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15/04/2012 at 6:29 am #51352
TF_kev34Haven`t seen an updated list for a while it seems to have gone very quiet :confused:
The TF Glebe Festival will this year take place on a Thursday and Friday May 17th and 18th.
If you are a member of the club site (http://www.total-fishingclub.com) you should go on there now and put your name down – your entry monies need to be in by Jan 31st to be sure of your place….Are we above 50 yet?
PAID
Steve Rowland
Stu Holmes
Chris Davies
Andrew Jameson
Lee Taylor
Martin Braithwaite
Jamie Adcock
Steve Shaw
Andy Shaw
Lee BennettIan Simpson
Harry Simpson
Dougie Walsh
Ian Loyd
Alan Shaw
Terry Shaw
Paul Robinson
Steve Brew
Ross Nursery
Mick PreisigLee Westwood
Mike Burrows
Carl Henrick
Andrew Williams
Jim Chessman
Deano Smith
Rob Hendrick
Andy Boffin
Mick Davies
Andy DayShaun Rivers
Kev Holmes
Darren Wright
Aaron Braithwaite
Ian Larnder Cox
John Pearson
Bob Poole
Mark Young
Ian Mason
Kev WilmotDavid Haynes
Clive Hamilton
Darren Dodd
Carl Daly
John O’Driscoll
Tony Walsh
Pat Mcinnes
Jarred Smith
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15/04/2012 at 6:32 pm #157520
tornyalParticipantDo you no if its the same format as last year eg do you need to bring a raffle prize ? some glebe newbies might not know 🙂
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15/04/2012 at 8:05 pm #157528
TF_steve rI’ve left Geeps a message suggesting it might be time to put up the arrangements thread just so everyone knows the format for this year.
YES absolutely compulsory for EVERYONE to bring a raffle prize – I might even name and shame this year LOL
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15/04/2012 at 10:07 pm #157532
TF_iansi01354Would be good to know what the plans are this year i.e. lakes in, draw times, fishing times etc
Also about now the 14 or black hydro and no pullers debate is due to start………or maybe not this year????
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16/04/2012 at 6:14 am #157535
TF_mickydAs far as im aware its still 14 or eqiv but pulla bungs are allowed from now on.
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16/04/2012 at 10:34 am #157542
TF_geepsterParticipantI’ve been away – let me settle back into work and I will post details of the match as soon as possible….
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22/04/2012 at 1:22 pm #157747
TF_iansi01354Geeps….any news?
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26/04/2012 at 5:55 pm #157915
tornyalParticipant20 days to go any news yet geeps 😀
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27/04/2012 at 6:39 pm #157959
TF_iansi01354bump
19days and counting!! 😀
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27/04/2012 at 8:03 pm #157962
TF_kev34Spoke to a couple of glebe regulars inc myself and we are willing to sort the draw out for both days thats if no one else is doing it….
We need exact numbers so lakes/zones can be sorted :confused:
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27/04/2012 at 9:01 pm #157964
TF_iansi01354@kev34 wrote:
Spoke to a couple of glebe regulars inc myself and we are willing to sort the draw out for both days thats if no one else is doing it….
We need exact numbers so lakes/zones can be sorted :confused:
Kev34 sounds like a great idea to me, you guys know what to put in and leave out and with the lower numbers the extra space should make for some great fishing!
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27/04/2012 at 9:17 pm #157966
TF_kev34@iansi01354 wrote:
@kev34 wrote:
Spoke to a couple of glebe regulars inc myself and we are willing to sort the draw out for both days thats if no one else is doing it….
We need exact numbers so lakes/zones can be sorted :confused:
Kev34 sounds like a great idea to me, you guys know what to put in and leave out and with the lower numbers the extra space should make for some great fishing!
We will get a very good idea after the first festival 12th/13th may 😉
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27/04/2012 at 11:29 pm #157969
TF_RossnWe will get a very good idea after the first festival 12th/13th may 😉
Glebe Festival Details http://www.teamgulp.co.uk/marukyu-festivals-glebe-fishery/
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28/04/2012 at 6:18 am #157971
TF_geepsterParticipantThere are around 50 anglers.
Lee got in touch yesterday and he can’t fish because of work, so need to speak to Russ or someone there before posting full details…. as I’m sure you know Roy is in Florida.
Lee apologises for not getting back sooner but he is snowed under.
I lost all my numbers a while back so if anyone has Russ’s number please PM it. -
28/04/2012 at 11:35 am #157981
TF_steve rI think you might get some last minute additions once they can see what the arrangements are so don’t bank on 50 at present.
Geeps, silly question but have you tried sending Kev Russell a PM ?, after all it is your site. LOL :rolleyes:
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28/04/2012 at 12:04 pm #157982
TF_RossnGeeps, drop Roy an email, he’ll answer
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28/04/2012 at 8:39 pm #158004
TF_geepsterParticipantOkay Kev can’t make it either due to work commitments but he says he will get back to me reference who is fishing and knows the venue well enough to peg it and run it.
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29/04/2012 at 5:56 pm #158047
TF_bondy123ParticipantGareth can you add me to the list please cheque on the way……
Thanks nigel
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29/04/2012 at 6:45 pm #158050
TF_geepsterParticipantWill do when the cheque arrives….
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30/04/2012 at 10:53 am #158076
TF_geepsterParticipantWaiting for some feedback from Roy Marlow.
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30/04/2012 at 11:22 am #158079
TF_geepsterParticipantMessage from Roy from Florida…
“Back on May 7
As the Admiral I am sure I can arrange the draw as I have done this task sometime in the past.
Tell the boys not to panic, its only fishing, not life threatening.” -
03/05/2012 at 1:28 pm #158214
TF_steve rGeeps. not too bothered about the draw& pegging being organised because we know Roy and his merry men will take care of it but with 14 days to go we do need a reminder of draw times, fishing, rules and any other things !
How about 1st day 10am draw fish 12 – 5. Raffle and day 2 draw in the marquee afterwards and fish 11 – 4 day 2, giving time afterwards for the post-match presentations for those with long drives home.
Anyone else got any thoughts ?
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03/05/2012 at 3:27 pm #158224
TF_geepsterParticipantSounds like a plan but the main thing is EVERYONE MUST BRING A RAFFLE PRIZE
I will post the details when I’ve spoken to Roy but we will work around something like that – a 10am draw on the first day sounds a good idea.
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03/05/2012 at 5:27 pm #158236
TF_kev34@steve r wrote:
Geeps. not too bothered about the draw& pegging being organised because we know Roy and his merry men will take care of it but with 14 days to go we do need a reminder of draw times, fishing, rules and any other things !
How about 1st day 10am draw fish 12 – 5. Raffle and day 2 draw in the marquee afterwards and fish 11 – 4 day 2, giving time afterwards for the post-match presentations for those with long drives home.
Anyone else got any thoughts ?
Can we not get a little longer first day?…Some people come a long way to fish the glebe so lets give them a little bit longer.
Draw 9:30am fish: 10:45- 4:30 We have less numbers than previous years so the weigh-in will be quicker….
Also why not do away with the raffle (takes bloody ages and i never win anything 🙂 )ask each angler to donate a set amount(maybe £20)..Then just draw some random pegs out at the end of the match with some cash prizes to the numbers that have been pulled out…Doesnt have to be a large amount but i would rather have a chance of cash than some dodgey groundbait and rubbish wine lol….
The charity will still get a few quid with 50 anglers making a donation…I know another well known fishing forum use this idea and it works very well without folding a million raffle tickets up ..:eek:
This is just my opinion so don`t shoot me down 🙁
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03/05/2012 at 5:35 pm #158238
TF_bondy123Participant6 hours first day like kev said and 5 hours last day so people dont get home late 🙂
Excellent idea of a peg raffle with just a few winners both days,people never know what prizes to buy anyway and no folding involved.
Im willing to pay £20-£30 towards the charity over two days 🙂
nigel
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03/05/2012 at 6:49 pm #158252
TF_geepsterParticipantI don’t mind either way – the bottom line is that it’s a charity event – but I’m pretty sure it will be harder to get £20 out of everyone than a raffle prize. But I have been wrong before.
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03/05/2012 at 7:07 pm #158255
TF_kev34@geepster wrote:
I don’t mind either way – the bottom line is that it’s a charity event – but I’m pretty sure it will be harder to get £20 out of everyone than a raffle prize. But I have been wrong before.
£10 for a strip of tickets plus raffle prize comes to more than £20 so i dont see a problem…It also does away with people buying rubbish bottles of wine from lidl 😮
I know for a fact alot of anglers bought 2+ strips plus there donated raffle prize last year…
You draw your peg you pay ya £20 donation Simples 😮
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03/05/2012 at 7:23 pm #158259
TF_iansi01354100% agree with the longer matches count me and the 6 lads I am travelling with from NW as a yes for 6 hours!
Day One – draw 10am fish 12-6
Day Two – I’d draw earlier as most with long trips will have stayed over so are staying local and still try and do 6 hours (might still be hungover as well though!!).£15 seems a fair compromise instead of the draw prize with £10 to charity and £5 back in peg prizes (10 x £25 or 5 x £50 back if 50 pegs) sounds simply and quick to organise. The £10 along with the £20 peg fees kindly donated by Roy would mean £1500 to charity with 50 on and £2250 with 75 etc
Either that or you get the spirits again from last year that I donated and won back!
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03/05/2012 at 7:36 pm #158260
TF_matt2007what ian says 😀
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03/05/2012 at 7:55 pm #158264
TF_carpless 1Participanti agree about the raffle i would be quite happy to put in £20 and if your pegs drew out it means a bonus for a few more beers and the charity still gets a large donation of every angler. It also means that you can be ticked off after paying so no more dodging bringing a prize like some did last year
i am up for the six hours but not sure about fishing till 6 seems a little late
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03/05/2012 at 8:17 pm #158268
TF_kerrydGuy’s
I am trying to find out how to get on to the list for the Glebe festival can any one put me right please,.
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03/05/2012 at 8:23 pm #158269
TF_bagginmachineshawParticipantI dont mind putting £20 in, good idea for me! As with the fish times, think i agree that finishing at 6 is a bit late (don’t get as long in the Longshoot! haha).
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03/05/2012 at 8:30 pm #158271
TF_kev346pm is too late imho ,by the time you have weighed in and drove to longshoot or premier inn its gonna be gone 7:30…..
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03/05/2012 at 8:39 pm #158273
deano1ParticipantDraw 9:30am fish: 10:45- 4:30
Sounds perfect and more drinking time 😀
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03/05/2012 at 8:51 pm #158275
TF_kev34@kerryd wrote:
Guy’s
I am trying to find out how to get on to the list for the Glebe festival can any one put me right please,.
Kerryd(wouldnt be mr dyson from the glebe would it?)
Anyway kerry click on this link all the info that you need is here….
http://www.total-fishingclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6536
Kevin sims
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03/05/2012 at 10:25 pm #158280
TF_iansi01354So just need a final decision on draw time and if the 7 of us up here need a draw prize or £20 etc.
Whatever happens I’m up for more fishing time please………I can drink anywhere but there is only one Glebe and its 2.5hrs away…….so early start or late finish I’ll cope…….oh and its Sat the day after so no work……..hmmm….think I may be booked on a match though just don’t tell the other half!
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04/05/2012 at 7:13 am #158191
TF_geepsterParticipantSo what are we looking at then? £20 in from everyone at the draw – £10 to the charity and £10 to some kind of payout that we can agree on?
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04/05/2012 at 7:36 am #158288
TF_matt2007£20 each day or for both?
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04/05/2012 at 8:08 am #158289
TF_RossnI’d have thought that £20 on the first day would be enough, pay at the draw.
Oh and after the bad vibes from a few years back, surely it would be better to draw for day 2 on the morning of day 2 rather than thinking about drawing after the day one match. Knowing which peg you are going to be fishing on the following day is open to suspicion and abuse (almost always unfounded 🙂 )
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04/05/2012 at 10:15 am #158293
TF_david3Why not just have a £5 donation to the charity at the draw, forget the raffle and get on with the fishing?
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04/05/2012 at 1:55 pm #158304
TF_steve r@david3 wrote:
Why not just have a £5 donation to the charity at the draw, forget the raffle and get on with the fishing?
Because David the whole ethos of this two-day extravaganza when initially setup was to raise as much money as possible for the chosen charity/charities on top of a couple of good days fishing amongst friends without it getting too serious in terms of prizes. Subsequently we used to get 80 or 90 people turning up most of whom knew they didn’t have a hope in hell of winning but enjoyed the craic nonetheless.
Now though it all seems to be about how much can we win and this, I believe, is the reason that this will probably be the last ever TF Glebe Festival !
I don’t mind if we don’t have a raffle as it means less hassle for me to organise it and I won’t then get the hump at the people who don’t bring prizes or don’t buy tickets but, for me, the charity aspect is still the priority reason for us being there for two days so whatever figure is agreed should ALL go to the chosen recipients and those who want to win extra money should organise a superpool between them !
Roy has always very kindly donated the peg fees back as a donation to what was then the ACA [now Fish Legal] and more recently the raffle money has gone to a different charity so with 50 people fishing the individual donation needs to be at least £10 per head to raise a minimum of £500, £15 would give you £750 and £20 would give you £1000.
It’s now up to those fishing to make a decision as to how much they want to support the charity aspect.Geeps, is there any way of setting up a poll ?
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04/05/2012 at 2:56 pm #158312
TF_david3[steve r wrote
“I don’t mind if we don’t have a raffle as it means less hassle for me to organise it and I won’t then get the hump at the people who don’t bring prizes or don’t buy tickets but, for me, the charity aspect is still the priority reason for us being there for two days so whatever figure is agreed should ALL go to the chosen recipients”]Isn’t that exactly what I suggested?
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04/05/2012 at 3:33 pm #158314
TF_steve rDavid, in a manner of speaking yes that is what you suggested but £5 would raise the lowest sum ever taken at a TF Glebe Festival as most people generously spend £10 to £20 on the raffle hence the figures I suggested.
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04/05/2012 at 3:36 pm #158315
TF_kev34Each anglers paid £40
50 People x £20 donated from roys peg fees = £1000
50 People x £20 which is the rest of the money we paid to gareth = £1000(we havent been told whats happening to this :confused: )
If each anglers donates £20 instead of doing a raffle..
50 People x £15 donation from everyone fishing = £750 all goes to the charity.
50 People x £5(part of the £20 donation) = £250 draw 10 random pegs so you dont have multiple winners like last year.Got a bit of a joke last year with the same coloured tickets coming out.Im sure people would rather win cash instead of cheaply bought presents from the local supermarkets :rolleyes: …This also gives anglers who are not as capable as others of winning something(deano and matt will be ok with this lol)
Based on 50 anglers thats £1750 to charity,not a bad amount and alot easier on the organisers who have`nt gotta faff about folding tickets 😉
Also by making the £20 compulsory everyone has to pay it!…Last year and previous years i know for a fact people didnt bring prizes and definetely did`nt buy any tickets!.
And steve the reason it will be the last Festival is that the clubsite is DEAD and theres no banter like previous years.Please don`t blame it on money or greed :confused:
As for a poll that won`t work as 75% don`t even come on this site 😮 ..I mean you only have to look at this thread with only 8/9 people commenting on it.
Over to the organisers 😀
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04/05/2012 at 3:45 pm #158316
deano1ParticipantI have fished the last 3 Tf festivals and have watched the numbers dwindle every year,i also agree that the raffle has become a tad tedious with not so good prizes being brought by anglers.Don`t think its fair to blame money on the fall of the Festival either 😡
I think the £20 donation is a good idea and at least i have a chance of winning some money back by doing a random peg draw, i won`t win anything at fishing 😮
Dean Smith
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04/05/2012 at 7:27 pm #158326
TF_fishermansteveThink the fishing times are spot on but has anyone asked Roy what he will allow , as for the raffle again i am up for a £20 donation and a chance to win some money back , although i have fished the festival for the past 4 years and not won any matches or any raffle prizes LOL but the main thing is i have helped the charity and i have been able to fish what i describe as the best fishery in the country. so come on lads lets help the organisers as this is a thankless task and lets make this and event to be remembered CANT WAIT !!!
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04/05/2012 at 8:18 pm #158325
TF_carpless 1Participant@geepster wrote:
So what are we looking at then? £20 in from everyone at the draw – £10 to the charity and £10 to some kind of payout that we can agree on?
i would say £20 in £15 for charity 5 pound in the pot job done lets just have some fun and raise some cash
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04/05/2012 at 8:42 pm #158328
TF_jammy1976Agree with kev reguarding times 🙂
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04/05/2012 at 8:55 pm #158331
TF_kerrydHi kev
Yes it is Kerry Dyson I am having trouble with the link on your reply I have managed to find
the address to send the cheque to but I need to know how to make it payable to could you please,
cheers kerryd
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04/05/2012 at 9:53 pm #158333
TF_kev34@kerryd wrote:
Hi kev
Yes it is Kerry Dyson I am having trouble with the link on your reply I have managed to find
the address to send the cheque to but I need to know how to make it payable to could you please,
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cheers kerrydYou must send a cheque for £40 payable to:
Gareth Purnell at 18 Laxton Drive, Oundle, Northants, PE8 5TW..Put you real name and your username on chequ reverse…
Kevin
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04/05/2012 at 10:25 pm #158335
TF_iansi01354I think Kev34 has got the right balance in my opinion.
Draw 9.30am fish 10.45 to 4.30pm
Everyone pays £20 at the day one draw – £15 to charity and £5 towards c10 x £25 draw prizes based on peg numbers – job done
…….bar whether the pools element is paid just sections or 1/2/3 and sections
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05/05/2012 at 7:50 am #158342
TF_steve r@kev34 wrote:
Each anglers paid £40
50 People x £20 donated from roys peg fees = £1000
50 People x £20 which is the rest of the money we paid to gareth = £1000(we havent been told whats happening to this :confused: ) Trophies and pools I believe but Geeps can confirm. I thought the entry fees after trophy costs normally paid the section winners over the 2 days !
If each anglers donates £20 instead of doing a raffle..
50 People x £15 donation from everyone fishing = £750 all goes to the charity.
50 People x £5(part of the £20 donation) = £250 draw 10 random pegs so you dont have multiple winners like last year.Got a bit of a joke last year with the same coloured tickets coming out.Im sure people would rather win cash instead of cheaply bought presents from the local supermarkets :rolleyes: …This also gives anglers who are not as capable as others of winning something(deano and matt will be ok with this lol)
Based on 50 anglers thats £1750 to charity,not a bad amount and alot easier on the organisers who have`nt gotta faff about folding tickets 😉
Also by making the £20 compulsory everyone has to pay it!…Last year and previous years i know for a fact people didnt bring prizes and definetely did`nt buy any tickets!.
All sounds good to me, looks like we have a plan !And steve the reason it will be the last Festival is that the clubsite is DEAD and theres no banter like previous years.Please don`t blame it on money or greed :confused:
The festival happened before the club, the club was born of the festival, no reason it can’t go back to what it was in the beginning ie open to all, but I do believe the introduction of the 2 Maryuku Festivals on top of the Ivan Marks weekend means that what was a pretty exclusive weekend during the Glebe close-season no longer has the same appeal because people can fish other matches there.
As for a poll that won`t work as 75% don`t even come on this site 😮 ..I mean you only have to look at this thread with only 8/9 people commenting on it.Over to the organisers 😀
You, I and everyone fishing it are the organisers and then there’s the few that make an extra effort to try and ensure smooth running and a good time is had by all. LOL
As far as the fishing times go it would be nice to have a later start on day 1 as some people travel a long way and for those that double up in cars 2hrs from draw to start would also be helpful, whilst day 2 works the opposite way with an early start and finish for those driving a long way home [this would then encourage more people to stay for the presentations as well].
It all depends on what Roy will let us do but something like the following might work well:-
Day One – 10am draw, fish 12 – 6, Day Two – 9am draw, fish 11 – 5.
If he won’t allow 6hr matches then reduce the above by one hour. Do all payouts, random peg draw and presentations at the end of Day 2 and then all drive home tired, broke and thinking what might have been. LOL. 😉 -
05/05/2012 at 9:59 am #158345
TF_kev34Steve im sure Roy won`t have any problems with 6 hours as all my club matches i book through the year are 6 hours and some of the late winter league matches i fished were 6 hours as well 🙂
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05/05/2012 at 11:38 am #158348
TF_geepsterParticipantI don’t mind how the £20 pools money is split…. I’ll leave that to those who run matches.
The bonus peg draw idea for the extra £20 sounds as good an idea as any as long as someone can explain it to everyone… and ensure everyone pays an extra £20 at the draw.
Last couple of years we have split the money between the Angling Trust and one other charity (think it was Les Webber last year…).
The glass trophies for the top three come to £80.94.
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05/05/2012 at 8:32 pm #158359
TF_kerryd@kev34 wrote:
@kerryd wrote:
Hi kev
Yes it is Kerry Dyson I am having trouble with the link on your reply I have managed to find
the address to send the cheque to but I need to know how to make it payable to could you please,
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cheers kerrydYou must send a cheque for £40 payable to:
Gareth Purnell at 18 Laxton Drive, Oundle, Northants, PE8 5TW..Put you real name and your username on chequ reverse…
Kevin
Cheers Kev
cheques in the postkerry
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06/05/2012 at 6:04 am #158364
TF_carpless 1Participant@iansi01354 wrote:
I think Kev34 has got the right balance in my opinion.
Draw 9.30am fish 10.45 to 4.30pm
Everyone pays £20 at the day one draw – £15 to charity and £5 towards c10 x £25 draw prizes based on peg numbers – job done
…….bar whether the pools element is paid just sections or 1/2/3 and sections
thumbs up from me :rolleyes:
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07/05/2012 at 8:16 am #158373
TF_MARKHLDASHas Daz Wright got it :confused:
😡 Shame it’s early this year, I’m at Stafford Moor that week and then there’s a little footie match to condsider
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07/05/2012 at 1:11 pm #158382
TF_mickydNo Daz doesnt have the trophy it wasnt there last year.
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07/05/2012 at 2:08 pm #158386
TF_iansi01354Who won it the year before then…….was it Jamie Adcock?
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07/05/2012 at 3:30 pm #158387
TF_kev34@iansi01354 wrote:
Who won it the year before then…….was it Jamie Adcock?
Spoke to jamie and he never even had the trophy when he won 😮
Jamie jones won it the year before :confused:
Skip the year before that :confused:
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07/05/2012 at 3:55 pm #158388
TF_geepsterParticipantSome cad has kept the trophy. I think we should be told!!!
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07/05/2012 at 4:00 pm #158389
TF_kev34@geepster wrote:
Some cad has kept the trophy. I think we should be told!!!
Ive checked back through the archives and last picture of anyone with the trophy was jamie jones(im not saying hes got it still)
After that all pics of the top 3 are devoid of the trophy :confused:
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07/05/2012 at 6:11 pm #158395
TF_geepsterParticipantMmmm. I certainly don’t have his number but if anyone has could they PM me with it?
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07/05/2012 at 6:17 pm #158396
TF_kev34@geepster wrote:
Mmmm. I certainly don’t have his number but if anyone has could they PM me with it?
I will send a Message to jamie on facebook now.
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07/05/2012 at 8:40 pm #158405
TF_kev34@geepster wrote:
Mmmm. I certainly don’t have his number but if anyone has could they PM me with it?
Spoke with jamie jones and he says he sent the trophy to lee taylor 😉
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08/05/2012 at 8:45 am #158413
TF_Kevin WI and several others are not keen on paying another 20 quid to add to the 40 we’ve already paid. Raffle prizes are the better option.
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08/05/2012 at 9:32 am #158415
TF_DoddyNewbie to this and first time attending the TF Festival but for what it’s worth here’s my twopenneth. As I only live 15 mins away from Glebe quite prepared to leave it to others to decide on timings for the fishing, doesn’t really matter to me but would prefer as long a match as possible so my vote for 6hrs if possible.
From what I can gather this event has always been about raising as much money as possible for the chosen charities along with a good couple of days fishing. I personally would prefer the extra £20 instead of the raffle prizes, 1 in 5 chance of picking up £25 if we go with previously suggested idea rather than couple of raffle prizes, maybe, which will only see light of day when given for another raffle. Feel more would be raised with the £20 route.
How many of us fish matches costing £20 all in and hardly pick up? Surely £30/day all in for the pleasure of fishing The Glebe and raising a nice sum for charity is not too much to ask?
Just my view and have broad enough shoulders to be shot down if i’m out of place 🙂
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08/05/2012 at 10:35 am #158416
TF_matt2007agree with you doddy, i dont mind paying another £20, its more than i spent on raffle tickets, its easier and quicker to sort out. :p
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08/05/2012 at 10:48 am #158417
TF_kev34@Kevin W wrote:
I and several others are not keen on paying another 20 quid to add to the 40 we’ve already paid. Raffle prizes are the better option.
But you would have to pay at least £10- £20 for raffle tickets kev plus the expense of a raffle prize :rolleyes:
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08/05/2012 at 10:53 am #158418
TF_matt2007good point kev34 :p
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08/05/2012 at 10:56 am #158419
TF_iansi01354@Kevin W wrote:
I and several others are not keen on paying another 20 quid to add to the 40 we’ve already paid. Raffle prizes are the better option.
Once you’ve bought a £10 raffle prize and bought a couple of strips of tickets to support the charity, which is what to be fair is expected and not unreasonable, your in the £20 bracket anyway……whats the differance other than its more work for someone? :confused:
Raffle means someone has to sell the tickets, sort the tickets and then draw more than 50 winners after the final match. A one off £20 at the day one draw gets our vote for the 7 of us going and then just peg draw for 10 x £25 winners with £750 to the charity assuming 50 attend.
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08/05/2012 at 11:09 am #158420
TF_matt2007agreed ian 😀 😀
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08/05/2012 at 11:17 am #158421
TF_Kevin WThe majority of people will have entered this match on the same basis as previous years. By all means change it for next year, but not this. At this rate I can see a lot of cheques being returned.
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08/05/2012 at 11:50 am #158426
TF_DoddyI personally don’t see this as being change just for the sake of it, but for making things easier for those who are putting their hands up and organising this for the benefit of others.
Main reason for attending is the fishing, no extended raffle gives more time for this be it day one or two. Secondly raising a bit of cash in these hard times for all for selected charities this is the traditional side of things and is one area that in my opinion should not change. Thirdly there is the social (piss up at the Longshoot) again each to their own but seeing as my house is closer to The Glebe than Longshoot may well nip over for a pint but thats all.If initially changes to the raffle had been worded differently say no raffle, £20/day to fish to include £10 peg fee plus £10 to charity less cost of trophies for top 3. With £10 pools/day optional. Same overall cost to fish, £30/day all in, slightly more money to charity and I would bet anyone a further £20 to the charity that 90% of attendee’s would have entered the pools.
:rolleyes:PS we haven’t even started the elastic and hooklength debate yet 😉
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08/05/2012 at 1:28 pm #158430
TF_bigoldbigbuttParticipantPaying the £20 makes sense but the reason why some won’t is because they either don’t take a prize, don’t buy tickets or both. I’m willing to bet if they take a prize it’s a cheap bottle of wine for less than a fiver. If you can’t fish it in the spirit you are meant to, don’t go.
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08/05/2012 at 1:47 pm #158432
TF_matt2007@bigoldbigbutt wrote:
Paying the £20 makes sense but the reason why some won’t is because they either don’t take a prize, don’t buy tickets or both. I’m willing to bet if they take a prize it’s a cheap bottle of wine for less than a fiver. If you can’t fish it in the spirit you are meant to, don’t go.
you’ve hit the nail on the head there mate :rolleyes:
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08/05/2012 at 2:21 pm #158439
TF_geepsterParticipantI tempted to cancel this event and refund everyone. It ain’t what it used to be.
Obviously I can’t really with hotel bookings, but this will be the last.
Arguing about charity money is not where it’s at for me I’m afraid….. how a war can break out over it is beyond me.
Right now we are koofed any which way. If we go with the cash idea one set of people is hacked off, if we go with the raffle another is…..
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08/05/2012 at 3:36 pm #158443
TF_steve rI’m not a peacekeeper but I have a solution. Most people who’ve replied have agreed no raffle and a £20 pool split between charity donation and peg number draw – as in most cases majority rules. If there’s anyone who really believes the extra £20 isn’t worth it then refund their money [there won’t be many !].
I can’t believe the extra £20 is that much a stalling point, some will spend 3 times that amount peeing it up the wall in the Longshoot or going into town for a Curry – this event is and always has been about raising money for charity, having a crack with your mates [and new found friends] and fishing one of the best [if not THE best] fishery in the country when even the Glebe members aren’t allowed to fish it.
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08/05/2012 at 3:39 pm #158444
TF_DoddyDon’t be too hasty please Geeps there are alot of people looking forward to this event me included. Simple answer as previous, no raffle and the £40 already paid goes to peg fees and charity donation plus trophies, seperate pools of £10/day optional and stand by previous comment 90% minimum will enter or £20 to charity from me. Sorted, you already have the money, job done. No one hiding when tickets are being sold and no one moans about rubbish prizes in the raffle.
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08/05/2012 at 3:43 pm #158445
TF_DoddyPosted at same time Steve but well said, another nail on the head :p anyway about these hooklengths 😀
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08/05/2012 at 5:08 pm #158448
TF_iansi01354Geeps,
Where is the war? :confused: Its just a difference of opinion sparked by simply asking for ideas, I have no problem with that and would encourage it! 😎
Change for change sake I disagree with but this change is in response to an issue raised re ‘the few’ not entering into the spirit in previous years with either no prize or a just a bag of grounbait, cheap wine etc and not buying any tickets.
I think the solution / change the majority appear to have agreed to is in the spirit of the match and ensures ‘the few’ don’t ruin it for the majority who look forward to this on an annual basis…..its nearly a decade old now!!!
I have only been twice and am sold on the Glebe and if a charity benefits by allowing me to fish there thats fine with me!! I know seven lads from my club alone who joined on the back of this one match and are quite prepared to donate to charity for the privilage of fishing the place!
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08/05/2012 at 5:21 pm #158449
TF_fishermansteveI agree with Doddy and Steve R this is my 4th Glebe and its the highlight of the year for me, there are 9 of us coming down from the northwest and i have spoke to them all and they are all up for the £20 its a great idea and less hastle for the organisors in previous years there have been 70 to 80 fishing this event but there has never been 70-80 raffle prizes
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08/05/2012 at 5:26 pm #158451
TF_kev34Head and brick wall come to mind! This is my last reply and I will go with whatever is FINALLY chosen by the organisers!.And Gareth there’s always someone else willing to organise a festival if you think this is the last one 😮
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08/05/2012 at 6:13 pm #158453
TF_kerrydIt’s all about fishing and raising a few quid for people that need it.
£20 is likely to be a fraction of the money you will spend your bait.
come fellas grow some and stump up :
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08/05/2012 at 6:36 pm #158454
TF_PikeyAgree with everyone who has posted in favour of the £20 payment rather than people spending their time trying to organise a Raffle whee some enter into the spirit and some don’t.
Has anyone agreed on Draw times etc as it’s only next week !
I’d like to propose a 10am draw on Day 1 to allow us from deepest Surrey plenty of time to get there without leaving at “Silly O’Clock” this would also benefit some of our northern bretherin as well.
Discuss
ps I shall be posting my entry fee tomorrow morning
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08/05/2012 at 6:50 pm #158455
TF_geepsterParticipant@kev34 wrote:
Each anglers paid £40
50 People x £20 donated from roys peg fees = £1000
50 People x £20 which is the rest of the money we paid to gareth = £1000(we havent been told whats happening to this :confused: )
If each anglers donates £20 instead of doing a raffle..
50 People x £15 donation from everyone fishing = £750 all goes to the charity.
50 People x £5(part of the £20 donation) = £250 draw 10 random pegs so you dont have multiple winners like last year.Got a bit of a joke last year with the same coloured tickets coming out.Im sure people would rather win cash instead of cheaply bought presents from the local supermarkets :rolleyes: …This also gives anglers who are not as capable as others of winning something(deano and matt will be ok with this lol)
Based on 50 anglers thats £1750 to charity,not a bad amount and alot easier on the organisers who have`nt gotta faff about folding tickets 😉
Also by making the £20 compulsory everyone has to pay it!…Last year and previous years i know for a fact people didnt bring prizes and definetely did`nt buy any tickets!.
And steve the reason it will be the last Festival is that the clubsite is DEAD and theres no banter like previous years.Please don`t blame it on money or greed :confused:
As for a poll that won`t work as 75% don`t even come on this site 😮 ..I mean you only have to look at this thread with only 8/9 people commenting on it.
Over to the organisers 😀
Okay here’s what we’ll do.
We’ll give everyone a chance to have their say until the end of play tomorrow and we will go with the majority of people who expressed a view. Anyone who doesn’t want to fish as a result of it, just PM me with your address and I will organise a refund….
From my side and despite some private messages I have received, I can see why the £20 is popular on a number of levels….
1) Mainly because it ensures everyone donates the same amount – there’s no doubt that there have been some raffle ticket ‘dodgers’ in the past and some resentment of that is probably that’s what’s bought this about.
2) It’s a lot easier to organise and people don’t have to hang about. There’s no counting of what we have raised… we will know based on the number competing.
Overall (as long as I have understood this correctly) it makes no difference to anyone who spent £10 on a raffle prize and bought £10 of tickets in the past… apart from a chance of winning a bit of extra coin in a fun random peg draw…..
As for the £1000 we have to pay out from entry fees, we just need to come up with a fair way of splitting this between section winners, day winners and overall winners….
Any suggestions for this welcome…
But to get the ball rolling we could forget who wins each day and just go for section winners and top four out of the main pool….
That would allow the following:
Overall 1st: £300
Overall 2nd: £200
Overall 3rd: £150
Overall 4th: £50Leaving £300 which if there were sections of five each day and 50 anglers would give ten section winners each day = 20 section winners overall = £15 for a section win….
There are glass trophies for the top three overall…
If people want to be in with a chance of winning coin for the performance each day, there could be an optional pool that just pays out on this basis….?
…. I’ll get me coat….
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08/05/2012 at 6:53 pm #158457
TF_geepsterParticipantReference draw times just need to speak to Roy but will try and make it so it will allow six hours’ fishing…..
With 50 anglers (and possibly some to pull out) it might well all be on the Glebe and not Foundation…. let’s see what Roy says….
I’ll look for a 10am draw on the Thursday, with fishing 12-6 if permitted.
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08/05/2012 at 6:59 pm #158459
TF_mickydI agree with the idea of the extra £20 and the £25 every 10 pegs, as last year it was noticable that some people didnt bring raffle prizes. So i think the charity would benefit from doing it this way, and its less hastle.
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08/05/2012 at 7:38 pm #158461
TF_DoddyWell done Geeps looks like we have a plan 😉 Just need Roy and his members to sort us some good pegs and jobs a good un, well nearly 😀
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08/05/2012 at 7:45 pm #158462
TF_carpless 1Participant@mickyd wrote:
I agree with the idea of the extra £20 and the £25 every 10 pegs, as last year it was noticable that some people didnt bring raffle prizes. So i think the charity would benefit from doing it this way, and its less hastle.
i would say more than a few did not bring a prize its a thumbs up from me and Aaron. you pay your extra 20 or you dont fish simple charity wins and thats what its all about.
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08/05/2012 at 8:19 pm #158464
tornyalParticipantGareth
if it was up to me i would not refund any money.if you cant put another £20 in the pot to fish what is probably the best fishery in the country then its time to pack it in 😡
thats just my personal veiw by the way :rolleyes:
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08/05/2012 at 8:30 pm #158468
TF_kev34@mickyd wrote:
I agree with the idea of the extra £20 and the £25 every 10 pegs, as last year it was noticable that some people didnt bring raffle prizes. So i think the charity would benefit from doing it this way, and its less hastle.
🙂 🙂 🙂
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08/05/2012 at 8:40 pm #158471
deano1ParticipantThat would allow the following:
Overall 1st: £300
Overall 2nd: £200
Overall 3rd: £150
Overall 4th: £50Leaving £300 which if there were sections of five each day and 50 anglers would give ten section winners each day = 20 section winners overall = £15 for a section win….
Why not pay top 3 who win glassware…4th place irrelevant
1st.£250
2nd.£150
3rd.£100Then 20 sections of 5 people over 2 days =£25 per section total £500
Better than £15 per section which seems a bit measly 😮
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08/05/2012 at 8:44 pm #158472
TF_bondy123ParticipantSpot on deano that mate 😀
Must admit £15 for a section win is a bit measly… 😮
You could`nt have worked that out dean have you spoken with kev lol 😉
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08/05/2012 at 8:47 pm #158473
TF_RossnThat would allow the following:
Overall 1st: £300
Overall 2nd: £200
Overall 3rd: £150
Overall 4th: £50Leaving £300 which if there were sections of five each day and 50 anglers would give ten section winners each day = 20 section winners overall = £15 for a section win….
I’d pay more for sections and less for overall
How about 1st £200
2nd £125
3rd £75Plus 20 x Section Winners at £30
How do you calculate first 3 overall ?….total weight, section points or overall points ??
Oops…typed too slowly 😀
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08/05/2012 at 8:53 pm #158474
TF_holwell53Fancy a practice for the TF festival ?????
Roy is running a 2 day festival sat/sun 12/13 may.
entry £25, for the festival.
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08/05/2012 at 8:59 pm #158475
TF_geepsterParticipantI don’t have any issue paying more for sections and less for overall if that’s the majority view. It’s not really about one person winning a lot of money, more about raising money and the Kudos… and if there’s an optional pool, that will pay out to the overall winner anyway.
In terms of deciding the winner, it’s section points first, then weight…
I think the only question is whether to have small sections of say five anglers, or bigger sections of say ten anglers….
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08/05/2012 at 9:23 pm #158476
TF_kerryd@geepster wrote:
I don’t have any issue paying more for sections and less for overall if that’s the majority view. It’s not really about one person winning a lot of money, more about raising money and the Kudos… and if there’s an optional pool, that will pay out to the overall winner anyway.
In terms of deciding the winner, it’s section points first, then weight…
I think the only question is whether to have small sections of say five anglers, or bigger sections of say ten anglers….
Geeps
The only problem with sections of 10 is you will have every peg in on pools 4,5,6,7
sections of 7 or 8 is the normal pegging this give everyone a bit of space.
I agree with section points over 2 days and in the event of a draw count back on weight.kerryd
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09/05/2012 at 6:13 am #158482
TF_geepsterParticipantI would have thought on pools 4, 5,6 and 7, five is a better section number? One of the corners normally dominates so better to give those not in corners plenty of room? Let’s see what the Royster recommends.
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09/05/2012 at 8:22 am #158486
TF_steve rMy vote is:- [Based on 50 fishing!]
Extra £20 paid at draw = no raffle.
50 X £20 = £1000
10 X £25 winners random peg draw = £250
10 X £10 winners random peg draw = £100
Drawn against day 2 peg numbers after match. [Something to keep the interest going while waiting for the results !].
£650 towards charity pool [this is roughly what the raffle usually raises]
= £100050 X £20 Pools money = £1000
Sections of 5 as it spreads it out a bit more [prizes and fishing room] with the payments geared more to sections [£25] and less for overall 1st, 2nd & 3rd as they will in reality have picked up section money at some stage as well.£25 section winners X 10 X 2 days = £500
1st £250, 2nd £150, 3rd £100 = £500
= £1000Leaves £650 + £1000 from pegging fees donated by Roy for charity donation
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= £1650 charity money raised.1st day draw 10am fish 12 – 6
2nd day draw 9am fish 11 – 5ALL payments made on 2nd day [makes sure people stay for the presentation] at the marquee [normally too much hassle getting back to the cafe at Mallory].
Now onto arguments about hooklengths and elastics strengths 😮 LOL
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09/05/2012 at 8:57 am #158487
TF_DoddyOnly ever fished Lake 1 before but looking at the numbers if only 5 fish pools 4,5,6 & 7 and we have 50 anglers turn up then wouldnt this mean every peg in on lake 1 if you want to leave out Foundation? Not sure this is going to be properly worked out until the Thursday morning and we know exact numbers could well be only 48 turn up in which case sections of 6 would probably be better with just 4 sections on lake 1. Sure the regulars will know which pegs to leave out if we can.
Probably not explained that very well but hope you get the jist. :confused:
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09/05/2012 at 9:18 am #158489
TF_geepsterParticipantLike you say hard to work out best route until we have exact numbers but we are all close to being on the same wavelength.
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09/05/2012 at 9:57 am #158490
TF_steve rWe usually have Uglies as well so it could be:-
4 secs on Lake 1
2 secs on Uglies
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09/05/2012 at 12:08 pm #158494
TF_DoddyEven better then Steve, is it usually just luck of the draw or lake 1 on first day, other pools next and vice versa?
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09/05/2012 at 4:25 pm #158496
TF_kev34@steve r wrote:
We usually have Uglies as well so it could be:-
4 secs on Lake 1
2 secs on Uglies
1 sec each on 4, 5, 6 & 72 sections on uglies is way too many anglers steve 😮
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09/05/2012 at 4:42 pm #158498
TF_jammy1976Don’t worry about pegging will be sorted with more than ease on thursday morning when the exact number is concluded, imo uglies is too unfair whichever way its pegged so best to avoid it stick to 7 peg sections on 4,5,6,7 and 3 x 8 pegs if req’d on pool 1 which will still allow enough space and house 52 which is about the number being jiggled around.
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09/05/2012 at 5:06 pm #158499
TF_kerryd@jammy1976 wrote:
Don’t worry about pegging will be sorted with more than ease on thursday morning when the exact number is concluded, imo uglies is too unfair whichever way its pegged so best to avoid it stick to 7 peg sections on 4,5,6,7 and 3 x 8 pegs if req’d on pool 1 which will still allow enough space and house 52 which is about the number being jiggled around.
Sounds like you’ve fished this place before.
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09/05/2012 at 6:17 pm #158501
TF_holwell53Ive heard he is the head gardener :p :p :p
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09/05/2012 at 6:29 pm #158502
TF_jammy1976Ha ha rich you have a nerve after what you’ve done to the foundation you are now undisputed chief gardener lol
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09/05/2012 at 8:03 pm #158506
TF_DoddyBloody hell hadn’t realised you needed to be a professional pruner to be considered for membership up there :rolleyes: does Roy allow hairdressers aswell? handy with the shears.
Just out of interest is Uglies one of the pools down slope from pool 1? guessing it’s the larger of the 2.
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09/05/2012 at 8:12 pm #158507
TF_bondy123ParticipantCan`t wait for this 2 dayer as i get to meet lots of Gays just like me 😉 😉 😉 😉
Stand up if your Gay 😮
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09/05/2012 at 8:29 pm #158508
TF_holwell53yes Doddy.
I won that zone on day 2 last year 14 carp for 144lb.
not for the faint hearted!!!.
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09/05/2012 at 8:52 pm #158509
TF_GLEBE1@bondy123 wrote:
Can`t wait for this 2 dayer as i get to meet lots of Gays just like me 😉 😉 😉 😉
Stand up if your Gay 😮
Haha none as gay as you Bondy, word has it that you have been in the toilets and drilled a hole in all the doors the exact size of your manhood ready for the event!!!!! Lol 😮 😮
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10/05/2012 at 5:35 am #158513
TF_carpless 1Participant@GLEBE1 wrote:
@bondy123 wrote:
Can`t wait for this 2 dayer as i get to meet lots of Gays just like me 😉 😉 😉 😉
Stand up if your Gay 😮
Haha none as gay as you Bondy, word has it that you have been in the toilets and drilled a hole in all the doors the exact size of your manhood ready for the event!!!!! Lol 😮 😮
better take some 6mm jpz to plug the holes with then 😀
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10/05/2012 at 5:22 pm #158532
TF_kerryd@Doddy wrote:
Bloody hell hadn’t realised you needed to be a professional pruner to be considered for membership up there :rolleyes: does Roy allow hairdressers aswell? handy with the shears.
Just out of interest is Uglies one of the pools down slope from pool 1? guessing it’s the larger of the 2.
Wait till you meet Bondy he’s a hair dresser (or should that be a cross dresser?)
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10/05/2012 at 5:56 pm #158536
TF_matt2007glad i’m not gay :p 😀 😮
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12/05/2012 at 8:11 am #158577
TF_geepsterParticipantHave tried to get Roy a couple of times this week will try again this weekend but expect at 10am draw with fishing 12-6 the first day…
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12/05/2012 at 9:10 am #158581
TF_steve rCan’t see you having much luck contacting Roy over the weekend as it’s the first Maryuku Festival today/tomorrow – at least some bait will have gone in before we turn up though and they should be ready for a munch by Thursday !
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12/05/2012 at 5:03 pm #158584
TF_geepsterParticipantWell I’m seeing him Monday so you lot might just have to wait till Tuesday then.
But I’m sure it’s gonna be 10am draw at the fishery Thursday… well kinda….
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12/05/2012 at 7:18 pm #158592
TF_mickydFishing 12-6 on Thursday is great but what time will we be getting back to the hotel for grub and a few jars, it going to be a late one.
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13/05/2012 at 7:50 am #158602
TF_steve rWith only 50 odd fishing Mick it shouldn’t be too late as we won’t be held up by the raffle and the consensus was to do day 2 drawer on the morning. Those wanting to hear the results should get them fairly quickly in the marquee afterwards then it’s 15 minutes back to the ‘Shoot, shower, sh1t and shave and dinner for 8.00/8.30 !
As for the jars – ain’t it always a late one ? 😀
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14/05/2012 at 7:53 am #158639
TF_RossnYesterday’s match (Fished from 10:30 – 4:00)
15 Anglers on Lake 1 caught 1,517 lb for an average weight of 101 lb per angler
There were 17 weights over 100 lbs in the match
The top weight (from Lake 5) was Andy Kinder with 199 lb 8 oz
The water is still cold and most fish were caught on the feeder, with a few caught down the edge in the last hour
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14/05/2012 at 2:08 pm #158646
TF_geepsterParticipantOkay had a meeting with Roy today although he is snowed under with another Marukyu presentation day….
The venue will be split into two zones on The Glebe only (not Foundation) for Thursday and Friday’s festival…. this is so you can’t draw the same lake (zone) both days.
Sections will be of 6-7 people with the payout identical on all of them. There are likely to be two sections on Pool 1 and on the smaller lakes, one section. Roy will work this out on Wednesday based on the entry of 52 anglers.
The match will be decided on section points first… and in the event of a tie on total weight countback.
Draw will be at 10am on Thursday at the fishery with fishing midday to 6pm…
The canteen on the race circuit will be open Thursday for breakfast, but only until 9am, after which it closes for a race meeting. So if you are going to leave the canteen after 9, you need to park over the way and walk over the bridge.
The draw for the second day will also be made on Thursday so you can go straight to your peg on Friday. This will probably be done after the match on Thursday, back at the marquee at the fishery, when you can see how people have done on Day One.
Fishing on Friday will be 10.30am to 4pm so people can leave at a reasonable time. Section and overall payouts will be after the match back at the Marquee.
No raffle prizes are required – however, everyone is required to pay another £20 at the draw. If they do not pay this, they can’t fish.
This will be split between section payouts and the chosen charities, we we can vote on after the match on the first day. At least half needs to go to the Angling Trust/Fish Legal.
There will probably be an additional optional pool but I’m not getting involved in this.
A couple of the Glebe regulars will organise the draw…. Russelli’s not fishing but I think Jamie is and he’s involved in the draw I think.
See you there at 10am Thursday…..
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15/05/2012 at 4:28 am #158690
TF_geepsterParticipantUPDATE
Just to be clear as apparently the above is confusing, the initial entry money is as always, with half going to charity and half to payouts. The extra £20 is split between a random peg draw after the match which anyone can collect from, and the charity. It means that everyone will contribute the same to the charity rather than some people bringing great raffle prizes and spending a lot on tickets, and some people bringing nothing and spending little or nothing on raffle tickets. -
15/05/2012 at 7:02 pm #158734
TF_mickydGareth I have a problem with the draw for Friday being on Thursday as the last time this was done a certain angler who fishes there alot went round to the far bank of lake one, he didn’t just trim his peg he removed every bit of weed it was barren after he had finished and he did the business the following day. Until this happened I thought having the draw the night before was a great idea, as you could have the craick with other people about their and your draws in the Shoot.
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16/05/2012 at 4:59 am #158749
TF_geepsterParticipantVery naughty to say the least. But given the nature of the festival with so many getting pissed on the Thursday night, if we do it Friday then people will certainly miss the draw. So what’s the answer. Can’t we just trust people?
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16/05/2012 at 7:00 am #158751
TF_steve rIt’s all down to whether the boys doing the actual draw mind doing it all again on Friday morning – I know one has said he won’t be involved if we do Fridays’ draw on Thursday.
I would personally prefer an 8.30/9.00 draw on Friday and anyone not turned up by 9 am can have their peg drawn and left on a sheet of paper in the marquee – if you can’t drink and get up on time then don’t drink and if you are that pi$$ed should you be driving in the morning anyway ?
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16/05/2012 at 7:12 am #158752
TF_carpless 1Participant@mickyd wrote:
Gareth I have a problem with the draw for Friday being on Thursday as the last time this was done a certain angler who fishes there alot went round to the far bank of lake one, he didn’t just trim his peg he removed every bit of weed it was barren after he had finished and he did the business the following day. Until this happened I thought having the draw the night before was a great idea, as you could have the craick with other people about their and your draws in the Shoot.
i agree Mickyd it leaves everthing open to cheating, not that i am saying anyone would it just leaves a doubt over the whole of day 2. Come the end of the day its for charity but people will always go the extra mile for personal gain. I cant see that many getting that pissed that they will miss the draw cause its going to be gone 8 before they are back and in the pub, and as long as they are told the draw finishes at a certain time on day two its there fault if they go home the second day without fishing one of the best fisheries in the country. Thats my feelings anyway i will go with what ever is decided cause its all about the fun and the laughs charity wins we all catch fish and you never no i might just might get a bite an a JPZ :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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16/05/2012 at 7:26 am #158753
TF_kerryd@geepster wrote:
Very naughty to say the least. But given the nature of the festival with so many getting pissed on the Thursday night, if we do it Friday then people will certainly miss the draw. So what’s the answer. Can’t we just trust people?
The easy answer is at the Thursday draw state that you are not allowed at your peg until 2 hours before the match on the Friday(you would normaly get 1 hour’ish)
This gives people (that can be arsed) the chance to clear thier peg if required.
The clearing of pegs the night before gives an unfair advantage over anglers doing it on the day.
I had heard about this issue but until last night I did’nt know who was involved but my veiw for what its worth is that people learn by making mistakes and do not repeat them.
The angler involved will be near the top on ability alone without the having an the advantage
of a peg cleared the night before.
with that said my worry would be other anglers following the same route hence the 2 hours before the start.
This is my first Total fishing festival and I am looking forward to 2 great days fishing at the countries number 1 fishery.kerryd
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16/05/2012 at 7:30 am #158754
TF_RossnLet’s do the Friday draw 8:30 – 9:00 on Friday morning. Anybody not there by 9 will have their draw done for them and left in the marquee. That way we can have the previous day’s results up for all to see when we draw on Friday.
If we draw on Thursday night half of the pi$$ed ones will have forgotten their draw by the next morning 😀 😀
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16/05/2012 at 7:53 am #158755
TF_SliderIs the angler who got caught cheating fishing this festival ?
I would assume he had been banned. A friend of mine fished the event where this happened and has not been on this site since due to being so disgusted at that persons behaviour !
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16/05/2012 at 9:18 am #158758
WoodyPersonally i would prefer a seperate draw on each day,having both draws the same day kinda detracts from the exitement at the draw bag each morning 🙂
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16/05/2012 at 9:30 am #158759
TF_GLEBE1Slider wrote:Is the angler who got caught cheating fishing this festival ?I would assume he had been banned. A friend of mine fished the event where this happened and has not been on this site since due to being so disgusted at that persons behaviour ![/quo
This has been done to death but the accusation of cheating is too harsh Mark!
The lad used his noddle and did the night before what he would have done on the day. If I’d have fished I’d have done the same. All the decent feeder anglers at Mallory clear their pegs that’s how it’s been for years and it’s an accepted practice within reason on all matches the same as cupping in with your feeder in the water!
If there was no rule on clearing pegs announced on the day how was it cheating what rules were broken? Therefore why should anyone be banned?It’s something we do all the time at the Glebe so it can’t even be viewed as unsportsmanlike IMHO
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16/05/2012 at 9:45 am #158760
TF_SliderThats how it was put to me but on reflection you might have a point Glebe.
Cheating is a tad harsh, I think the unknown is what caused my mate to be upset, if someone was willing to go and landscape their peg in the dark and out of view from all other anglers would they also happed to deposit 10 tins of corn and 4 kilos of groundbait in there too ? , in the end anything could have happened that night but I take back my cheating comment.
Hope you all catch loads and have a good time.
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16/05/2012 at 9:53 am #158762
TF_GLEBE1Fair play Mark, wish i was fishing too!!
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16/05/2012 at 10:03 am #158763
TF_jammy1976Firstly roy rich, kev and myself have spent many hours over the annual shutdown working on the pegs at the glebe most are now completed to a very good standard so trimming of the pegs should not really be required however it is a perfectly accepted practice to garden your peg if req’d. The gardening you and others keep bringing up was obviously timed badly enough to raise doubt however the tf is fished to mallorys rules so none were broken but looking back was stupid. As previously mentioned I will not get involved for a thurs night for friday draw but am happy to help sort the pegs again on friday morn as earlier time that is req.d also a third party to draw those involved with the draw peg that way way if I sit on a shed full no eyebrows can be raised cheers
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16/05/2012 at 10:37 am #158764
TF_redarmyin hindsight the 2 lads involved probably wouldnt of cleared there pegs but as others have said no rules were broken.if the ones throwing the accusations around still after all this time knew the match record of the 2 lads on the glebe they would realise these 2 dont need to do anything underhand they are 2 very good anglers who know the venue very well.
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16/05/2012 at 10:42 am #158765
TF_steve rJammy, I have no problem with you drawing on a shedful, it’s the luck of the draw – however if you should do so I’ll just break your arms to give the rest of us a chance LOL 😮
All joking aside though, whilst the Glebe members have an advantage knowing the pegs so well they’ve always been more than willing to give that info to the TF crew as well so it comes down to ability in the end and there are a few bandits in the TF crew who will give you a run for your money – MickyD and Daz Wright would be two to avoid in your section for example !With regards to ‘gardening’ it’s not [as people have already said] against the rules but doing it the night before leaves it open to speculation about pre-baiting so do the draw on day 2 and no-one is then in any doubt !
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16/05/2012 at 10:50 am #158766
TF_kev34Waste of time pre baiting they would scoff the lot in 10 minutes and fook off lol
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16/05/2012 at 11:01 am #158767
TF_redarmyhow would you know abdul 😀 😀 😀
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16/05/2012 at 11:23 am #158768
TF_bigoldbigbuttParticipantA few tips:
Don’t leave a plate of food near Redarmy.
Don’t bend over near Kev34.
Watch out for Slider’s floating caster….
I bid you good day
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16/05/2012 at 12:11 pm #158771
TF_GLEBE1If you draw on the thursday night, who’s to say that Roy wont have a wander down in his nightgown like Wee Willie Winkie and drop a bit of Krill Liquid in each of the Marukyu backed anglers pegs! 😮 😀
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16/05/2012 at 1:58 pm #158775
TF_kev34@GLEBE1 wrote:
If you draw on the thursday night, who’s to say that Roy wont have a wander down in his nightgown like Wee Willie Winkie and drop a bit of Krill Liquid in each of the Marukyu backed anglers pegs! 😮 😀
He can stick 3 ton in seaweeds peg it wont help lol 😮
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18/05/2012 at 6:02 pm #158849
TF_GLEBE1@redarmy wrote:
in hindsight the 2 lads involved probably wouldnt of cleared there pegs but as others have said no rules were broken.if the ones throwing the accusations around still after all this time knew the match record of the 2 lads on the glebe they would realise these 2 dont need to do anything underhand they are 2 very good anglers who know the venue very well.
Spot on! And as if by magic Jarrad goes and wins it again without pulling a single reed this year!! Best way to silence your critics, well done son 😎
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19/05/2012 at 8:07 pm #158917
TF_carpcruncherParticipant:rolleyes: Funny how certain anglers rear up on hear only to stir the shit??
well done Jarrad .. Top angling mate.. one to watch out for .. and for the future!!
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19/05/2012 at 10:53 pm #158932
TF_GLEBE1Mmmmm also funny how some anglers jump to conclusions and post without reading previous pages…….
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21/05/2012 at 7:59 am #158944
TF_geepsterParticipantFull picture report here including pic of Kev Sims 20lb common on the pole….. https://www.total-fishing.com/fishing-news/jarrad-smith-claims-second-total-fishingcom-festival
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21/05/2012 at 7:49 pm #158960
TF_Slider@carpcruncher wrote:
:rolleyes: Funny how certain anglers rear up on hear only to stir the shit??
well done Jarrad .. Top angling mate.. one to watch out for .. and for the future!!
Is that a dig at me Lee ? Funny really as I read the site every day and I dont see you on very often.
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21/05/2012 at 9:10 pm #158966
TF_kerryd@Slider wrote:
@carpcruncher wrote:
:rolleyes: Funny how certain anglers rear up on hear only to stir the shit??
well done Jarrad .. Top angling mate.. one to watch out for .. and for the future!!
Is that a dig at me Lee ? Funny really as I read the site every day and I dont see you on very often.
As Glebe 1 said that happens when people post without having all the facts straight
Sound familiar !!!!
kerryd
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21/05/2012 at 9:21 pm #158969
TF_GLEBE1For the record,mine was just a generalisation,not necessarily anything to do with this thread 😉
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21/05/2012 at 9:24 pm #158970
TF_kerryd@GLEBE1 wrote:
For the record,mine was just a generalisation,not necessarily anything to do with this thread 😉
If the Marukyu cap fits
lol
kerryd
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