardyfishing.com/en-gb/products/coarse-rods/marksman-feeder-rods/marksman-extreme-13ft-feeder-rod/

@dirkdiggler wrote:

hi all,
i’m looking to buy a distance/river feeder rod.
choices are at the moment,
maver reactorlite 12/13.5 method.
preston dutch master 13.5
does anyone have anything else to add to the list?
tricast maybe?

distance up to 80 metres and casting up to 6oz feeders.

You say that you are interested in the Tri-cast Legend 4000. I have one of these and use it for barbel and chub on the lower Wye. Loads of power for dealing with big, hard fighting barbel. The chucks on the Wye are not huge, generally 30/40 meters is more than enough so I have not tested the range of it. Also the 4000 in the model name refers to 4 oz casting weight. For bigger feeders, unless it is a gentle lob, you will need to go up in the range to the 5000, the Euro or the Dutch models.

Please be aware that the carbon, push in tips on the Legend models are possibly a little stiff for stillwater fishing and so the glass, pushover ones should be used.

I am currently thinking of buying a second Legend 4000 so if anyone has one for sale I am interested.

I agree with Cathal on this rod the 13′ Hardy Extreme Distance feeder rod is a rod that has had a lot of thought gone into its design. After having a play with it in Ireland this year the tweaks have improved on the original prototype i looked at last year. The rod is sheer quality and although very powerful,is still very light and responsive. The hollow quivers are also outstanding with large eyes for shockleader knots on the bigger sizes of tip or for troublesome weed which is a big problem for anglers over here. At least i would recommend you have a look at this rod before you make your mind up.

Who sells the Hardy Extreme in the Derby / Nottingham area???

can anyone advise..

http://www.greysfishing.com/en-gb/find-a-dealer/dealer-splash/?loc=nottsderby&region=31&dealer-page=1

CHEERS~clap