nothing apart from design and colours.

Difference? I;d say the tourny is probably made form Gore tex, whereas the chinese one probabaly won’t be – lot of fake Gore tex on ebay – price looks too good to be true…search on web for fake ebay goretex ~naughty

Sorry if hijacking the thread, but are the gore-tex clothes worth the money? Bought some sensas iceland, but they leaked horrendously yesterday and nathans will replace or allow me to choose something else. Very tempted by the new sensas goretex, but they are over twice the price…..are they worth it?

Gore TeX is just the membrane between layers. Outdoor clothing tends to come in various forms, from very light soft shell through to extreme heavy duty pro shell.
The difference in price is often because each design is different according to the requirements. For example, you can pick up a lightweight jacket and trousers for light tracking work fairly cheaply, as it will pack away into a very small bag and not be made of a great deal. Whereas heavy duty polar wear will be far more robust with extra layers and linings and made from far more durable fabrics.

Don’t think that all garments that contain gore TeX membrane are the same. You will probably find that the daiwa clothing has been specifically designed for certain situations using a blend of materials to suit.

Yes gore tex is worth it. The membrane is tested by stacking water against it, this column of water is measured and is called the hydrostatic head. Gore tex is far superior to any other commercially available membrane and is almost double the legal requirement to call clothing waterproof. It is also breathable which is vital in order to keep you warm and dry. However it is not 100% waterproof, nothing is and you need to care for it and help it by ensuring you keep the outer layer treated. This will help with the water beading and running off which in turn will help keep you dry.

Goretex is now over 30 years old!!

OK it is good and I have a fishing jacket made from it by Halkon Hunt that is over 10 years old and is still 100% waterproof. However I have plenty of other jackets that are made from more recent materials than Gortex which no doubt are similar without impinging on the patent taken out by Robert Gore, Rowena Taylor, and Samuel Allen in 1980. They are just as waterproof. Whatever football managers say there is nothing greater than 100% waterproof which these others are!

As for paying through the nose to advertise someone else’s product than people must be more fashion conscious than sensible in my view. Most people advertising would expect to pay to put their logos on buses or peoples tops, but not in the ‘fashion’ trade. The mugs, sorry punters, pay through the nose to advertise on their behalf.

Old and grumpy, that’s me!

cheers for the info and advice, can see both points. Will have to try and find out what sort of material the sensas stuff is made from before deciding what to get.

you have to ask yourself,which colour would i want to be seen getting wet in?,blue(daiwa) or green(sensas).nothing else matters.
it wouldn’t be no where near as good looking in some better made cheaper suit without a tackle name on it.

would it???

p.s. mines tournament blue.and they’re brill.lol.

Watched this thread with interest. I have recently brought gore tex for the first time. the trousers now need a wash as they are covered in fish slime and groundbait.

My question is. What is the best way to wash them to help keep there waterproofing??

Follow the manufacturers guidelines or have a look on the Gore tex website. If byou want to re-proof the outside use Nikwax.

Who makes Daiwa goretex? halkon hunt. You can have it in whatever colours you like and made to measure if you call them direct

Old and Grumpy he may be … but Waveney One speaks much truth!!

What criteria are important to you?
My list is
waterproof – waterproof enough to not leak when sitting on a wet seat box.
breathable – as I fish venues with some long walks where I do perspire ….. if you are just fishing carp puddles that may not apply!
design – simple with minimum zips etc that may cause leaks – but a good hood
durability – able to take hard knocks whilst clambering down river banks
weight / pack size – as I hope that i will be carrying, rather than wearing them !

gore-tex as a waterproof membrane only really helps with breathability, other factors are down to the manufacturer and face fabrics used.
There are many other waterproof membranes or coatings that are as waterproof and breathable, such as EVent.

If you are not too bothered about branding – I’d pop down to a TK Maxx – where you can pick up some real bargains at the right time.

Regarding Care – the water repellency of the outer fabric helps to maintain breathability and therefore the transport of sweat away from the body. Nikwax TX Direct is very effective for re-proofing and also easy to use.

I endorsed Waveney One’s post earlier but it disappeared during the site metamorphosis.

Plenty of Goretex alternatives now, the Berghaus Aquafoil clothing has been just as good in my experience and is about half the price.

go outdoors for me
goretex berghaus paclite bottoms @ £80
goretex sprayway jacket £40
im no halkon hunt you know !!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

I agree that there are other membranes available that are at least as good as Goretex, but in fairness to Goretex you don’t find it in poorly manufactured clothing, unless it’s a fake. So the critical seams are well sealed which enhances the company’s reputation for quality.
The other critical area is the ‘cut’. I have in the past bought very good waterproof jackets from TK Maxx but they tend to be designed for other sports. Skiing salopettes don’t make good fishing bib and braces for example. Although I much prefer to wear my labels on the inside I’m more comfortable, if slightly embarrassed, fishing in my latest ‘Man at Garbolino’ outfit that’s designed for the job. I’m sure that’s why those who can afford Halkon Hunt are so pleased with it.

surely goretex for any other sports is good enough for fishing ??
skiing = movement / activity hot / cold
fishing = sat on arse for 5 hours
and in my case very very still

I’m sure clothing for other sports will do for fishing but stuff designed for fishing will be better. As you say, skiing = movement/activity hot/cold, fishing = sat on arse for 5 hours. So salopettes are slimmer in the leg and have an extra snow guard round the ankle, which is a nuisance for fishing, and my fishing bib & b’s have a reinforced arse, and knees (for when I’m praying for a bite) .

I ski/snowboard too, have good quality waterproofs for the purpose. They are not suitable for fishing really. The fabrics aren’t cut in the sort of way where they would be as confortable. Maybe a pair of goretex trousers instead of over trousers…..

but, ski wear in goretex is the same kind of price as fishing stuff anyway. It’s only when it’s in tk maxx, or in an end of season sale, that you will pick it up for less than fishing stuff. The colours tend to be very bright too, hardly for fishing, and the clothes are made for seriously cold weather, like -10 or colder with wind chill, so probably wouldn’t be much use in a summer thunder storm, as you’d be sweating like mad underneath. Alot of the clothes are padded, nice in winter but not for most of the year.

TK Maxx don’t just sell ski gear – they also sell outdoors gear that would be more suitable in weight / insulation, cut and colour.
However, it is very hit and miss in terms of stock.
And you need to know a bit about qality of brands and alternative materials.

I prefer overtrousers to Bib & Brace and I’m on the slim side – so the cut is less vital for me.
But the fishing brands do score in terms of robust face materials.

But my main points remain
a) Gore-Tex is only one option of many waterproof materials
b) You can save money by not buying fishing brands if the features of the product suit you