Heard candle wax will help, going to try it myself this year. Also been told lining up the arrows helps, I’ve never bothered in the past. Pushing and twisting has not helped me!

@RobF wrote:

Hi chaps,

I’m after some help please, my no6 and no7 sections on my Daiwa pro keep coming apart when shipping out, Any suggestions what i can do to stop this other than buying new sections,

Cheers.

I think when I picked the no 4 off you Rob, you said it was in mint condition.

I had the same problem when I got my pro, it just needs a bit of time for the sections to wear in together if this makes sense

Mine is fine now and I have no problems with it coming apart

Also I find if I use to rollers, the vibration can cause the sections to come apart

a plumbers solution called tallow much better than candles nathan ?????

@proper tidal boy wrote:

a plumbers solution called tallow much better than candles nathan ?????

I ain’t got any! Is it expensive????????

nathan its cheap just need a friendly plumber, mate ask him for a bit and job done otherwise go to the bank draw some wonger out, and BUY some at the plumbers shop lol LOL

Not as much as a new section!

@proper tidal boy wrote:

a plumbers solution called tallow much better than candles nathan ?????

I know the Fin used to use Tallow on his sections.

Ive had an Airity since November and so far not had any sections come apart i check them every now and then but i did this with my previous Maver and always have done since fishing commies, seen too many topkits flying across lakes over the years lolol!!

People do put sections together differently though,ive seen anglers lightly slip the joint together with the minimum of force, this is asking for trouble imo, ive taken the advice of Daiwa owners to push and twist to lock the joint,
so far so good~think ~think

@NathanWatson wrote:

@proper tidal boy wrote:

a plumbers solution called tallow much better than candles nathan ?????

I ain’t got any! Is it expensive????????

loads in me van £50 to matey~think ~think

My Airity is 3 years old and ive got he opposite effect sometimes its difficult to get appart ! incidently i do break down alot on various sections so the joints are worn.

Candle wax works. Just get a candle , and rub it over the male end of the section like a wax crayon , This will prevent the section from coming apart~clap

my mate has an airity and fishing at 16m last weekend on a lake where you walk over a bridge and fish inside out he was shipping back across the other side of the lake looked round and the 16m 14.5m and 13m section had come apart and were sliding off his roller. he just legged it off his box and jumped in the lake. LOL so hes started taping the sections up now. not really what you want on a top of the range pole.

Diawa have always had that problem with their poles when they are new. the worse bit is having them loose when shipping out and the loose sections breaking.

@RobF wrote:

Thanks for all the advice lads, ill try the push and twist and tallow…..

hi rob how is the pole apart from the sections coming apart.. its a daiwa enough said, think that was the joint where i had the most problem when i had it. dont push and twist to hard, also seen them go the other way on that joint where it wont come apart….. hope your keeping it in good nick mate..
ps my tricast doesnt unship itself … YET LOL

Had Daiwa’s for years and not had them coming totally apart except when brand new. Waxing the male ends of each section has been sufficient.

Just a quick point why shell out 2 grand for a pole just for it to come apart and the only way to stop it doing it is to add wax to the joints?
if that happened to me i would want my money back
just my thoughts any way each to their own ~think

@Cutnut wrote:

Had Daiwa’s for years and not had them coming totally apart except when brand new. Waxing the male ends of each section has been sufficient.

@lump wrote:

@paul1962 wrote:

@lump wrote:

push, twist.

what that man said ~clap

i’m wasting my bandwidth. just push and half a twist. no need for tallow, wax, panther —- or lion love juice. try it.

Tried it, don’t work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

easy,sell the pole and start using that Z9

nowt a bit of sticks like —- wont sort !

Funny that use a Z9 myself lol ~clap ~clap ~clap
dont need to add any wax to the joints either
what does that tell you ?~think

@Fred Davis wrote:

easy,sell the pole and start using that Z9

@Fred Davis wrote:

easy,sell the pole and start using that Z9

Tried the Z9 a couple of times mate and seems good but not used for long as rod was better on the days, stiffer I think and looks stronger, might be a bit heavier though but not sure! Need a bagging session to properly test it and see if it comes apart with repeated slapping! The joints look good though.

ive got a G8 and an Airity never once had sections come apart,push and twist to line triangles up there there for a reason not decoration, no need for wax.Time will tell just how good the z9 is.~think ~think ~think

Time already has, how many second hand 29’s do you see ?

with anglers selling their airity’s and pro x poles just so they can get there hands on one

speaks volumes

nuff said

I have used mostly daiwa poles and still use one as my main pole, however I have never had a daiwa pole that doesn’t come adrift at some point during the day, even with constant checking when shipping in and out and twist and lock, the problem lies in the fact that daiwa joints are a lot shorter Than most other poles in over 40 years of fishing and mainly using daiwa poles this issue has never been properly addressed by daiwa.

if I do upgrade then it wont be another daiwa unless they get there act together. there top end poles have been superceeded in quality of finish, stiffness and balance.

Watch this space think there might be a Z9 sooner than you think. eh Nathan?

Is that the same Nathan that won’t pay for a Korum Quick change bead, the one that that won’t pay for plumbers tallow? If he does sell a Z9 is it because someone gave it to him ?~think

@Waveney One wrote:

Is that the same Nathan that won’t pay for a Korum Quick change bead, the one that that won’t pay for plumbers tallow? If he does sell a Z9 is it because someone gave it to him ?~think

Nobody gives me anything! Compared both side by side yesterday and my used Pro was identical in stiffness to the Z9, new Pro a bit stiffer and felt lighter but Z9 looks stronger and better joints that hopefully won’t come apart with a lot of slapping! I’m going to use the Z9 for, hopefully a few bagging sessions and see if I prefer it to my Pro, then I might sell either the Pros or Z9.

So why all the hype about the Z9?

It is a very good pole, especially for the price and as I said looks strong, reinforced joints and lovely finish and colour!

Whatever anyone says about reglass poles, you just cant beat teflon joints.~clap

Is the Browning made by Reglass?

@NathanWatson wrote:

Nobody gives me anything!

Ahhh! I’ve seen people on here and other sites giving you loads of hassle Nathan ~naughty. They do give you bits and bobs as well though so it is swings and roundabouts.

I do think that you are due a bit of sponsorship though. Maybe you could afford to eat and buy the odd round then :-)!

Sorry,I have had a few bits and bobs sent me from kind members on here and I appreciate that, thanks a lot.

I have also given bits to people too that I don’t need!

Just diesel is taking up half my wages!

Never had a problem with my Spectron, Tourny pro, Tourny Pro X sections coming apart. You guys must put your sections on like women!!!!

As for the z9 being stronger than the pro x? You sure? 2ft of red hydro in my match kits and must have had 100 carp between 10-20lb without any breakages.

The Z9 may be a great pole….but it HAS NOT done the test of time yet.

And Fred…you dont see many sold secondhand because hardly any have sold in comparison to the Pro’s. Thousands and thousands of Tourny Pros sold and still only the odd one comes up for sale.

The Z9 is the best value top end pole on the market. But is it the best? Im not convinced.

Is the Z9 good value though? Because you only appear to get the extra 4th’s ect with the added package, and that bumps the price right up.

@tracix wrote:

Whatever anyone says about reglass poles, you just cant beat teflon joints.~clap

What for wearing out?? My Maver 371 had 3 joints wrapped as they were wafer thin!!!!

nath, if you decide to keep the z9, concider your pro sold matey!!!
ive got £800 sat here with your name written all over it !

@Mikey .J. wrote:

The Z9 is the best value top end pole on the market. But is it the best? Im not convinced.

ask the lads that are selling their tourny pros and airtys to get a Z9 seems to be a few on here that are doing it ~think

@gloves007uk wrote:

@Mikey .J. wrote:

The Z9 is the best value top end pole on the market. But is it the best? Im not convinced.

ask the lads that are selling their tourny pros and airtys to get a Z9 seems to be a few on here that are doing it ~think

How many??

I’ll bet theres more sold/selling their Tourney Pro’s and Airity’s to buy the Pro x and new Airity

here is a few quotes of another thred

“hi lads thinking of selling my airity to buy a z9”

“Just sold my Airity, got a Z9 on order”

“My Z9 doesn’t fall apart like my Airity did”

“No its very light. I was suprised just how light it was feeling the strength of the sections. Felt about the same as my Airity and Pro, just much stiffer”

theres a few matey
as with every thing each to their own

mikey wrote
“And Fred…you dont see many sold secondhand because hardly any have sold in comparison to the Pro’s. Thousands and thousands of Tourny Pros sold and still only the odd one comes up for sale”

Not on e bay mate they have been overloaded with diawa poles on there. Ok a lot of daiwa poles have been sold and yes they were the the biz even if all the top kits have to much bounce even when cut right back,
unfortunately they have been not only superceeded by browning but also by garbolino and sensas in terms of finish stiffness and price.
thats why on our local match scene the number of browning z9’s is beginning to make daiwa look like an also run

@Fred Davis wrote:

mikey wrote
“And Fred…you dont see many sold secondhand because hardly any have sold in comparison to the Pro’s. Thousands and thousands of Tourny Pros sold and still only the odd one comes up for sale”

Not on e bay mate they have been overloaded with diawa poles on there. Ok a lot of daiwa poles have been sold and yes they were the the biz even if all the top kits have to much bounce even when cut right back,
unfortunately they have been not only superceeded by browning but also by garbolino and sensas in terms of finish stiffness and price.
thats why on our local match scene the number of browning z9’s is beginning to make daiwa look like an also run

I’ve never had a problem with bounce on top kits? Only use the match tops by the way.

Nathan wrote

I’ve never had a problem with bounce

Cunning stunt wrote

Someone told me years ago it’s pole bounce when shipping across the rollers.

who’s right only one way to find out

Fight lol

Joking aside a few of the lads have noticed that when kinder cupping they get a bit of bounce on the daiwa poles that they don’t get with the z9, mind you I don’t suppose poles were made origenally to take kinder pots like all things methods evolve before the gear becomes bespoke.

Just to be clear im not in a position to pass judgement on a Z9 as ive not held or seen one, but i am interested to see how good it actually is, unfortunately they havent made it to my neck of the woods yet, same as the Tricast.

One thing though, there is alot made about value and how good it is for the money but i cant work it out~think

In november i paid £2100 for my Airity and that came with 9 match kits as the the Z9 does but included in the package were 4 spare long 4’s,a short 4 and a paralell 4.
The Z9 has none of these and at £150 for a Z9 no4 you are looking at an extra £600 before you find a short 4!!

Add the fact that Daiwa spares are a plenty and i managed to get an extension to 17.5m for 50 quid the Z9 doesnt seem that cheap to me??

Thats my point.

I have changed my trusty G995 for a pro x. There was nothing wrong with the garbo infact i would have another tomorrow but the spares availability worried me and this would , i think be the same with the z9. Great at the moment but in 5 years time will they still be readily available. Daiwa have sold that many pros, x’s aritys etc spares will, i am sure be available for a long time to come either new or second hand due to the sheer volume of numbers sold

the 16 metre z9 comes in at £1750 with ten top kits spare no 4,s are generally purchased from the z7 at 50 each as is a short 4th for £2,200 you get 17.5 metres and 2 4ths and a short 4th + 10 top kits

the airity well you got a deal at £2,100 £2700 is nearer the mark then the 17.5 metre ext they new are well over £200, if bought new the z7 is significantly cheaper, stiffer stronger and glides through the hands better with less bounce in the pole so the sections arn,t continually coming apart, don’t get me wrong both are very good poles the browning is better on price and performance imo
atthe moment I use a daiwa pole however I am due an upgrade and am like many others considering a move to the z9 purely on the issues raised.

as for the garbo it’s too stiff heavy and brittle a good mate who is a tackle shop dealer and has his choice of poles got rid of his g10 as it was too stiff in the wind he just got blown around on his box, he said the pole is just too stiff and doesn’t give, he actually bought the pro x but said he hadn’t looked at the z9. he’s impressed with the pole

@Fred Davis wrote:

the 16 metre z9 comes in at £1750 with ten top kits spare no 4,s are generally purchased from the z7 at 50 each as is a short 4th for £2,200 you get 17.5 metres and 2 4ths and a short 4th + 10 top kits

the airity well you got a deal at £2,100 £2700 is nearer the mark then the 17.5 metre ext they new are well over £200, if bought new the z7 is significantly cheaper, stiffer stronger and glides through the hands better with less bounce in the pole so the sections arn,t continually coming apart, don’t get me wrong both are very good poles the browning is better on price and performance imo
atthe moment I use a daiwa pole however I am due an upgrade and am like many others considering a move to the z9 purely on the issues raised.

as for the garbo it’s too stiff heavy and brittle a good mate who is a tackle shop dealer and has his choice of poles got rid of his g10 as it was too stiff in the wind he just got blown around on his box, he said the pole is just too stiff and doesn’t give, he actually bought the pro x but said he hadn’t looked at the z9. he’s impressed with the pole

LOL £2700 for an Airity! you need some bartering lessons Fred!!

So a like for like 16m package even using £50 quid no4 sections from a lower spec pole is still going to cost me 2 grand????

Its hardly cheap??

I paid 1500 for my Z9 new. It would be far better to compare like for like. The ssp on an airity is 2700 and 1750 on the z9

You dont go off the SSP Dan, next you’ll be saying let’s compare the RRP. Its what you can ACTUALLY get them for as a consumer. If you paid £1500 for the Z9 you must have got it at pretty much trade price. The Pro X is a better pole, let alone the new Airity.

Fred right about the G10, far too brittle. I had one for a few weeks and then got rid. To hold it is the best and stiffest pole on the market. To fish with it is a joke and breaks if a fish farts near it. I was afraid to strike it was that easily broken.

@Mikey .J. wrote:

You dont go off the SSP Dan, next you’ll be saying let’s compare the RRP. Its what you can ACTUALLY get them for as a consumer. If you paid £1500 for the Z9 you must have got it at pretty much trade price. The Pro X is a better pole, let alone the new Airity.

It wasnt trade, thats the cash price i paid fot it at fishermans friend. And just to clarify i had a Pro for five years before the z9. In my opinion the z9 is a better pole. The pro is a good pole buy in my opinion its a bit dated and overpriced now. I actually went to fishermans friend to buy an airity but was dissapointed that it wasnt much of a step up from the pro. After seeing the z9 there was no comparison in my mind.

Dan knows his onions my mate also went to buy an airity having had virtually every pole out there, joes had the g10, mavers diawa’s etc etc and changes his poles every 6 months, any way I told him about the z9 so he went and placed the poles side by side, he came out with the Z9 he said the difference was quite pronounced he thought the z9 was stiffer, crisper and felt stronger, with Joe he’s a single lad who buys what he wants when he wants moneys not a problem,I keep waiting for him to buy another pole hoping I might get his z9 cheap, not a chance he’s had it near on over a year and looks like he will hang on to it for a bit longer, DOH

As said, each to their own but i think money wise we have ascertained that after all the hype the Z9 with a few no 4’s is going to cost roughly the same as most other top end poles.

You pays your money and takes your choice

at the end of the day you have to use what feels right for you, it’s no use buying a model of pole that you feel awkward using, be that whatever make or model.Best advice I can give is go to pole alley or better still try a few poles on the bank, take your time and buy whats right for your needs, everyone has a different veiw because they choose the pole that feels right for them

Reading all these posts it’s clear that Fred’s last statement is right, buy what you feel is best for you.

The only people getting good deals are those who are buying second hand (like me)off people who look after their gear.

16m spectron – in excellent condition been using for four yrs and still using it weekly

16m Torny Pro again excellent condition for less than the specci, only used twice in two yrs

16m M2 again in excellent condition only used once

16m 811 again in excellent condition for use by grandson now he’s keen.

All four with 10 No4, 5 No5, 24 match t3 and 32 PT2 cost me less than one new tournament.

Yes I like my Diawa’s