Browning Z12

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- 13/10/2011 at 5:34 pm #49117
  TF_gloves007uk
  Had a wiggle with the new Z12 yesterday at the coalmans cottage Browning UK meeting.
  the pole its self is awsome with some clever desgin concepts added into the pole.
  Some of the team captains had a play with it whislt the rest of us were fishing they had it up next to an airty the feed back was it was lighter as well as stiffer than the airity.
  All the match kits, power kits, tension pulla kits are the same length. Certain sections have a re-enforced part to them, to help with braking down sections and not getting that spongy feeling from the section when say braking down from the no5 section upwards (like you do get with some poles on the market)
  Also comes with 3 re-enforced butt/strike sections that can be used from 6 meters upwards to protect the section its added to.
  Overall a very good pole think of a Z9 well this pole is a Z9 on drugs and will give any flag ship pole on the market a run for its money and more
- 13/10/2011 at 10:04 pm #149898
  TF_fourcanals
  how much gloves?
- 14/10/2011 at 7:13 am #149906
  TF_kev825
  any idea how much it will hit the shops for??
- 14/10/2011 at 4:39 pm #149924
  TF_gloves007uk
  The suggested retail price is as follows
  
  Z12 standard package
  16m pole
  section 5/6 pole protector
  section 7/8 pole protector
  section 9/10 pole protector (extends pole to 16.8m)
  1X power 3rd section
  1X short D section
  8X SLK’s in your choice of tip diameters, Tension pullas or standard
  SLK cupping kit with 3 cups
  Full zipped hardcase holdall
  £2499
  
  Z12 professional package
  17.5m pole
  section 5/6 pole protector
  section 7/8 pole protector
  section 9/10 pole protector (extends pole to 18.6m)
  2X power 3rd section
  2X short D section
  10 X SLK’s in your choice of tip diameters, Tension pullas or standard
  SLK cupping kit with 3 cups
  Full zipped hardcase holdall
  £2999
  
  Almost certain that all top kits come pre bushed with internal bushes as well so no need to mess around cutting kits down having to bush them and all that
  
  More info can be found here
  http://www.browning-fishing.com/Catalogues.html
  
  Not going to be everyones cup of tea due to the price but if your after some thing special this is the one. 😀
- 14/10/2011 at 6:43 pm #149935
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  Beat me to it Gloves……………..lol
  
  Yes all top kits come pre bushed with internals fitted, all top kits are 2 peice, 2.6m long so no need to cut anything back to suit as yoiu have the choice of top kits >
  
  3.0mm – Ultramatch for solid elastics up to No6
  3.9mm – Match for solid elastics up to no12 and light hollows
  4.5mm*– Carp for solid elastics up to No16 and medium hollows
  5.5mm*– Carp XL heavy, large diameter hollows
  • all pre-bushed with top-quality internal PTFE bush
  • available as standard or (*) in our unique 2 hole Tension Puller
  versions (see page B13 for info)
  • matching SLK cupping kit of exactly the same length
  
  Strengthened stress points – designing out weakspots
  • Strengthened grip and elbow areas on lower sections resist
  crushing when unshipping
  • Carbon overwrapped male and female joints resist
  premature wear and chipping
  • Increased hoop strength at joints for easy un-shipping
  under load.
  • Packs include Evolution power 3rd sections, extra
  strength for demanding situations.
  
  Ta
- 14/10/2011 at 7:29 pm #149939
  TF_lump
  it’s all gotten a bit Sensassy. ie confusing with the tops. one reason i bought a Z9 was because it was all so simple and no-nonsense. I’m all for choice though.
  
  Now, about these “weakspots”..i haven’t found any on mine. is there something i should know?
- 15/10/2011 at 9:52 am #149960
  TF_gloves007uk
  @lump wrote:
  
  Now, about these “weakspots”..i haven’t found any on mine. is there something i should know?
  
  Not at all mate
  my Z9 has landed some right lumps and the pole has stood up to challenge of landing these fish with no problems.
  With fish getting bigger in matches these days its bound to put more stress on a pole (just look at the size of fish that are in Viaduct and Carey lake it’s not called scary cary for no reason lol)
  I didnt have any imput into the pole its self all I can think of is that Browning have identified certain stress points on the pole when saying trying to land a fish 20lb+ and have strengthen them up to safe guard against breakages deliverying a pole that is not only light and stiffl but will also stand the test of time fishing on a canal fishing for bits or on a commerical fishery fishing for 20lb+ carp and catching large weights.
- 15/10/2011 at 10:51 am #149962
  TF_Baku Blanker
  Participant
  Stiffer stronger better Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn they always are :confused: :confused: :confused:
- 15/10/2011 at 11:13 am #149963
  TF_Simon P
  Arnt the Z9 & Z12 made by reglass???…….
  
  Just another Maver pole!! :confused:
- 15/10/2011 at 12:55 pm #149964
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  No Simon they are not !!
- 15/10/2011 at 1:19 pm #149966
  TF_Simon P
  @Big Finn wrote:
  
  No Simon they are not !!
  
  Humm…… you are the man that would know HOWEVER when questioning various large Browning dealers about the Z9 i was told that the pole was made with Nanolith Technology and comes out of the Reglass factory!!! :confused: :confused:
- 15/10/2011 at 1:44 pm #149967
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  I can tell you they are 100% not made out of the Reglass factory mate.
  
  They are made with the Nano Carbon Technology though but defo not Regalss made !!!
  
  Trust me 😉
- 15/10/2011 at 3:08 pm #149971
  TF_gloves007uk
  @Baku Blanker wrote:
  
  Stiffer stronger better Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn they always are :confused: :confused: :confused:
  
  Thing is mate this one is 😀
  some very clever desgin features made into this pole.
  its really is some thing speical
  Baku Blanker it will be out end of this year get yourself to a tackle shop that is a Browning dealer and have a wiggle with one mate 😀
  
  As for other comments as Big Fin says the pole is not produced in the Regalss factory
- 15/10/2011 at 3:36 pm #149972
  TF_Simon P
  @Big Finn wrote:
  
  I can tell you they are 100% not made out of the Reglass factory mate.
  
  They are made with the Nano Carbon Technology though but defo not Regalss made !!!
  
  Trust me 😉
  
  After hearing such good reports about the Z9, i phoned around for prices i dont understand WHY i was told this by Browning Dealers…..
  
  Either which way it put me off purchasing one, had too many issues with Maver in the past!!!
  
  Big Finn…. i trust you! 😮
- 15/10/2011 at 7:30 pm #149980
  TF_gloves007uk
  @Simon P wrote:
  
  @Big Finn wrote:
  
  I can tell you they are 100% not made out of the Reglass factory mate.
  
  They are made with the Nano Carbon Technology though but defo not Regalss made !!!
  
  Trust me 😉
  
  After hearing such good reports about the Z9, i phoned around for prices i dont understand WHY i was told this by Browning Dealers…..
  
  Either which way it put me off purchasing one, had too many issues with Maver in the past!!!
  
  Big Finn…. i trust you! 😮
  
  Fishermans friend were doing them for £1400 mate might be worth a look there if you havnt alrady
- 15/10/2011 at 8:08 pm #149981
  TF_rik_j
  They are made in the far east, as is most of the other gear we are using.
  
  I’m on the reglass bandwagon right now, but can’t fault the Z-series from Browning. I’m however curious to see the solution they’ve chosen for the tips, the idea with various diameter kits of equal length is not bad.
- 15/10/2011 at 11:11 pm #149985
  TF_gloves007uk
  @rik_j wrote:
  
  They are made in the far east, as is most of the other gear we are using.
  
  I’m on the reglass bandwagon right now, but can’t fault the Z-series from Browning. I’m however curious to see the solution they’ve chosen for the tips, the idea with various diameter kits of equal length is not bad.
  
  Gone of the days of having to cut down a top kit to make them the same length buddy which saves messing around (already pre bushed)
  
  Its no means a sales pitch (not a rep just sponsored) but when I got hold of the pole I was blown away with the design features and how much time had been spent and thought had been put into this pole.
  For any one buying a new pole that is looking for only the best it is one that should be considered 😀
- 17/10/2011 at 4:47 pm #149952
  TF_fadd1st
  Does anyone know if the new dual short butts fit existing z poles IE 7 & 9.
- 18/10/2011 at 9:28 am #150061
  TF_Baku Blanker
  Participant
  Gloves 007uk the have got a long way to go and it was easy to be stiffer and lighter than the Z9 IMO
- 18/10/2011 at 1:12 pm #150068
  TF_NathanWatson
  Sounds like Daiwa Multi Bores that are crap!
  
  Anyway, what’s the address for Browning to send my 2 Z9 smashed extensions back to that broke 1st time I tried it at 17.5M? 😡
- 18/10/2011 at 4:00 pm #150071
  TF_mart4666
  just out of interest nathan, were the section (s) you broke a dedicated 17m section ie extension or was it a 2nd 16m section?? not that it should make any difference in my opinion as both should be strong. another interesting point is that my local dealer repairs poles and he reckons the Z9 is by far and away the no1 of pole sections that he repairs. but then again they are quite popular in the area. guess browning have seen fit to iron out any glitches and weak points which results in a heavier overall weight of the Z12.
- 18/10/2011 at 4:11 pm #150073
  TF_NathanWatson
  They are the same thing, says 16/17.5M on them mate.
- 18/10/2011 at 4:27 pm #150074
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  @fadd1st wrote:
  
  Does anyone know if the new dual short butts fit existing z poles IE 7 & 9.
  
  Fadd1st………………..Only the 5/6 protector will all the Xitan poles (apart from Z7.5) and this fits onto the 6th and 7th section, the other 2 protectors fit the Z12 only.
  
  Thanks
- 18/10/2011 at 4:29 pm #150075
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  @NathanWatson wrote:
  
  Sounds like Daiwa Multi Bores that are crap!
  
  Anyway, what’s the address for Browning to send my 2 Z9 smashed extensions back to that broke 1st time I tried it at 17.5M? 😡
  
  Nathan – They are not like the Multi Bores and these are not crap 😀
  
  Can you not take them back to the shop you got them from and they will send them back for you?
- 18/10/2011 at 4:34 pm #150076
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  Z12 is actually only 60g heavier than the Z9. 🙂 😉
- 18/10/2011 at 4:52 pm #150078
  TF_NathanWatson
  Didn’t get it from a shop mate, got it off a bloke that got it as part of an insurance claim and decided to sell. Gave it to a lad that fishes for a Browning sponsored team to send back but he let me down and I got the sections back last week! Told me I need to send them to Germany, that’s gonna be pricey!? 🙁
- 18/10/2011 at 5:43 pm #150081
  TF_Big Finn
  Participant
  Bleeding ell, not sure which way to approach it to be honest mate, i will ask the question to my leaders in Germany and fire you a PM with the outcome.
  
  How long have you had them?
- 19/10/2011 at 9:06 am #150103
  TF_NathanWatson
  Got it early this year, hardly used it, liked it at 16M but as I said, 1st time at 17.5 it kept snapping and it was a big match, cost me money!
- 19/10/2011 at 2:26 pm #150085
  TF_Rossn
  Hey Nathan, when you send those sections to Germany you could send the 4th and 5th sections from the Z9 that you sold me 😮 . Both broken on fish (separate occasions).
  
  I do wonder about the fragility of any pole where people advise you to fit different replacement sections (usually from the Z7.5). Surely that just makes the next biggest section the new weak point that’s gonna break as soon as you try and stop a carp reaching a snag ?
- 19/10/2011 at 2:52 pm #150109
  TF_NathanWatson
  Oh dear, sorry to hear that! Yeh, send em over and I’ll send em all together if you like?
- 19/10/2011 at 10:07 pm #150133
  TF_fourcanals
  No doubt the browning rep will pick up your post Nathan and will give you a satisfactory answer and replacement.I had an issue with three top kits snapping when i bought my z9 18 months ago The rep was excellent (forgot his name) and sent me the replacements plus a couple of power top kits as an apology. Not used the power kits at length but has several big weights on the standard pmks
- 22/10/2011 at 6:07 pm #150258
  TF_John E
  im really trying hard to find info on this pole.
  im not fishing for carp, but only natural waters.
  and im about to go for a Browning pole from a Sensas 4 series
  
  first off:
  These pole end protectors is it so that they are meant to fit between the sections up the rod like the sensas 6/7 to minimise the downforce instead of using a regualr dolly to achieve length? or are they simply dollys ment for using the rod at shorter lengths?
  
  second:
  how long down the Z12 does Z9 parts fit?
  im asking because my bunch of ultra expensive super compettition sensas top5 fits the Z9
  and even the top6 does so,
  
  basicly what im trying to accomplish is a 13m rod able to cope with a no.8 solid elastic with as little downforce as possible, and i dont mind chopping some of the bottom section.
- 22/10/2011 at 9:04 pm #150266
  TF_lump
  @John E wrote:
  
  im really trying hard to find info on this pole.
  im not fishing for carp, but only natural waters.
  and im about to go for a Browning pole from a Sensas 4 series
  
  first off:
  These pole end protectors is it so that they are meant to fit between the sections up the rod like the sensas 6/7 to minimise the downforce instead of using a regualr dolly to achieve length? or are they simply dollys ment for using the rod at shorter lengths?
  
  second:
  how long down the Z12 does Z9 parts fit?
  im asking because my bunch of ultra expensive super compettition sensas top5 fits the Z9
  and even the top6 does so,
  
  basicly what im trying to accomplish is a 13m rod able to cope with a no.8 solid elastic with as little downforce as possible, and i dont mind chopping some of the bottom section.
  
  que? at 13m the Z9 is as stiff as anything i’ve seen or used. why are you so concerned with downforce?
- 23/10/2011 at 5:12 am #150270
  TF_John E
  because there is a difference in picking out small roach and skimmers at a rate of up to 3 fish a minute and cupping maby each 5-10 minutes for a full 4hour match at 13m, to sitting with a pole in the spraybar waiting it out in a carppuddle.
- 23/10/2011 at 5:02 pm #150277
  TF_lump
  @John E wrote:
  
  because there is a difference in picking out small roach and skimmers at a rate of up to 3 fish a minute and cupping maby each 5-10 minutes for a full 4hour match at 13m, to sitting with a pole in the spraybar waiting it out in a carppuddle.
  
  it’ll do that till the cows come home.
- 24/10/2011 at 12:28 pm #150293
  TF_NathanWatson
  @John E wrote:
  
  because there is a difference in picking out small roach and skimmers at a rate of up to 3 fish a minute and cupping maby each 5-10 minutes for a full 4hour match at 13m, to sitting with a pole in the spraybar waiting it out in a carppuddle.
  
  Most good carp matchmen don’t do that! 😮
- 24/10/2011 at 4:13 pm #150297
  TF_poleangler
  @John E wrote:
  
  because there is a difference in picking out small roach and skimmers at a rate of up to 3 fish a minute and cupping maby each 5-10 minutes for a full 4hour match at 13m, to sitting with a pole in the spraybar waiting it out in a carppuddle.
  
  Where do you fish 4 hour matches :confused: :confused:
- 30/10/2011 at 5:57 pm #150518
  TF_John E
  i fish in denmark
- 31/10/2011 at 4:17 pm #150565
  TF_Wagandmag
  If all the top sections are the same length with differing size bores at the end, does this mean that the bigger the bore the stonger the section.
  For those that have seen them, what top would you need for a double 5.
  Hope this makes sense
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