JUST A LITTLE YOB WHO GOT LUCKY o/t

[TF_Gary the gudgeon]

~think ~think ~think, it is laughable all the fuss that is being made about Rooney, he is just a little yob who got lucky and has the Arrogance to think he is important.His behavior reminds me of the yob in Cambridgeshire who whilst working as a dustman got lucky and won £9 million on the lottery, made everybodies life a misery, blew the lot and ended up with a prison record and back in is old job.
Must say I was impressed with Ferguson’s performance it looked as if he really cared about losing him, could that be an ACT to keep some value in any transfer fee that MIGHT be offered.

[TF_piperpilot]

He’s not the only one as the vast majority of those ‘Bag of Wind’ kickers are Pig Ignorant Arrogant and a Thugish bunch of trash who urgently need to be knocked back into reality. Personally I’d hit them with 95% tax,

[TF_joffmiester]

~clap ~clap NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB~clap ~clap off you go just like the others

i think his missis is behind all this anyway as most of the other tossers knew what he was upto so i think she’s the one that wants him out of utd ~think

[meat master]

it would be nice to see him put one past united at old trafford though

playing for man city would be the icing on the cake.

amagin sir wats his names face ~clap

[TF_MICK THE BOOKIE]

Said it before and will say it again.The uneducated brat is a fair player who with great players alongside(Ronaldo),is made to look better than he thinks.He is and never was World class.
His wife has made something of her life by living off his name,and i admire her for that.Now she has got her future set in her mind she will dump him when she can.She is the reason for him leaving Man Utd because the prat is trying to save his marraige and career.He thinks he will be wanted by Real Madrid,and he can leave his past behind him.But dont hold your breath Wayne….You aint that good.

p.s.The wife will unload him in 6 months,and find herself a real man with money and better looking than SHREK. ~shh ~shh ~shh ~shh ~shh

[TF_Gary the gudgeon]

MICK THE BOOKIE, with regards to your p.s.
DID YOU HAVE ANYONE IN MIND or is that to personal.

[TF_Smed]

allways was and allways will be over rated!
as much as i hate sir rednose. at least he had the bollox to drop him!!
not like that coppollo what his name!

now utd will want as much as any fool is willing to pay for him! theres no way he will let him rot as has been suggested…..

will he play some part tonight u reckon?

[TF_herbie]

@meat master wrote:

it would be nice to see him put one past united at old trafford though

playing for man city would be the icing on the cake.

amagin sir wats his names face ~clap

this quote kinda sums up todays football supporter. this man has won 40 trophies created a dynesty without a sugar daddy and everyone hates him~think ~think ~think . envy is a horrible thing to have to carry and i pity you son. my generation although fiercly loyal have always respected achievment and never belittled anyone who achieved something my club/manager couldnt. back in the early sixties in a stockport youth club loyal to united bill shankly was asked to award the end of season prizes. when he walked into the room 100% of those present rose to there feet and aplauded for 5 minutes. today they would boo. glad im old.

[TF_bremesParticipant]

Got to agree Herbie,though imho(maybe biased)Cloughy was a better manager,he won two european cups when you had to be champions,admitted the 2nd one as being the holders+much as i hate to admit it,he was robbed in the euro cup semi when managing derby,he did it with a so called “unfashionable” clubs.He went 42 games unbeaten,which was then the equivalent of a full season,i never thought i would see this record beaten so congrats to Arsenal there.I know one thing that will never be beaten coming up from the old 2nd div & winning the 1st the following season(championship-prem),it will not happen again of that im sure.Ironically it was Forest/mark robins who kept fergie at old trafford in that fa cup game years ago.I was’nt fooled by Fergie yesterday,his “sombre” look in that press conference was designed to appeal to the United supporters,it will have worked as the fans will fall en mass behind him tonight.What is interesting is when UTD decide to let Rooney go,if they wait till the end of the season Rooney is perfectly & legally entitled to invoke that clause whereas he can buy his contract out for 5million,apparently no player in the worldwide game as done this yet adhereing to a “gentlemans agreement” within the game,but i bet Rooney will,thus im sure UTD have no choice other than to let him go in the Jan transfer window,maybe before on loan with the agreement already in place(not sure if that can be done??).

[TF_herbie]

bremmes got to agree re clough. man of magic and with peter taylor at his side , out of this world . they had one advantage that taggert has not. the news came on at 10pm and off at 10.30. now its 24 hrs. same amount of news but 23.5 hrs of pure junk needed to fill the void. mountains made out of specs of dust. rumours turned into fact in the blink of an eye. cloughie loved a glass of wine. today the news of the world would get him drunk.film him and then expose him as an alky. all those who looked on his success with envy would go into gloat mode and by the end of the day he would according to most only have days to live due to liver desease. the sad fact today is no matter what taggert said yesterday some one would have a spin on it.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Can you imagine how the present Man U players will react given he clearly is indicating that he is too good for them and deserves better players to play alongside. I presume he will be telling the England manager a similar view lol.

[TF_Dodge]

Well said bremes & herbie ~clap ~clap ~clap

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

@Gary the gudgeon wrote:

~think ~think ~think, it is laughable all the fuss that is being made about Rooney, he is just a little yob who got lucky and has the Arrogance to think he is important.His behavior reminds me of the yob in Cambridgeshire who whilst working as a dustman got lucky and won £9 million on the lottery, made everybodies life a misery, blew the lot and ended up with a prison record and back in is old job.
Must say I was impressed with Ferguson’s performance it looked as if he really cared about losing him, could that be an ACT to keep some value in any transfer fee that MIGHT be offered.

reading that mate,,sounds like you’ve never played footy in your life!
and more or less all the other replies are total crap aswell, its only when you watch pub football and sunday league that you realise how good these players are!!!
i wouldnt say im a rooney fan,, but the kid didnt get lucky,, he has a natural talent that you can not teach, !
and if he has anything about him,, he’ll do what keano says and do whats best for him and not the club!!!
after all,, the club is a little like a butchery,,he’s just a piece of meat traveling down a convayor belt,, good luck to him i say!!!!

[TF_Jadstar70]

@Dodge wrote:

Well said bremes & herbie ~clap ~clap ~clap

Here Here~clap ~clap ~clap

[TF_Gary the gudgeon]

Herbie, your summary of todays society is absolutely spot on, they all talk about respect but do not have a clue what it is.

Leaky Lloyd, you are a fine example of todays society, so all the other replies are in your opinion crap, thanks for your intelligent comments.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

read the post again mate,, almost all the posts mate,, almost!
rooney has got a very good point,, there are players round him that are not good enough, and he and his agent are inteligent enough to know what position he is in,
apply what wayne rooney is doing to a normal every day tradesman and you begin to see the big picture,,
if i knew i could earn more money out of my trade due to other company’s being aware of my superior tecnical prowess, id be off like a shot,, looking after me and my family!!!
simple as that!!!
im sure this post will prompt some micky taking from me mates,, so sod off fella’s,, or kiss goodbye to yer mates rates!!!
~sick ~sick

[TF_herbie]

so the fact that his agent will make 5 million has nothing to do with it then. its just greed. 3 teams bettered united as a team in 2009/10. byern, inter, and chelski. so on your thinking about him wanting to go and play with better players does not stack up, unless he joins chelsea. greed nothing but greed. i dont care where he goes and if thats accross the road then so be it. he will increase the employment figures in manchester by the number of minders he will need.~shh

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

@Gary the gudgeon wrote:

~think ~think ~think, it is laughable all the fuss that is being made about Rooney, he is just a little yob who got lucky and has the Arrogance to think he is important.His behavior reminds me of the yob in Cambridgeshire who whilst working as a dustman got lucky and won £9 million on the lottery, made everybodies life a misery, blew the lot and ended up with a prison record and back in is old job.
Must say I was impressed with Ferguson’s performance it looked as if he really cared about losing him, could that be an ACT to keep some value in any transfer fee that MIGHT be offered.

…and when hes banging in goals were all singing about him , but as soon as hes on a downer , people knock him down even more..give the bloke a break . hes a great footballer and always will be one of the greats!! …and no I’m notr a Man u fan.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

@Leaky Lloyd wrote:

read the post again mate,, almost all the posts mate,, almost!
rooney has got a very good point,, there are players round him that are not good enough, and he and his agent are inteligent enough to know what position he is in,
apply what wayne rooney is doing to a normal every day tradesman and you begin to see the big picture,,
if i knew i could earn more money out of my trade due to other company’s being aware of my superior tecnical prowess, id be off like a shot,, looking after me and my family!!!
simple as that!!!
im sure this post will prompt some micky taking from me mates,, so sod off fella’s,, or kiss goodbye to yer mates rates!!!
~sick ~sick

You strike me as somebody who has not played much sport rather than the way you attack others. Firstly, I think the lets say I want to see better players blah blah around me is IMO a ruse. A convenient excuse. If you asked any Man Utd fan to describe the relationship between Rooney and Ronaldo they would tell you not very cordial. Unpleasant etc. Reeked of petulant jealousy.

The most important character to EVERY successful team in sport is a commitment to the TEAM. The team is everything, you put yourself out for the player alongside. From that togetherness / collective unity comes success. You can buy the best players in the world but if they are too self centred to create a TEAM you will be beaten by TEAMS of lesser players individually but BETTER TEAMS. Sport is not like the workplace we all are part of. It is unique.

You haven’t a clue Leaky IMO.

Some excellent posts by others.

[TF_proper tidal boy]

herbs spot on greedy ucking agents will get 5 mill and that footie money goes out of the system why ??????????

[TF_MarkT]

Both statements are very clever, Fergie yesterday blaming Rooney knowing the fans would turn on him and today Rooney saying it’s basicly the Glaziers and Gills fault, knowing the fans hate them more than any other.

I agree with Rooney in away though the squads isn’t good enough and it hasn’t been for a while now. It’s the weakest team we’ve had for years now but i’m still sceptical about the reasons.

He’s basically walked out of the club 2 months into a new season and totally alienated himself from now on.

I also agree with Carpcruncher he wasn’t overrated before the world cup and once he picks up form again he’ll be scoring goals again.

Maybe once we get rid of him the value of the club will drop and the Glaziers will be forced to sell it, and only then can we start to move forward again.

[TF_MICK THE BOOKIE]

@Gary the gudgeon wrote:

MICK THE BOOKIE, with regards to your p.s.
DID YOU HAVE ANYONE IN MIND or is that to personal.

~clap ~clap ~clap Gary….I couldnt follow Wayne….I know where hes been.God,even the escort birds had check ups after going with Shrek.~naughty ~naughty ~naughty

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

Cut angler,
as im sure you are aware,, the whole root of the matter is money,, and wayne is just out for his,, fair play to him,
wayne could walk into any side in england if not the world and that connot be said about EVERY man united player,
it would be easy to start tee’ing off on one over your extremely un educated comment about me playing very little sport as you know sod all about me, but lets just say ive played more than 90 minutes of football!
its not a trumpet blowing competition so ill leave it at that!!!!
football is now a business and not much of a sport anymore wayne is just making money aint that what business men do???????
and with regaurds to football being nothing like i life in a trade,, was simply trying to put it into perspective, if there was someone out there who recognizes your qualities in your chosen field of trade or what ever you do for a living,, you would be silly to not take full advantage of the situation from a financial point of view!!!!
reguardless of what people think,, its the REALISTS amongst us that can admit you got to take from life what you can get!!!

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Leaky I don’t care if you played pro football / amateur football / schoolboy football or netball. Plenty people play a sport and have no idea about the sport they play. ~think

Money? Of course it is a huge factor in professional football but it reaches a point where unless Mrs Rooney (Deservedly) decides to take him to the cleaners then it is largely something that Rooney will not have to worry about be it at Man U or wherever. The money side makes it incredibly difficult to deal with individuals these days as Fergie talked about especially with the influence of parasites (agents). Attitude is the key and you reflect it perfectly.

Rooney is an incredibly talented footballer BUT look at the young man who scored his first goal for Everton / his first goal for Man U (both readily available on the BBC website) His desire / passion to express himself on the pitch was far beyond what you see now. Football was everything for him.

By his mid 20’s you have a young man who is a petulant brat on the football field and finding it incredibly hard to produce his best football be it for Man U or England. His last 6 months football has been the worst of his career. Still he gets richer.

Off the pitch he is a low life. He treats his so called childhood sweetheart like a piece of dog dirt on the side of his shoe. What does he do with his free time? Prostitutes? What a life. Still he gets richer.

All that wealth and so unhappy and pathetic that he can no longer find enjoyment out on a football pitch. The place where he should for 90 minutes be totally free to enjoy life in a way others will never know.

I watched a childhood rugby genius called Jason Robinson. He had it all and yet by his early 20’s he was sad and miserable. He changed his life and we all know the rest.

Rooney thought his statement today was clever. It was stupidity personified. Probably constructed by his agent. Man U are a central midfielder and an extra striker short of being at the top of games. Who is to know what will happen, how can Wayne Rooney judge what is right or wrong for a football team. Fergie can. Hence, you trust him. Not some sad miserable mid 20 low life who cannot even manage his own life let alone a world standard football club. Rooney should be leading that team but he has selfishly ended any hope of doing that.

For all the money, for all the egos a successful football is about the TEAM and putting that TEAM first.

£33 million secured by the very shady Stretford on his behalf and yet what a life. Money isn’t the be all and end all Lloydy. In football it can be a problem especially when a parasite like Stretford is reliant on you for his own money. Who wants Rooney and all the problems he brings? City would be mad to take him, Chelsea do not need him, Madrid / Barca do not need him.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

I don’t think Man U are that far away. A world class central midfielder would make a huge difference.

Look at the defence;

Da Silva/Ferdinand/Vidic/Evra with O’Shea/Brown/Evans/Smalling/Da Silva in reserve.

The problem has been some of the young buys/players have not come through in Midfield/Attack but who can fault such a policy. Arsenal/Chelsea to some extent and Man U all buy young now and develop in house. Germany came through with a young team.

So a couple of signings and one or two come through from reserve and everybody will be saying glory glory Man U.

[Anonymous]

£33 million in the bank and unhappy. Maybe he has decided that he wants to return home. Stranger things have happened. Once a blue, always a blue, remember!

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

Everton…pmsl~sick ~clap

[TF_bremesParticipant]

Got to agree about Paul Stretford,i remember when Collymore wanted to leave Forest for Man U,Stretford was behind that as well,Forest stood their ground and said no.Collymore spat his dummy out big time,in fact at the time everyone in Nottm knew Pyscho gave Collymore a right hander in the dressing room prior to a game at Anfield,where collymore eventually ended up at.The trouble was Stretford at the time had very close links with a newspaper(rhymes with currant bun),virtually everyday there were stories linking collymore with utd,now the boots on the other foot re…fergie/stretford.The rooney move maybe about money~think,who knows ~think,but if he does invoke the buyout clause then city or whover will get him for 5million,but rooney will then get the remainng chunk of the transfer fee paid to him,he’s happy & the buying club are happy.

[TF_herbie]

nwc well put~clap ~clap ~clap united are in transition, no doubt about that. there midfield wouldnt look out of place in the ryman league and as weve seen with nani we have to trust fergie and hope they come good. as for the fat boy well good riddence, off you go son, enjoy your rise to being gascoine mark 2. cos if your not happy at old trafford then your in trouble cos the only way is down. time to move on rooney will not be mentioned again as far as im concerned he was a good player in a good team but great ~think sorry never great. great is law, best, charlton, whiteside,robson,giggs,scholes,cantona,the list is endless but the fat scouse thug is not on my list unless you,ve a list of greedy fat bastards that is.

[TF_piperpilot]

Trouble on 2 legs. By the way fat boy London whores are very very expensive and will soon steal your millions and just maybe you’ll cop a dose or worse,

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

@TrueBlue wrote:

£33 million in the bank and unhappy. Maybe he has decided that he wants to return home. Stranger things have happened. Once a blue, always a blue, remember!

funny that mate cos i have thought the same,, you never know,, like so many have stated,,he is absolutley minted,, maybe we all got the wrong end of the stick,, maybe he wants a return home,, after all,, i did hear on sky sports there is a ruling which states he can buy out his contract which apparently he is willing to do!
would be fantastic if he did,, cant really see it in all truth but how sweet would it be???
be quite a few eating humble pie me thinks!!!
i honestly think we can rule out a trip to spain as most clubs stipulate players must learn to speek the native language due to interview reasons and lets have it right,, along with every other scouser out there,, he’s still struggling with his english!!!

~sick ~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Here is the rub re Rooney’s reply. By his own words players in any team he plays for have to be world class etc etc So Everton and the rest you are not good enough for Wayne. Not even Man U are good enough for Wayne.

If he moved to anywhere but 3 or 4 clubs in the world his statement would be hollow dare i say lies ~think

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9113841.stm

Seems like Mark Lawrensen agrees with myself Leaky

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

how many times have you heard a football player say they where given a tough game by the oposition after wooping them 6-0?????
its called etiquet mate,,
yer cant walk into an interview and say,, they where crap and we hammered them!
or,, mr x is a good midfielder and im happy to play along side him!!!
there are only a few with big enough balls to say what they think!!!
cloughy,, ironically enough keano,, (maybe cloughy rubbed off on him),, and rooney aswell it would seem!!!
like a breath of fresh air if you ask me,, i find it a bit patronizing when a player is biggin someone up who quite frankly is pants!!!!!
no one likes a yes man,
look at gary neville, not exactly mr popular is he!

incidently,,who you support mate??????

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Man U

Actually no Leaky. Great managers / players understand the team element.

Cloughie was great at finding a player written off as ordinary / past it and getting him to do a job for his team. There are many different requirements within any one team if it is to be successful.

Liverpool under Shankly and Paisley had the blend of magical players and honest nitty gritty toilers.

Fergie had that blend too. Nevilly / Bruce etc did the hard graft to allow the Cantona’s to do their magic.

In days gone by, a Tommy Smith, a Kenny Burns, a Steve Bruce would have pinned Rooney up by his changing room peg and had him begging for mercy and crying for his mummy. Rooney crossed the line with his comments.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

you support man united???

id never have guessed!!~sick ~sick ~sick

fair play matey,, id be gutted about loosing him!!!
there aint been much on sky on fans views,, do they all share yours???

[andy jonesParticipant]

Never a red if born a blue

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

No idea Leaky. I would guess some belonging to the yellow and green scarves group will have been sucked in by Rooney trying to curry their favour.

Wayne Rooney was an excellent player. For the last 6 months he has been mediocre letting down both his club AND country. He has betrayed his own wife and brought the sport / club into disrepute. If Wayne Rooney leaves so be it. As it stands he has a lot to do to earn the right to represent the club I support ever again.

Holly has called it right

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9116212.stm

Wayne Rooney owes Man Utd, he owes Fergie and he does not have the intelligence / credibility to question Fergie I.E how the club is run. Whether you support them or not to play for Man U is a privellege. 99% of players that leave Man U go downwards thereafter.

[Anonymous]

NWCA, let me educate you a little. Aged 10, Rooney joined the youth team of Everton, for whom he made his professional debut in 2002 aged 16. He moved to United for £25.6 million in the 2004 summer transfer window. That was a steel by United. Part of the reason why Everton will get 25% of any transfare fee above the what Everton have already had. Since then, he has won the Premier League three times, the 2007–08 UEFA Champions League and two League Cups. Wayne Rooney owes United nothing!

He was a player that went directly into the United 1st team after leaving Everton and was already an established England international! Some Everton supporters where unhappy about him leaving when he did. However, most excepted that Wayne was going for footballing reasons. Everton needed the money and had no prospect of winning anything. We hoped that he would stay until the end of the 2002 season but United wanted the Everton wonder kid and pushed though the deal.

Rooney is unhappy with things at United and i dont blame him. Can any United supporter honestly say that they are happy with there team at the moment. I think not! So Rooney wishes to move on for footballing reasons again.

Im not sure that going to City or Chelsea is right for Rooney. If he does go to either of these 2 clubs. I think it will be a shot term thing. Both of those moves suggest trouble for Rooney in my opinion. Im not sure Europe is the right place for him either.

From all accounts. He is very close to his friends and family in Liverpool and his footballing heart is still very much at Everton. So, its either staying at United or returning to Everton.

Many within football have stated that Everton are a top striker shot of challenging for things. Does Rooney see this? Why else would Rooney even consider buying out his own contract? He can refuse to sign a contract and be on his way to City or Chelsea in the Summer and ask for whatever he wants!

Rooney will return to Everton at some stage. Maybe not yet. However, thats where he wants to win things!

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

TB I think you are clutching at straws if you believe Rooney will return to Everton. Whatsmore your reasons are not credible.

Wayne Rooney could not give a damn about his own wife, let alone so called friends. He loved Liverpool / Everton so much he was looking to walk at the earliest opportunity. His relationship with Stretford is a real issue. What Stretford forgets is that unless Rooney does it on the pitch and conducts himself properly off the pitch then his and Rooneys gravy train will dry up.

Wayne Rooney owes a great deal to a lot of people from his early junior days to his Everton career but increasingly to Man U / Fergie. The vast majority of his 33 million came whilst at Man U / Fergie. His success nearly all came at Man U / Fergie. Players benefit under Fergie if they follow his advice / guidance. Look at Neville / Scholes / Giggs playing at the top level until their mid / late 30’s. What price Rooney doing so?

We have a once excellent player who for 6 months has been ordinary. Every year he ages, it gets harder and harder to maintain peak physical condition. Every year he abuses his body it gets harder and harder to maintain pealke physical condition. The margin between excellence and mediocrity is small but the effort / dedication to reach that level is huge. Mid 20, the biggest stage in the world and Rooney could not deliver for England. His own country, he could have been made for life on a tournament but he has lost the plot.

Instead of wanting to work hard to get better and better Wayne Rooney is already looking for excuses and blaming anybody / everybody.

Everton, if he carries on it will be Tranmere and/or the next door cell to Gazza.

[TF_piperpilot]

NWCA That’s so true. That’s the start of the rot when you truthfully know inside that your losing it and the only escape from the stark reality is to seek solace in blaming anybody everybody and the whole world in general. IMO the world cup fiasco proved the point that he can’t cut the mustard anymore. How long before it’s bar fly time telling anyone who’ll listen just how great a player you were. Come on in Luis the Jets fueled and ready to fly,

[TF_caster robParticipant]

NWCA: Excellent post at 21:26.

[Anonymous]

NWCA said – Wayne Rooney could not give a damn about his own wife, let alone so called friends. He loved Liverpool / Everton so much he was looking to walk at the earliest opportunity. His relationship with Stretford is a real issue. What Stretford forgets is that unless Rooney does it on the pitch and conducts himself properly off the pitch then his and Rooneys gravy train will dry up.

Thats a bit harsh based on the fact that half the population have cheated on there partners. The fact that the Rooney,s are still together suggests that Wayne.s wife does mean something to him!

Yep he loves Everton so much that he is bringing up his son as a blue. Why not bring him up as a United supporter?

Rooney left for United for footballing reasons. We all knew he was going and most excepted it. However, some expected him to give us one more full season. United wanted him in the winter transfere window and so the deal was pushed though early. Remember, Everton needed the money. If Everton wanted to keep Rooney until the summer. Then Everton could have said no until the end of the season.

Stretford is an issue. However, £33 million in Rooney,s bank account does suggest that he has done ok. Im not so sure that if Rooney,s gravy train did dry up. Then, i dont think he would worry too much. Its medals that Rooney wants. Money is just a bonus!

NWCA also said – Wayne Rooney owes a great deal to a lot of people from his early junior days to his Everton career but increasingly to Man U / Fergie. The vast majority of his 33 million came whilst at Man U / Fergie. His success nearly all came at Man U / Fergie. Players benefit under Fergie if they follow his advice / guidance. Look at Neville / Scholes / Giggs playing at the top level until their mid / late 30’s. What price Rooney doing so?

Yes, Rooney did owe Everton something for bringing him up as a youth footballer and gave him his first big breaks in the game at a very early age. However, Rooney had the talent from a very early age to always be a top class player. No matter what club he would have signed for as a junior. Everton got £26 million as a reward and maybe another £10 million if City and Chelsea get in to a bidding war. United payed £26 million for his service and have had almost 7 years of top class performances out of him. That has included United winning 6 major trophies and making a hell of a lot of money out of his and the other players at United,s success! So, Rooney owes United nothing anymore! Fergie is a great manager and im sure has helped Rooney in his carer. Rooney said as much in his statement. Rooney see,s his future elsewhere for football reasons. It might also be for the love of the game and the club that he still love,s.

I have no idea about how long Rooney will stay in the game. Rooney is not 25 yet. He has probably got another 2/3 years before he reaches is peak as a striker. Do you honestly believe that Neville, Scholes and Giggs are top level premiership and Champions league players anymore? None of those 3 players would get in the Chelsea or Everton 1st team for that matter! At best they should be squad players at United. Those 3 players should have been replaced with younger top quality players several years ago and are is probably the main reasons for Rooney wanting away from United.

Which English player played well in the World cup? I dont think you can blame Rooney!

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

TB, Rooney as a person is scum. Sorry but where I come from not many cheat repeatedly on their wives. I don’t nor would I ever do so. Here was the so called love of his life and he cannot show her any decency. Oldest PRO in Liverpool, Sweet Jesus and to keep repeating the same basket trick on her. So sorry but if a man cannot treat his wife properly then do not tell me he will treat anybody else properly. She should walk away and take him to the cleaners.

Since he became a professional, the dealing of Rooney / Stretford have been dragged through the courts year on year.

You seem to say Rooney has given Man U everything for 26 million and talk as if that is nothing? £4 million per year The lets talk wages and THEN where he owes Man U big time Marketing / Image Rights. Without Man U / Success his marketing / image rights would be nowhere near what he has accumulated. Man U = licence to print money and he has dined out on it. Yes he has helped Man U win competitions but that works both ways and whatsmore it is a TEAM game. Wayne Rooney v Accrington Stanley = Victory to Stanley.

So at the age of wht 24, Wayne Rooney wants to be the next Georgie Best. George had a disease, a reason. Other than being an ignoramous what excuse does Rooney have.

Whatever way you wrap it up the Wayne Rooney of the last 6 months is not worth £1 million let alone £40 / 50 million. We are talking about a man who physically need to keep his conditioning pefect because as he ages it gets harder and harder and it is getting so for him at a very young age.

The longevity of Giggs / Scholes is down to their professionalism. Both can still play at the highest level a decade + after Rooney seems to be managing. Yes they cannot do it week after week but they still have an incredible amount to offer.

Rooney needs football. Football / Man U / Everton whomever will be long after Rooney is finished. Far better players than Rooney have left Man U and the club goes on. I would rather Man U selected somebody who represented the club with pride than a piece of scum that brings shame on his own family / city / club.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Re The World Cup – Wayne Rooney was happy to accept the mantle, build a tem around me blah blah. When he had the greatest opportunity he failed miserably. If Numero Uno plays garbage then the rest are going to struggle around him.

[TF_caster robParticipant]

Good stuff again, NWCA.

I’ll take you on re: politcs, economics.

Football:

It’s all yours – lol.

[Anonymous]

Good job it looks like he is going based on your thoughts on Rooney, NWCA.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

i just find it funny how,
now wayne rooney cant score for toffee,, he’s past it and useless as soe have stated!
what a total load of crap,, he’s in hs prime and you dont just lose natural talent like that over night!!!
i also find it funny how he is scum now he cant score for toffee and wants to leave man united,, where as when little over a year ago he was scoring goals for fun and pledged his future to united,, he was held in higher reguard than god himself!!!!

sorry,, but it stinks of sour grapes now this thread!!!!!

rooney will regain his scoring touch and put all the doubters to shame!!!!

good luck to the lad!

[TF_piperpilot]

The mind boggles and makes you wonder just what he’s into. A lot of blokes go with tenner a trick tarts because they have boring and mundane lives and are addicted to the risk element involved. Others because they are into weird 5hit that they try to hide from their wives etc!! or worse that their wives etc!! can handle. The bloke is clearly full of id’s and it’s a shame Freud isn’t around because he would have loved to Psychoanalysis him. Personally I think he won’t be going anywhere fast,

[TF_bigoldbigbuttParticipant]

According to sky news Rooney has just signed a 5 year contract…………..With UNITED !

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

Leaky / TB

You can be a scummy individual and still a great footballer. Just because you are a great footballer it does not mean you are a great person. Sorry but Rooney the man is scum.

Rooney the footballer was excellent but NOW who knows. Based on the adage you are only as good as your last game then in recent months Rooney has been stealing a living and should be thanking Fergie not telling him how to manage and holding them to ransom.

The one huge positive that foreign footballers have brough to the British game is an education of how to live / prepare yourself away from the pitch. Many British players are still reluctant to take heed. We are not talking park football / lower pro football here. We are talking the pinnacle of the professional game and unless Rooney is mentally / physically perfect trhen his playing standard will drop. It becomes harder with age anyway BUT throw both together and you can lose what made you great JUST LIKE THAT. It makes a mockery of Rooney demanding that the players around him should be world class and only world class. The stupidity of his demand is that given all the money in the World al a Man City getting world greats to sign and play in Britain is very difficult.

For football I think it is important that Wayne Rooney loses this unedifying spat.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6460944,00.html

All I can say is that the scummy oik has an awful lot of redeeming / apologising to do. The jury is out as to whether he can regain his form. As a Man U fan I hope he can. If he cannot he is going to suffer horendously.

A pantomime

[henchyu123Participant]

he’s only done that to get the media and fans off his back, he will be at real madrid next season.

[TF_yiddo]

I wonder how long it will be before all the man utd fans that slagged shrek,fat scouse bastard and all the other names that he was called on this thread are chanting his name and saying what a great player he is again he has just shafted man utd to get himself even more cash a week to spend on hookers nice work if you can get it~clap ~clap ~clap

[andy85Participant]

as a city fan i cant believe how quickly the utd fans turned on him if i was him i would of gone somewhere he was appreciated, he is only 24 just younger than me an yeah hes made a few mistakes but no more than average joe has. he almost carried utd to the title last year single handed yet he still gets slated. if u had of lost him u would imo been screwed. i like the fact that he has come from where he was an made sumat of himself. all the utd fans will tell u how good he is next week what a bunch of hypercrits they will be. if what he has done today by signing aint loyalty then i dont know what is after the abuse hes got. im glad hes stayed coz when i watch motd on a sat night rooney is one person i like watchin an i couldnt care less what he does off the pitch

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9119055.stm

First step an apology

Why should fans treat him any differently other than his ‘standing’ IMO going downwards. The dramatic turnaround after 7 days of dragging the club through the media farce has no doubt resulted in a new contract with a much better contract (didn’t many of us say this was about money). The way he has tried to achieve a new contract has backfired on Rooney IMO and I surmise that several of his marketing/advertising deals could have gone up in smoke minus Man U. His personal life conduct coupled with this farce will have made Rooney somebody some companies will think twice about becoming involved with.

For Man U he needs to get back his old form

For football it is a great day as it (rightfully) gives a little more power back to managers over players.

[TF_piperpilot]

Told you so going nowhere fast. No worse treatment then a lot of pro’s would get,

[Anonymous]

You dont sound like a United supporter, NWCA. Much more like a deluded Liverpool supporters.

Rooney ask for assurances about new transferes in the future. United where not prepared to give those assurances. So, Rooney said no thanks to a new contract.

Whats the green and gold about if its not about those same concerns and assurances? Rooney does not owe United fans and apology. He simply told the truth about his concerns!

United have now given Rooney assurances that United will be competing for the better players in the transfere market. That suggests to me that the likes of Rodwell as an example will be at United in the very near future.(Many who support Everton expected it to happen in the summer transfere window but United refused to pay the £30 million fee)!

Rooney will get more money. However, going to City, Chelsea or a top European club would have doubled his wages that United are now paying. Thats without taking into consideration the signing on fee if he had moved. Clearly, Rooney is staying at United for footballing reasons but does get well rewarded for his services. United make a lot more out of Rooney. Something deluded football fans forget!

As for Rooney,s private life. It should be kept as his private life!

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

TB, you insult me ~naughty My father RIP was a Man U supporter and I have always been a Man U supporter. However, I was brought up in a household whereby first and foremost you played the game rather than watched but when you watched you did so with an open mind whereby people from all across the North West would go to watch Finney if Preston were at home and Matthews the week after at Blackpool if they were at home.

This was never about the squad / future signings. It was about Rooney getting the best contract possible.

This notion about signings and indeed the Green/Golds is pure hogwash. It is a smokescreen by Rooney, pandering to the Green & Golds. NO CLUB / NO OWNER / NO MANAGER can promise anybody anything 12 months ahead, 6 months ahead, in 48 hours. Unless a contract is signed / sealed it would be ridiculous to do so.

Look at City, they have outbid EVERYBODY for some of the real genuine world class players and still those players have opted for Spain and Italy. Many players do not want to come to Britain. The playing strength claims and sudden turn around are a huge black hole in Rooney’s so called arguments and show him up as a liar.

Hence we had the media tennis with Fergie and Rooney and we had all ther other great managers / clubs telling it as it was and that Rooney would still be at United. They knew the score. They knew what was happening.

Nobody was clamouring to sign Rooney which did not help his cause. Many managers used it as an opportunity to reassert their authority in the game for when others came knocking on their days. Rooney did them no favours but for that I am glad. Not that Rooney cared.

If Fergie is such a genius why on Earth was Rooney crying about signing X, Y, Z. His so called arguments had so many holesv they were ludicrous.

Rooney is scum and he has used the media / invited the media into his private life for gain so he reaps what he sows. If it is in the public interest then we should know. Excellent football player but as a human being, scum

[Anonymous]

NWCA, if Rooney was only after the best deal possible and not after assurances for footballing reasons. Then, he would not have signed his new contract with United today. He would of been off to City, Chelsea or a top European team in the next transfere window. There where reports today of City putting a deal together to pay Rooney £400, 000 per week. There would have also been a massive signing on fee to Rooney on top of those wages! If its only about money for Rooney. Then, why has he signed a new contract today?

The truth is that United are a money making machine. Rooney is the star player in that team. He is only being payed what he is worth to the money making machine that is Manchester United. United will not loose out on Rooney signing the new contract!

If im wrong. Then, Rooney would have been sold already after refusing to sign the contract in August and stating he was leaving for footballing reasons.

Funny thing is that he still might be sold in the same way as Beckham was sold within a year of signing his last contract with United. Beckham has always stated that he never wanted to leave United.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

@yiddo wrote:

I wonder how long it will be before all the man utd fans that slagged shrek,fat scouse bastard and all the other names that he was called on this thread are chanting his name and saying what a great player he is again he has just shafted man utd to get himself even more cash a week to spend on hookers nice work if you can get it~clap ~clap ~clap

correct matey,, and you just know the next game is gunna be up in lights dont yer!!!
70 odd thousand turn coats all chanting
“ROONEY ROONEY ROONEY”!

and incidently,, whats wrong with rooney manipulating the situation???
taggart and the rest of his squad have been doing it to refs for years man!!!
~sick ~sick ~sick ~sick ~sick

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9120257.stm

Well we won’t be seeing Mr I am not injured Rooney for the next 3 weeks which is just a small part of how stupidly he has fared in this saga.

However, better to take note of Max Clifford who knows a little more about PR than we do;

“It has been a public relations disaster for him,” industry expert Clifford told BBC Sport.

“If Wayne Rooney cares about what people think, he has got a lot to do over the next two or three years.”

“The fact that he has done a complete U-turn and is now staying at Manchester United doesn’t really add to his credibility,” said Clifford.

“It looked like he thought he didn’t want to be at United unless they paid him a lot of money, so the only deduction from that is he is staying because they are paying him a lot of money,” said Clifford, who has worked with many high-profile clients during his career.

“His performance at the World Cup damaged his most important asset, his standing as a top footballer, and since then it has been one disaster after another.

“These incidents will not have helped Rooney’s popularity and appeal and the Rooney brand has been badly damaged.

“In terms of PR, in recent days, all you have seen is a lot of criticism of him and if there has been a response from the Rooney camp it hasn’t come across.”

Rooney had already been dropped by Coca-Cola after sleeping with a prostitute. Do you think many other companies will want to be associated with him? or even did. Then again maybe it was always about the contract ~think and not returning to Everton / Merseyside TB

If his Mrs has any sense she will take him to the cleaners and for his own sake he needs to start producing on the football pitch because beyond that he has nothing.

[TF_Hillbilly]

Not a bad deal, 3 weeks off and around £600,000 in the bank for his trouble. No way I would EVER pay to watch football again with the obscene wages the players are getting.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

@Hillbilly wrote:

Not a bad deal, 3 weeks off and around £600,000 in the bank for his trouble. No way I would EVER pay to watch football again with the obscene wages the players are getting.

I do not blame the players for taking the money BUT it is slowly killing football. Totally unsustainable.

Go ahead with a Europe League and let the 3 or 4 that can or want to pay silly wages do so and have a domestic competition with a salary cap.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

he’s got no makin up to do,,
united fans will forgive him already!!!!
mark my words on that!
cant wait for the chants

[TF_manu2]

Leaky theres no way that Rooney will be forgiven by me!
Hes only sighned so we get more from him when he goes at the end of the season. Remember Ronaldo?

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