I have a Garbo M1 and its brilliant, rigid, responsive, well balanced and strong. Its not as strong as the Trilogy but far stiffer and more responsive, I had a 774 and really didn’t get on with it, I found it un-responsive and very awkward at 16m. Only my opinions as I know people really love the 774 but it just wasn’t for me. 😉

z12 m8 stiffest pole out there. will be ordering mine as soon as poss

Try http://www.polecompare.com
On that site you will get both good and bad reviews of all the flagship poles.

@LolB wrote:

z12 m8 stiffest pole out there. will be ordering mine as soon as poss

Apart from the Garbo M1 that is. 😀

if u want the strongest flagship pole by far get the trilogy maybe not the stiffest thats the m1,, but imo the best commie pole avaliable and the balance is awesome at long lengths , ive had a fair few flagship poles tornys etc and the trilogys my fav

i have a garbo 800 and its only taken two seasons to wear it out. a few of my team have the z12 and it’s not the lightest pole but is very stiff and strong.

All said and done you would be daft not to stick with Daiwa.

Out of interest what was the major pole disaster?

A car drove over his holdall with his Maver Elite 77 inside smashing it to pieces. 😮 😡

My mates got the elite 77 and that gets smashed to pieces just fishing with it lol

Over the last few years ive owned top end Mavers, Garbo G10 and currently a Gmaxx1000 and I held a MAPTKS825 at the weekend and have to be honest its the best pole ive ever picked up ( I have fished with Pros,Z9s and Airitys, Trilogys ETC)

If I was buying a new pole today I would buy it, bear in mind the lad in question had an M1 and retired it for the MAP !!

The map poles are incredable value at the mo as they fade out existing models the 825 is going for £1399, quite a few of my mates have the 625 and rave about how good a pole it is for the money and I personally thought that the pole was very good having had a quick waggle even better for the money at the mo (check with fosters) The 825 I have not handled so am not so sure as another mate has one and is constantly complaining about the breakages he’s had and says the pole is too brittle not sure if it’s heavy handedness although the chap worked in the trade and knows how to handle poles.

Daiwa all the way, UK made with loads of features like Interlastic kits, Diamond Satin, Taper system and V joints etc etc. I have a G20 and its fantastic to use im well impressed it’s great to use on rivers for silvers and also for big Carp fishes very well at full length as well. Quality piece of kti…………