sonubaits range of baits

[TF_Fred Davis]

I must admit the new ranges of sonubait hookers/additives such as the pellets including the dumbell pellets, boilees, pellet o’s and shakers have caught my eye just because of the ease of being able to carry a range of different hookers and additives to try if things arn’t going to plan, with most of the hookers pre drilled with korum bait needles and two hooks supplied free in the mini boilee range I can see me giving them a go, chatting to Darren Cox at the garbo he told me he has caught loads of fish on boilees and likes the floro orange. I have even invested in some nash 10mm pop ups to compliment the sonubaits sinking pre drilled boilees, In the past I personally havern’t strayed from my tried and trusted methods, especially when your picking up a bit of coin, however i reckon you can’t beat a bit of experimentation when the match isn’t going your way, could this be another string to your bow?
I know quite a few of the lads have invested in the krill shaker at £3.99 including myself, a tad cheaper than an alternative product and spot on according to a few close mates, however I am still far from convinced that these are as effective as we are led to beleive
what do you reckon more hype than substance?

to late for me as I’ve bought the range I do wonder if it will be a case of once bitten twice shy!!! :rolleyes:

[TF_Pikey]

They aren’t as good as the Marukyu baits 🙂 😮

[TF_Fred Davis]

I don’t suppose they are Dave, however there is very little difference in the powdered krill the maruku is slightly finer in texture, however the sonubaits shaker is cheaper to buy than a bag of maruku, I did have a look at the maruku 130 groundbait but at £6,99 a bag only anglers like your goodself can afford it :rolleyes:

[TF_kerryd]

@Fred Davis wrote:

I don’t suppose they are Dave, however there is very little difference in the powdered krill the maruku is slightly finer in texture, however the sonubaits shaker is cheaper to buy than a bag of maruku, I did have a look at the maruku 130 groundbait but at £6,99 a bag only anglers like your goodself can afford it :rolleyes:

Hi Fred

since you seem to be in the experimental mood have you tried krilled bronze maggot yet

lol

and Pikey is right about marukyu

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

Its definitely hype over substance and that’s the same with all the brands, but as we have said time and time again, its a confidence thing and providing they work for the individual, i cant see the problem.

[TF_TIDALWAVE1]

Confidence plays a big part in any usage of additives and flavourings,but they do work without a doubt.Marukyu groundbaits are certainly different to any other on the market and the easiest to mix,but does this make them the best available.?
only you can decide,but remember that plenty of products were around and working very well beforehand,and still work just as well now.what works for one may not work for all.by all means try new baits and ideas,but do not get caught up in the hype of every new thing that appears and chop and change to suit,or you will lose track of what really works,and what sometimes only works for advertising

[TF_kerryd]

@TIDALWAVE1 wrote:

Confidence plays a big part in any usage of additives and flavourings,but they do work without a doubt.Marukyu groundbaits are certainly different to any other on the market and the easiest to mix,but does this make them the best available.?
only you can decide,but remember that plenty of products were around and working very well beforehand,and still work just as well now.what works for one may not work for all.by all means try new baits and ideas,but do not get caught up in the hype of every new thing that appears and chop and change to suit,or you will lose track of what really works,and what sometimes only works for advertising

Agreed not the be all I have said before that I have found two ground baits that I like and I do also used krill powder.
I’m still using skrettings and swim stim but I will continue to use Marukyu when feeder fishing.

As a p.s is it me or are dynamite baits pushing up their prices?

kerryd

[TF_Fishingbaits]

Would be interesting if someone gave an impartial view on both types of Krill, from Marukyu and Sonu baits

Marukyu have an article in the Anglers Mail on their liquid Krill SFA450 which is worth a read.

As for Bronze Krilled Maggots, I wouldnt even attempt to comment 😮

I’m sure all baits will be worth a go in this improving weather. Some fair weather fishing for once!!

[TF_Fred Davis]

yes I think other bait firms prices are increasing due to the maruku effect why sell groundbait at £3/£4 when there are anglers that will pay £6.99 a bag, I for one am happy with the groundbaits I use and don’t use too much these days, even on the method anglers are using micro’s or 4mm pellets a lot of the time pellet feeders and method feeders seem to be more fashionable to use than the groundbait feeder, the bomb and pellet wag are even more popular due to being more virsatile as a catching method than just sitting on the lead, the groundbait feeder is very rarely used unless bream are the target species, some fisheries where they insist on an 12 or 18 inch hooklength then the groundbait feeder may be more popular and effective as a method but such fisheries are far and few between as most now allow the method or pellet feeder, although groundbait in some cases is still used on the pole with the advent of toss potts for more accurate feeding, slapping and pinging even this line has seen a reduction in the use of groundbait and is not used as often as it used to be and more venue dependant, which is why I have focused on the hookbaits or change baits mainly for use as target baits, my mate has already used both maruku and krill and apart from the texture there is no measurable difference that he can see, however it is early days. having a range of target baits when the fishing is hard makes sense to me, overpriced groundbait needs to be very very effective if I am to part with my hard earned. Still variety is the spice of life and Maruku has definately got anglers talking and thinking about the bait they use and more importantly why !

[TF_steve r]

@Fishingbaits wrote:

Would be interesting if someone gave an impartial view on both types of Krill, from Marukyu and Sonu baits

Send me a range of both products and I promise to be impartial :rolleyes:

[TF_FBlues]

Far be it from me to raise a point of order Fred Davis, but your ‘tad cheaper’ comment regarding the Krill Shaker in post #1 could do with assessing. Marukyu Krill Powder is £7.99 for 400gm, Sonu Baits Krill Shaker is £3.99 for 200gm. So if ‘tad’ means 1p for the same weight, you’re correct. Whether the components of the material in the bag are the same, or equal in quality I can’t say because I’ve never seen the Sonu Baits product. Pricewise, they are the same.

[TF_Wonkerscramp]

Meeeeeeeow Keith. 😀

[TF_Fred Davis]

Thanks for enlightening me Keith, however for ease of use the sonubaits shaker container for me is more user friendly and at least with the sonubaits you have the option of trying a smaller sample which costs less which is far more economical for us sceptics, I remember with previous additives like brasm was it in the van den eynde range? you opened the packet and as resealable packets were not in vougue at the time if not sealed properly it spilled all over your carryall, even with these sealer bags currently in vougue just a bit of powder in the seal can cause the reseable bag to become unsealed, the shaker unit is a step forward imo In fact the more I look at the range of sonubaits the more I am impressed I have been using there one to one paste, very easy to mix up on the bank should you decide to fish a paste line and of course hassle free.
In fact sonubaits has a great product range used by some of the countries top anglers so it can’t be bad 😉 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 :rolleyes:

[TF_kerryd]

@Fred Davis wrote:

Thanks for enlightening me Keith, however for ease of use the sonubaits shaker container for me is more user friendly and at least with the sonubaits you have the option of trying a smaller sample which costs less which is far more economical for us sceptics, I remember with previous additives like brasm was it in the van den eynde range? you opened the packet and as resealable packets were not in vougue at the time if not sealed properly it spilled all over your carryall, even with these sealer bags currently in vougue just a bit of powder in the seal can cause the reseable bag to become unsealed, the shaker unit is a step forward imo In fact the more I look at the range of sonubaits the more I am impressed I have been using there one to one paste, very easy to mix up on the bank should you decide to fish a paste line and of course hassle free.
In fact sonubaits has a great product range used by some of the countries top anglers so it can’t be bad 😉 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 :rolleyes:

talking about brasm set me thinking about other special additives that I have come across over the years and thanks to google I have found one that is still going after fifteen years check this link http://www.braddocksbaits.co.uk.

[TF_GLEBE1]

It’s all a bloody rip off 😡

[TF_kerryd]

@GLEBE1 wrote:

It’s all a bloody rip off 😡

you’ll be getting a reputation for being tight if your not careful.

LOL

[TF_Happy Dangler]

My local shop has started stocking more of this range as they reduce the amount of Dynamite stuff they stock (said due to big price rises).

From the pellet range have bought both the Krill and Tiger Nut hooker pellets. Caught 1st put in on the krill ones which always helps boost confidence. They are soft but stay on well and have a really oily consistency – not had quite the same level of success with the Tiger Nut pellets. As they keep for ages these are handy to have in the bag as a change bait. At the risk of being shot down JPZ’s are still my 1st choice starting bait for many venues I fish, with others only used if I struggle – I have never got to grips with expanders so JP’s fill this gap for me.

I’ve also been buying a few of the large bags of g/b in 2kg size mostly for method mixes and have been impressed with them from a results point of view as well as ease of use and value. I am paying 5.99 for one of these versus the 4.45 being charged locally for a 900g pack of Swimstim. At some venues I fish I know that others are having success on g/b’s from the same range which I am yet to try.

At last count I’ve got g/b in my bait store from at least 7 different companies so keep an open mind.

[TF_boss baitParticipant]

@kerryd wrote:

@Fred Davis wrote:

Thanks for enlightening me Keith, however for ease of use the sonubaits shaker container for me is more user friendly and at least with the sonubaits you have the option of trying a smaller sample which costs less which is far more economical for us sceptics, I remember with previous additives like brasm was it in the van den eynde range? you opened the packet and as resealable packets were not in vougue at the time if not sealed properly it spilled all over your carryall, even with these sealer bags currently in vougue just a bit of powder in the seal can cause the reseable bag to become unsealed, the shaker unit is a step forward imo In fact the more I look at the range of sonubaits the more I am impressed I have been using there one to one paste, very easy to mix up on the bank should you decide to fish a paste line and of course hassle free.
In fact sonubaits has a great product range used by some of the countries top anglers so it can’t be bad 😉 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 :rolleyes:

talking about brasm set me thinking about other special additives that I have come across over the years and thanks to google I have found one that is still going after fifteen years check this link http://www.braddocksbaits.co.uk.

anyone remember sensas Picardie great for gudgeon and skimmers on the cut

[TF_Wonkerscramp]

Yes i do used to get Weevels in it after a while.Pigeon poo and garlic,where some of the ingredients i allways thought it was cement dust. :rolleyes: It worked though.

[TF_Fred Davis]

I think I still have some picardie ( one pack half used) down the shed from the days we targetted the gudgeon on the grand union, bradock baits, i like most bought the geranium oil for roach, the two kilo bags of sonubaits groundbaits is good value at £5.99 I used the sweet fishmeal F1 recently for a lake win at marsh farm mixed 50/50 with green swim stim and had several tench over 6lb in my winning bag, it was the onsite shop (apollo) who advised me to use the mix on his fishery and it worked, I also used the sonubaits sweet fishmeal f1 groundbait to bind 4mm pellets on a method at gold valley in the garbolino clubman southern qualifier and it was spot on even though I only stayed on it for 45 minutes and 1 carp before going onto the bomb and pellet and pellet wag, I like this groundbait it’s not overpowering, smells great, mixes well and does a good job as well as being cheaper than other brands!
I know one of my mates is using the f1 6mm pellets in the sonubait range and is having a fair bit of sucess, so much so I am going to get a tub of the 4mm and 6mm for puddleduck to try on sunday, even though I may end up fishing the meat, again these pellets have a long life so it’s handy to keep them in your bag, normally I would do my own expanders but with some very good product around why bother?

In these times of austerity the whole sonubaits range is value for money imo

[TF_kerryd]

@boss bait wrote:

@kerryd wrote:

@Fred Davis wrote:

Thanks for enlightening me Keith, however for ease of use the sonubaits shaker container for me is more user friendly and at least with the sonubaits you have the option of trying a smaller sample which costs less which is far more economical for us sceptics, I remember with previous additives like brasm was it in the van den eynde range? you opened the packet and as resealable packets were not in vougue at the time if not sealed properly it spilled all over your carryall, even with these sealer bags currently in vougue just a bit of powder in the seal can cause the reseable bag to become unsealed, the shaker unit is a step forward imo In fact the more I look at the range of sonubaits the more I am impressed I have been using there one to one paste, very easy to mix up on the bank should you decide to fish a paste line and of course hassle free.
In fact sonubaits has a great product range used by some of the countries top anglers so it can’t be bad 😉 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 :rolleyes:

talking about brasm set me thinking about other special additives that I have come across over the years and thanks to google I have found one that is still going after fifteen years check this link http://www.braddocksbaits.co.uk.

anyone remember sensas Picardie great for gudgeon and skimmers on the cut

I just found a bag of Picardie in my tackle shed the out side packaging looks a little discoloured but its still sealed if anyone wants to give it a try pm me.

kerry

[TF_Fred Davis]

we had our LPR league match at Puddleduck today on the snake lake 66 fished so it was a full house we even had one lad turn up on the off chance of a spare peg unfortunately we were full so he pleasure fished, having drawn peg 40 not a great peg out of my section of eleven I decided I needed every edge I could get so I started on the meat using the sonubaits krill powder match over and I put 50lb 14oz on the scales for a section win and overall 6th or 7th out of 66 not bad from a tough area, however was it the krill that made the difference for me and thats the problem I’ll never know! what I did assertain is that it didn’t put the fish off! will I try it again I don’t know, I also tried krilled maggots and never had a bite on those?
Hogwash ? Possibly :rolleyes:
am I still a sceptic probably
I remember being told that florocarbon lines will catch you more fish because it dissapears in water I never ever saw any great improvements in the catch rate using that either.

despite being told that when used for fishing for marlin in around proberbly 100lb strain a significant increase in strikes on the lures occured!
we are fed some hog sh*t imo 😉

[TF_Loggerhead]

Geranium oil, what a lot of old twaddle. Next you’ll be telling us they’re putting seaweed in groundbaits.

[TF_Fred Davis]

seaweed in groundbait now theres something lets face it the stuff does contain natural minerals (Mainly salt?) which are obviously good for carp? or is it another con just to dilute the groundbait which where paying for and then put it in smaller bags, double the price call it some wonderful foreign name and declare the bait revolution has arrived!

On the back of that I’ll think I’ll form the anglers liberation front to counter crap fed to those less gullable and unfortunate souls

Well done by the way to Richard James for winning the LPR league sterling result.

signing off for now

The anglers liberation front- the angling organisation to fight against hogsh*t

[TF_kerryd]

@Fred Davis wrote:

seaweed in groundbait now theres something lets face it the stuff does contain natural minerals (Mainly salt?) which are obviously good for carp? or is it another con just to dilute the groundbait which where paying for and then put it in smaller bags, double the price call it some wonderful foreign name and declare the bait revolution has arrived!

On the back of that I’ll think I’ll form the anglers liberation front to counter crap fed to those less gullable and unfortunate souls

Well done by the way to Richard James for winning the LPR league sterling result.

signing off for now

The anglers liberation front- the angling organisation to fight against hogsh*t

First krill now would you believe sonubaits super seaweed shaker
sounds like a bit of band wagon jumping to me what next will it be hogsh*t

[TF_wightangler]

Just got a 12.5 kilo sack of crushed Moores expanders mixed with some kind of darker jollies groundabait for £14, – was a bit dubious- particuarly weevils as moores pellets -(unlike sealed sacks of skrettings)- i’ve personally found notorious for them – but a 3rd on the method (2oz beat me for second) convinced me the carp were’nt fussed. 😀

Still use Mary Q 131/151 on pole line for summer general mixed species- but ditching the £4.25 a kilo swimstim for the method now.

Been using sonubaits pre-drilled white boilies for a while now as save a lot of hassle drilling- but recently started using ringers based white pop-ups off ebay and drilling in small batches. Seem great- as if you put a no. 8 stotz on hooklink you can vary height and even fish them like a normal boilie simply by moving the shot-up before covering on the method. Mind you i’d prefer a brownish type of softish boilie to match a pellet colour rather than fluoro or white – but unless you buy boilies in kilos then 8 or mainly 10mm are the only way and a kilo soon goes off and hardens.
Used the sonu-baits liquid dyes in black and green and they seem to go much further than the powdered sensas ones,imo.

[TF_Fred Davis]

I do like the sonubaits pre drilled boilees, I was chatting to a mate who had just bought a pack of white chocolate 10mm and he was moaning as they were falling apart when he was drilling them, I then told him about the pre drilled sonubaits boilees and I think he’s now a convert :rolleyes: I popped into direct angling today and bought some f1 6mm pellets and the krill 6mm pellets to try as well as the spicy sausage shaker (there goes some of sundays wonga) amongst the shakers was the seaweed which I ignored however I regret not having a sniff at the stuff just to see what it smelt like might have to go back as there are a few other flavours I liked the look of. However after I give each product a try I will try to report back what experiances I have had using them and whether I will convert back to normal expanders and such like.

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