Fish’o no shows

[worm drowner]

Is it just me or does everyone get pi55ed off when they put in for a qualiflier, check the list and find your about 50th reserve, don’t travel the 6hr round trip on a hope that you may get a ticket – only to read that 15 people didn’t show up and only ten reserves did grrrrrrr

personally I would ban those people who didn’t let AT know they couldn’t make it from that qualiflier next year

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

Agreed …BAN THE IDIOTS!! They will learn the hard way and may teach them not to do it in the future!!~naughty

[TF_Dave Pellet]

I think if I was on the reserve list I’d be hoping for as many no-show’s as possible

people have lives outside fishomania, and out of 130 people you’ve got to expect a few not to show, and they’ll mostly have valid reasons, from minor to major

would you ban someone who didn’t show on the day because of a family bereavment?

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

How many of them Phned up?? I bet there wasn’t many if any??

[TF_proper tidal boy]

Dave dont sit on the fence ,anybody who wasnt going would have known a week before if not more. They could of, or should have notified the relevant personS TO ALLOW NEXT IN LINE A CHANCE, but NO billy big bollocksjust stays stum ,stopping a genunine person A chance, yes i agree one or two might of had a family loss or problem BUT not 15 ??? so until fisho takes a sterner point this prob will carry on

[worm drowner]

A valid point Dave but it is only a phone call to the fishery or the AT organiser – both numbers on your ticket.

A few may have valid reason but not 10 – 20 which is common on most qualifliers.

Why stop someone else from having a chance If you know a couple of weeks before that you can’t go. That’s wot I’ve got the hump about

300 pegger last one – prob be 150 at the most

[TF_Dave Pellet]

it’s not stopping someone else have a chance though, if one of the 130 doesn’t turn up, then it goes to whoever has turned up from the reserve list, it’s up to the people on the reserve list to make the effort if they’re that serious about it

I personally have been to 4 fisho matches I was on the reserve list for & didn’t get the chance to fish

That said, I do agree if someone just can’t be bothered or if they have other plans prior to the day they should contact the venue at least

however, people who have every intention of showing, who have a last minute problem whether it’s a dead cat or car breaking down, you can’t criticise them for that – and regarding phoning – to a certain extent I do agree but I also have to say if I had a family disaster the night before or on the day, the last hing on my mind would be phoning to say I wouldn’t be there

also bear in mind people may not be able to get in touch, eg. car accident on the way to the venue, or even, car breaks down on the way & you discover you’ve no credit on your phone, or the battery is dead!

all I’m saying is, not everyone who doesn’t show & doesn’t phone is a nob, and shouldn’t be criticised until all the facts are known

[TF_Swimfeeder]

Not showing for Fisho qualifiers is part of the DNA within some match anglers make-up,they are self centered, ignorant and rude all unattractive traits other more considerate anglers have to suffer if they wish to participate in this competition.

Does the Fisho attract more of these individuals than other “ordinary” matches?

Probably.

[TF_dave smiff]

The angler has already paid £25 so it’s there choice.

[TF_polo2611]

i had i ticket for viaduct but could not make it due to my wife going into premature labour and us having a baby girl 6 weeks early yes i should have made time to phone in but had other things on my mind. does this make me an idiot i don’t think so sometimes there are things out there that are a bit more important than fishing.

[TF_dave smiff]

I think carpcruncher should take over the organisation of fish o qualifiers.
But the way he bans people there wouldn’t be anybody left to apply within two years!!!!

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

Your probably right dave~think

[TF_One fish]

I did a 230 mile round trip, number 207 on reserve list???
Got a ticket but missed the flier left on canal, I was last to draw and dropped a peg – must have been it.

[coxp001Participant]

[align=right:v9m8a999][/align:v9m8a999]What about the “returns ticket” rules whereby if you don’t cancel within a certain time then you don’t get a refund. People won’t bother cancelling if they can’t get their money back. Why should they. The organisation will only re sell them to reserves and get the extra entry fees as a bonus
This extra money doesn’t go into fish so where does it go?

[TF_Dave Pellet]

polo2611 – exactly the scenario I was getting at mate, congratulations by the way, hope mother & baby are doing well

[TF_Craigy H]

Well someone on the reserves at Lindholm will get a chance,my ticket is going back in post tomorrow as cant go due to work 🙁

Still got Partridge,Boldings and Woodlands left though 🙂

[TF_dave smiff]

I’ve got a ticket for Moorlands this Saturday but not going so there will be a space there.

[TF_welshmagic]

This is my first year at entering fishomania- I applied for 4 tickets and was lucky enough to get all 4. The first 2 (Viaduct and Stafford Moor) were pretty much non-entities and I got a harsh lesson in the famous fishomania drawbag. Both matches were £100+ per match,hard to swallow when you are out of it seconds after the draw. My other tickets were for Tunnel Barn and Moorlands. On Friday I made the decision to only fish one of the two due to cost. I had hoped to do both but in the end couldn’t justify the two. I opted for Moorlands as I can drive back to my parents (S Wales) afterwards as it’s a bank holiday weekend which makes the trip more worth it. Looked at my ticket and it said the cut off for notifying the Angling Trust was weeks ago so I thought nothing of it and just assumed that was how it worked and nothing else was needed. To be labelled (and I quote) self centered, ignorant and rude is way off the mark. If I had thought for one second that I had to inform anyone I would have done so. I assumed that was how the reserve system works, as you always hear of anglers turning up on the off chance and getting to fish. My decision was made the day before the match after much soul searching. I had hoped to fish (spent all week sorting prep,PM’ing people etc) but in the end I had to make a call. Would my calling anyone that late in he day have resulted in someone in the reserves being contacted?

If the same situation ever arose again then I would know to phone the fishery through courtesy and respect- but I was not aware that was how it worked.

[worm drowner]

Yes welshmagic. A reserve would be contacted if you had rang up.

[TF_welshmagic]

Ok- I will hold my hands up and say I genuinely didn’t think that was the case. As I say, I had fully planned to fish (ask Steve Ringer who was kind enough to reply to my endless PM’s last week) and it was only on Friday that I had to make the decision. I checked the ticket,saw that the return date was around 3-4 weeks ago so thought that anytime after this date you didn’t have to do anything. This is my first year of fisho so maybe I was a bit naive. I would hate to think that someone missed out/was late setting up because of me,and if the situation ever arose again whereby I have to pull out at a late stage I would ensure the appropriate phonecall was made.

[TF_crwhites]

i was due to fish the oaks fish qualifier…a weeks prep done…bait sorted..car filled up with juice…then at 7pm the night before my 4yr disabled daughter was rushed into hospital…the last thing on my mind was to ring up the at to say i wouldnt be turning up for the fisho match…if you lads complaining and that dedicated to the cause you would of turned up at the qualifier in the hope of a few no shows so you could get a ticket….but no…youd rather sit on here complaining about the fact that you havent got a ticket instead of knowing the full facts about why the no shows didnt turn up

[worm drowner]

Some valid reasons here and i hope everything turns out good for everyone. Valid reasons may account for 2 or 3 people but not ten percent.

Unfortunatly some people can’t just take a day off work on the hope that enough people don’t show up, plus diesel, bait and time.

This isn’t a point the finger thread – just asking that people ring to let others have a chance. The people that put in for as many as poss and then seem to pick and choose which ones they go to

[TF_NathanWatson]

Wish more had failed to turn up when I was 17th reserve at Woodland View and didn’t get on!

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

I hate these self righteous condemnations of no shows. We had an identical assassination of Nathan and his travelling partner recently. We far too readily condemn and criticise when for some there can be a legitimate reason that far outweighs angling and not showing up for a match. I fear one day somebody complaining / criticising could get it hideously and shamefully wrong. I would rather just accept a % will no show for nothing than launch attacks on those who have the most legitimate reason and could be deeply offended by such attacks.

[TF_NathanWatson]

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

I hate these self righteous condemnations of no shows. We had an identical assassination of Nathan and his travelling partner recently. We far too readily condemn and criticise when for some there can be a legitimate reason that far outweighs angling and not showing up for a match. I fear one day somebody complaining / criticising could get it hideously and shamefully wrong. I would rather just accept a % will no show for nothing than launch attacks on those who have the most legitimate reason and could be deeply offended by such attacks.

Which travelling partner’s that?????????

[TF_carpcruncherParticipant]

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

I hate these self righteous condemnations of no shows. We had an identical assassination of Nathan and his travelling partner recently. We far too readily condemn and criticise when for some there can be a legitimate reason that far outweighs angling and not showing up for a match. I fear one day somebody complaining / criticising could get it hideously and shamefully wrong. I would rather just accept a % will no show for nothing than launch attacks on those who have the most legitimate reason and could be deeply offended by such attacks.

I think he means Trueblue and his traveling partner…. Old news now~shh

[TF_Fordy]

Adam Richards was 40th reserve for Tunnel Barn at the weekend and couldn’t believe he got on. There were still three tickets that went back in.

It was the same at Stafford Moor – and also at Monks. Last year over a dozen went back in at Willinghurst, including some of the best pegs on the venue.

Problem is, there are some match anglers who couldn’t give a flying fook about the rest of their fellow anglers. Those who’ve been waiting for a ticket and are on a reserve list have every right to be put out when there are ignorant no-shows.

Those who have a valid, legitimate reason for not turning up are nothing to do with this issue at all.

But there is no doubt some just don’t show up because they decide not to.

All they need to do is make a simple telephone call to the organiser – and then no-one has a problem. It’s just common courtesy. I’ve seen far to many people milling about at the start, waiting and hoping to see if they are going to get on.

It also means those who do get on as reserves get far less time to set up.

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

@NathanWatson wrote:

@NW Cut Angler wrote:

I hate these self righteous condemnations of no shows. We had an identical assassination of Nathan and his travelling partner recently. We far too readily condemn and criticise when for some there can be a legitimate reason that far outweighs angling and not showing up for a match. I fear one day somebody complaining / criticising could get it hideously and shamefully wrong. I would rather just accept a % will no show for nothing than launch attacks on those who have the most legitimate reason and could be deeply offended by such attacks.

Which travelling partner’s that?????????

Apologies Nathan, TB and travelling partner

[TF_NW Cut Angler]

How many no shows do you get Fordy per qualifier?

[TF_Fordy]

Depends on the venue matey. Those like Stafford (long haul) tend to be worse than others.

I was very suprised on Saturday to be honest. I wasn’t expecting that at Tunnel Barn.

[TF_shogun969]

Fordy wrote:

It also means those who do get on as reserves get far less time to set up.

I was one of the reserves and just about made start time , if i had not got on i would have gone and had a day at Makins ( wish i had of done now as i had a crap draw ).

[TF_Swimfeeder]

@welshmagic wrote:

This is my first year at entering fishomania- I applied for 4 tickets and was lucky enough to get all 4. The first 2 (Viaduct and Stafford Moor) were pretty much non-entities and I got a harsh lesson in the famous fishomania drawbag. Both matches were £100+ per match,hard to swallow when you are out of it seconds after the draw. My other tickets were for Tunnel Barn and Moorlands. On Friday I made the decision to only fish one of the two due to cost. I had hoped to do both but in the end couldn’t justify the two. I opted for Moorlands as I can drive back to my parents (S Wales) afterwards as it’s a bank holiday weekend which makes the trip more worth it. Looked at my ticket and it said the cut off for notifying the Angling Trust was weeks ago so I thought nothing of it and just assumed that was how it worked and nothing else was needed. To be labelled (and I quote) self centered, ignorant and rude is way off the mark. If I had thought for one second that I had to inform anyone I would have done so. I assumed that was how the reserve system works, as you always hear of anglers turning up on the off chance and getting to fish. My decision was made the day before the match after much soul searching. I had hoped to fish (spent all week sorting prep,PM’ing people etc) but in the end I had to make a call. Would my calling anyone that late in he day have resulted in someone in the reserves being contacted?

If the same situation ever arose again then I would know to phone the fishery through courtesy and respect- but I was not aware that was how it worked.

So you admit to being “Ignorant” of the due process required ……..it seems I am not “way off the mark” with my considered comments.

I have fished a fair few Fisho Qualifiers and regardless of the venue, this problem always seems to arise, it is the same old story, some people will not take responsibilty for their own actions and look to lay the blame elsewhere, sadly, this is a reflection of modern Britain, it only takes a phone call.

PS, I am not talking about the small percentage that have something really important to deal with at short notice.

[TF_CHRIS.V.Participant]

@Fordy wrote:

Depends on the venue matey. Those like Stafford (long haul) tend to be worse than others.

I was very suprised on Saturday to be honest. I wasn’t expecting that at Tunnel Barn.

I was also very suprised Fordy, i was 16th on the reserve list and after making several phone calls i decided not to make the 240 mile round journey. I was gutted after making a phone call to Dean Barlow and he told my about the empty pegs.

Are the Angling Trust bothered by the no shows? IMO no they have their ticket money.

[Mongloid]

If something happens that is either very tragic or so totally out of the blue that there is no time or no possible way to notify the organisers then this has to be accepted……..but what about those people who draw a peg then choose for whatever reason not to even go to their peg…….. surely something should be done about this, as in this case even the reserves who may have travelled many miles in vain hope of getting a place cannot take up the vacated peg and in somecases can lead to an advantage to the people who are on the pegs next to the ones that people have chosen not to fish !!!!!!!!!!

[TF_NathanWatson]

@Mongloid wrote:

If something happens that is either very tragic or so totally out of the blue that there is no time or no possible way to notify the organisers then this has to be accepted……..but what about those people who draw a peg then choose for whatever reason not to even go to their peg…….. surely something should be done about this, as in this case even the reserves who may have travelled many miles in vain hope of getting a place cannot take up the vacated peg and in somecases can lead to an advantage to the people who are on the pegs next to the ones that people have chosen not to fish !!!!!!!!!!

A phone call on the day or even the night before would not help! Personally I think it’s madness to buy a ticket and not turn up, I have done it once when I was been sick all night and morning before the match! I would always fish my peg but if people have paid and won a ticket in the draw, they have a right to choose not to fish!

[TF_daveroberts]

I’ll tell you what’s really annoying is when you’ve taken the plunge to travel to a match when you’re about 100th reserve and after the draw there are 10 tickets left in the bag and you are 10th of the reserves who’ve turned up.

The AT official tells you he has to wait until 9.45 to be fair to anyone who may have had trouble getting to the venue (fair enough)but at 9.30 it looks like you’ve got a ticket. Then an angler turns up late. Not because he broke down or got stuck in traffic but because it’s what he does all the time and you no longer have a ticket.~naughty

[TF_jono]

sometimes you get lucky , sometimes not.

i was 60th reserve @ tunnel barn so didnt bother travelling from nottingham , by the looks of it i would have got on!

i was 25th reserve @ lakeview , 8 spare tickets but i was 10th reserve to turn up, so i didnt get on!

[TF_Johnny Mac]

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