think from what ive heard you are probably about right! when i fished for england i had to fund myself but that was about 20 years ago, if we could get more anglers to join the angling trust then maybee our national teams would get more backing! sponsorship is getting harder and harder to find hopefully the angling trust will be true to our sport and help team fishing in every shape and form helping all our national teams and the winter league!

The winnings from the fishomania home international were supposed to part fund all the England international teams. I suppose it’s a massive amount required in total to fully fund all the teams. The Disabled team must have got some subsidy surely?

The juniors still have to fund their own trips and gear.

One young lad has just been out to italy at great cost his parents and didn’t fish either day.

It is not cheap representing your country by the looks unless your in the senior team but then I suppose they get all the headlines so who would you sponsor?

Hopefully one day they’ll all get the backing they deserve.

Its very wrong how things run,look at the england football squad!!
get everything paid for!

Lets hope it changes and like you say,They get the backing they need 😉

so anglers should join the angling trust so that the various england teams can have a good jolly up at it’s members expense? no wonder membership is dwindling

Rather than advocate the above anglers should be encouraged to join the angling trust for the right reasons, and maybe funding from sport england or the lottery should fund competing individuals, or god forbid they could always fund themselves, fishing for england should be an honour not a god given right to a load of freebies.

As regarding the England Disabled team fishing for their country, the team have not had a yearly sponsorship for some for time, they have to pay for them selves plus an helper if they need one, these disabled anglers deserve a medal, has i should imagine they will be on benefits anyway, so £1800 plus other expenses out of their own pockets will be an hardship. Can,t afford a weeks practice to get methods, rigs, ect right, No wonder we don,t get many medals. Do the the other disabled teams have the same problems as england disabled teams ???

@Fred Davis wrote:

so anglers should join the angling trust so that the various england teams can have a good jolly up at it’s members expense? no wonder membership is dwindling

Rather than advocate the above anglers should be encouraged to join the angling trust for the right reasons, and maybe funding from sport england or the lottery should fund competing individuals, or god forbid they could always fund themselves, fishing for england should be an honour not a god given right to a load of freebies.

I don’t normally disagree with you Fred but Sport England will only fund angling to any large extent if it is seen to be supported by the the anglers themselves. They support sports that are proven to be supported by the participants. That is why Sport England survey the general public every year and ask what sports they participate in. The surveys done specifically asked the question what ACTIVEsports people participated in. Most anglers don’t bother to include angling as few consider it to be an Active Sport. However the latest survey shows angling to be 20th on the list with a participation of 0.17%. This isn’t helped when people don’t buy rod licences either, so we can’t say but X million anglers bought a licence last year. The survey doesn’t include anglers who only go infrequently either. They like to tick sports off into little boxes. Sport England also concentrate upon competitive sports and whilst angling may be large overall, the competitive side of the sport is only small. Angling as a sport and anglers in particular are not the sort of people who like to be pigeon-holed hence the lack of support for the Angling Trust hence no Government support for our internationals.

Source http://www.sportengland.org/research/active_people_survey/active_people_survey_5/aps5_quarter_two.aspx

Anyway, back to the original the point of the thread, yes it is a shame that the England Teams have to pay their own way or at least raise funds themselves. I know times are hard but there are still plenty of people who make a lot of money out of angling.

a really good response mate 😉

Quite agree waveney one however you can’t blame sport england for not supporting match angling if we havern’t got our house in order, I think it was Keith Arthur who a few years ago advocted that match anglers becoming professionals in much the same fashion as golfers, big events such as fishomania attract audiences which is why sky tv have got it right with fishomania. With hindsight I think Keith’s veiw point was spot on although at the time (a few years back) I didn’t think so, fishing the div 1 nationals with the postal side who were banned to accept any sponsor ship from any firm because of the Royal Mail tag I felt Keiths veiw excluded a lot of very good anglers who were fishing the nationals, I for one don’t think the angling trust should be there to sponsor anglers who fish at england or international level, they are there as our governing body match fishing only being a very small part of the anglers it represents. If competative angling can move to a more professional level, then maybe with big matches will come investment, at the moment sky fishomania is leading the way. Match Angling has never been a cheap sport especially if you want to compete at top level

I agree with you Fred in that I wouldn’t want my Angling Trust subs to sponsor the international teams. What would be great though is to have enough support from anglers for the Angling Trust that Sport England would sit up and take notice of us then give angling enough money that would enable all the teams to be paid for out of that money or at least 50/50 with commercial sponsors. If there was enough support for the Angling Trust then commercial sponsors wouldn’t be a problem either. As it is, the knockers just whine on about the Trust, knocking it from within angling, making it very difficult to convince anybody that angli9ng should be taken seriously.

I cannot think of any other sport where England has had such a good record as a team and as individuals over the last few years. Indeed, if it were any other sport then I am sure the Government would be pouring money in even though it apparently had a minority interest.

Having said all that we are where we are and it is scandalous that the disabled team couldn’t find sponsorship. What about all the companies that take loads of money from the Government for equipment for the disabled? Subsidised cars, wheelchairs, orthopaedic beds, chairlifts, goodness knows what else. They must make loads of money as far as I can see, why don’t they put money up? At the end of the day in their budgets it would be peanuts.

what really gets me is that the commercial fisheries could become a unifed force in promoting a more pro approach all matches club or open anglers to be angling trust registered members, I see that at least one fishery is taking a stance on anglers having a rod licence, I play a lot of table tennis to keep fit, however to play in the leaque or any leaque I have to be an ETTA member,only £6 mind, but no pay no play, why we can’t have it compulsory that all anglers who fish matches (club or open) and thats any match are AT registered is beyond my belief, the angling administrators have it in there own hands to make a proffessional body with a voice but there is no unified agreement to do it, if the angling trust was to lower it’s price to a more reasonable level membership who would argue at compulsory membership if a fiver or tenner a year if you want to fish matches, still nothing changes lessons are not learn’t and the attitude why should I pay when I don’t fish nationals or fishomania qualifiers is previlent. Angling seems to amble on I would think that what was the ACA see’s less money now as a part of the AT as it did when it was a lone organisation