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    • #51377

      TF_piperpilot

        In central London today buildings being washed down with Impunity. Hoses pressure washers the lot. By all accounts all the bans are for Domestic users ONLY. Yet again corrupt mega bucks big business gets away with it, Why the F**K should I let my garden die because of these arrogant scumbags,

      • #157575

        TF_geepster
        Participant

          I agree it’s a scandal but the rivers are running lower than I have ever seen them down south and surely two wrongs don’t add up to a right?

        • #157604

          TF_Waveney One

            As you say it is a farce. You can’t wash your car using a hosepipe but can drive to the nearest car wash and put it through there with impunity. Keith Arthur has said on many an occasion, there are just too many people living in the South East. Geeps has it right though, the rivers are at a critical level around here in Suffolk but the reservoirs are full.

            Our local paper today has the headline ‘DIY water supply’ and goes on to say that specialist drilling firms have seen a dramatic leap in business. A borehole can supply up to 20,000 litres of water a day without any permission or licences from the EA. Who checks whether 20,000 or 200,000 litres a day is pumped up? Surely these bore holes affect the aquifers that feed our our rivers and lakes. Isn’t it about time that the Environment Agency stopped this. Full story http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk_business_booms_for_borehole_firms_as_demand_for_do_it_yourself_water_supplies_soar_1_1350700

          • #157605

            TF_Kagger TNB

              Hosepipe ban?

              What hosepipe ban?

              Anglian water provide me with my water. Surely if they want to change the terms of my service they should write to me and tell me.

              I’m on a meter and pay for exactly what I use.

              My garden won’t be dying any time soon.

              And anyway, the clowns that have been running this country have let immigration go unchecked for how many years?

              We have a housing problem, the roads are congested, people cant get their kids into schools, the NHS can’t meet the demands made on it’s service, and, apparently, there’s a drought on and we dont have enough water.

              Or is it all just media propaganda?

            • #157610

              TF_NoCarpPlease

                I can’t believe that ANY angler is advocating wasting water …… the rivers east of the Severn are in a severe state.

                The situation is only going in one direction in the medium / longer term (global climate change means less consistent rain patterns – and we need the old fashioned lots of drizzle).

                The country (personal and business) needs to commit to lower water usage (alongside lower energy consumption). Do we wait for the idiot politicians to tell us how to do it, or do we grasp the mettle as responsible human beings?

                Remember, the best plan the powers can come up with is to pump water along the cansls …. well that’ll be great for the ecosystems of the canals then!!

                Most sensible thing would be to stop the absurd concentration of all resources in the south east (as several have poitned out above).

              • #157612

                TF_ajg3151
                Participant

                  3/4 of the surface of the earth is covered by water, we are a small island surrounded by? yep water, what the fuxx

                • #157614

                  TF_feeder

                    strange that the canary isles have enough water to turn on the roadside filters to keep the palm trees and flowers watered on there little islands.but we being an island cannot supply water to our customers.what a joke 😡 😡

                  • #157615

                    TF_Anthonywaters
                    Participant

                      More river dredging needed to get them lower into the water tables and less emphasis on ” business use” The wheely bin cleaner at our end pressure washing bins today, yet at my caravan 70 miles away hosepipe ban and people cant water their plants, rest my case….. washing out wheely bins as opposed to plant sales in this economic climate !!!!

                    • #157617

                      TF_Tommo

                        @feeder wrote:

                        strange that the canary isles have enough water to turn on the roadside filters to keep the palm trees and flowers watered on there little islands.but we being an island cannot supply water to our customers.what a joke

                        But what’s the relative population of the Canary Islands when compared to the South of England, and how much water is used per person? I don’t know the answer to that but would assume that the water usage is 10 fold in the UK.

                        Also when you visit the Canaries do you drink the tap water?

                      • #157620

                        TF_eels

                          @Kagger TNB wrote:

                          Hosepipe ban?

                          What hosepipe ban?

                          Anglian water provide me with my water. Surely if they want to change the terms of my service they should write to me and tell me.

                          I’m on a meter and pay for exactly what I use.

                          My garden won’t be dying any time soon.

                          And anyway, the clowns that have been running this country have let immigration go unchecked for how many years?

                          We have a housing problem, the roads are congested, people cant get their kids into schools, the NHS can’t meet the demands made on it’s service, and, apparently, there’s a drought on and we dont have enough water.

                          Or is it all just media propaganda?

                          As long as your all right, that’s the main issue!!!! 😡 😡

                        • #157627

                          TF_piperpilot

                            All that’s needed is a level playing field from the very top to the very bottom. Just how many million’s or even billion’s of gallons of water are used/lost every year washing down buildings etc!! and from unrepaired leaks. One on the road near our mainland house was pi55ing out water for months,

                          • #157628

                            TF_Anthonywaters
                            Participant

                              You have to ask yourself what is a responsible use of water, I dont deem pressure washing buildings / patios & such as wheelie bins a responsible use of water full stop… It is only a hosepipe ban though, those with big gardens will have to get big watering cans !

                            • #157637

                              TF_Kagger TNB

                                How’s this for adding to the madness.

                                On Look East, in the lead up to the ban, they were reporting that Anglian water was diverting water from Norfolk (where a hosepipe ban is in place) to Essex, where there wasn’t a ban.

                                The water was taken from near Denver sluice, “It would only end up going out to sea”.

                              • #157642

                                TF_unlucky19

                                  move up north lads all the water you can drink and more . raining plenty up here and looks like that for next week .
                                  so drough what drought .

                                • #157646

                                  TF_feeder

                                    no tommo i drink the beer and spirits. :p 😀 😀 😀

                                  • #157649

                                    TF_Gary

                                      They should just put the price of water up. That would make people use less.

                                      Simples.

                                    • #157650

                                      TF_unlucky19

                                        Water butt is overflowing now !

                                      • #157651

                                        TF_Serious Sam

                                          Spend £3 on a watering can and you can stop whining . . . . .

                                        • #157653

                                          TF_unlucky19

                                            Naw just use me hosepipe .
                                            Not whining

                                          • #157654

                                            TF_Anthonywaters
                                            Participant

                                              Has anyone, ever, actually been fined for breaking this rule, ever ?

                                            • #157668

                                              TF_Gary

                                                http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/04/hosepipe-ban

                                                Apparently the maximum punishment for breaking a hosepipe ban is £1,000.

                                              • #157672

                                                TF_Paddy

                                                  Generally you have to replace a boiler these days, with a condencing boiler.
                                                  The older boiler models were deemed to be very inefficient, and use to much energy – So, the new condencing boiler was the way forward.
                                                  Now having had the older through flue style boiler, hot water was instant, literally, tap on and burn your hands off!
                                                  These new crap boilers that new houses, offices, flats, old peoples homes etc have are all condensors, which take an age to deliver hot water.
                                                  When you do the washing up, what do you do? you dont keep all the cold water prior to the delivery of the hot water, so it all goes down the plug hole – how many people are doing this, day in, day out, year in, year out – it’s just a total waste of water and energy whilst the boiler gets up to speed.
                                                  what a load of old knackers! no wonder water is short, when half the nation has the same problem and are chucking gallons down the sink every day.

                                                • #157687

                                                  TF_Mark Wintle

                                                    @Anthonywaters wrote:

                                                    Has anyone, ever, actually been fined for breaking this rule, ever ?

                                                    Back in 1976 the Wessex Water Authority as the EA was then sent up a helicopter and took pictures of suburban areas. They easily identified the green lawns of those using hosepipes and doled out fines accordingly. The drought at that point was far more serious than it is currently in Dorset. After that year new reservoirs were built and a pipeline to connect the Ringwood reservoirs with the Longham waterworks constructed but it took over 30 years to get to what we have now.

                                                  • #157690

                                                    TF_Gavin

                                                      I remember in the summer of 1990 there were spotter planes over Cambridge looking for the same.

                                                    • #157692

                                                      TF_Gary

                                                        What if someone is diligently watering their garden with a watering can? You cannot prosecute somebody on the basis that “your lawn is green”!

                                                      • #157693

                                                        TF_Waveney One

                                                          @Gary wrote:

                                                          What if someone is diligently watering their garden with a watering can? You cannot prosecute somebody on the basis that “your lawn is green”!

                                                          Agreed. What has happened in the past is that people have been written to. Reminding them of the legal situation and that they are being ‘watched’. As far as I know that is as far as it went.

                                                        • #157694

                                                          TF_Anthonywaters
                                                          Participant

                                                            Yeah I think people will have just been warned, its a very grey area to prove your using a hose rather than a can no matter how lush your vegetation is, I know One think im going to clean my caravan with a watering can 🙂

                                                          • #157696

                                                            TF_Paddy

                                                              This might be a bit simplistic, but:
                                                              A house brick is 0.001m cubed.
                                                              In a small town of say 50,000 houses who flush the loo 3 times a day, multiplied by 0.001m cubed = 50m cubed (multiply by 1000 to get litres) = 50,000 litres of Potable water saving a day.
                                                              Just imagine the whole nation making that saving = MASSIVE!
                                                              Just pass a law that every bog in the land has to have a brick shuvved in it!
                                                              No more water shortage, due to the nation saving so much water. Less usage from the reservior’s and they get filled quicker, due to less extraction.
                                                              Or is that just to simple???

                                                            • #157705

                                                              TF_punchcrumb

                                                                The answer to that question I belive Is NO! :rolleyes:

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