How do ‘YOU’ fish paste?

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

I know its early doors yet but i love the paste threads we get on here so here goes.
I personally like a float with a very long bristle, and i like to shot it to the base of that bristle with all the shot under the float.
I then like to fish it dead depth and wait for the whole lot to disappear before striking.

But i have heard of people fishing with just a pimple showing, or even having the float slightly submerged and holding a very tight line, Ive even heard of people fishing the lift method.

So come on then lets have your paste rigs and methods…….

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

I forgot to add….WHY you fish the rigs you do.

[TF_Serious Sam]

As long as there’s not much wind / tow I’ll fish same as you, self cocking float that cocks to the base of the bristle (made these myself as couldn’t find any to buy) then set depth so paste pulls float down so 1/2″ bristle left showing. Very short line above the float maybe 6″ and use a pole support to keep pole still.

Will hit any sudden movement, 99% of the time it’s straight down but will also hit it if it suddenly pops up or even sideways, any slow movement is a liner so ignore it.

If the wind is up I’ll use a different float with shot down the line and a little overdepth so the tow causes the float to cock properly and the paste is below it at a slight angle.

If the wind is up a 10″ piece of lead core at the top of your line works beautifully, drop the pole tip so there’s a couple of inches of leadcore under the water and it’ll sink your line so it dont catch the wind and with and will also absorb the movement of the pole tip in the wind so apart from a really big gust you float doesn’t get moved.

I think the texture of the paste is vitally important, usually have it like a soft putty but will make it drier if aiming for skimmers as they seem to prefer this.

I’ve already had the paste out for a couple of weeks and have caught well on it.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

158 views, 1 reply from myself, and nobody ever fishes paste. Oh well ho hum.

[TF_andy cranes mateParticipant]

Ive fished it lots of different ways and caught, not of which I’m sure are “correct”. In my mind the texture is king. Would be interesting to know what split of people use the commercially made pastes or still use groundbaits. Float wise I’ve used blob floats before, when they go they go. I currently use dura float 9’s I think they are, slightly modified.

[TF_mike strutter]

only usually fish it down the edge mw self cocking float at dead depth , got baits atomic paste or dynamite baits halibut groundbait mixed abit sloppy
and generally strike when it goes right under

cheers mike strutter

[TF_dirkdiggler]

Ground up skrettings with the consistancy of slop.
Fed through one of the Preston paste pots with around 20 dead krilled maggots.
In the margins with the float at dead depth i get very very few liners and there is no doubt when the fish is on.
As mentioned by other people the consistancy is the key, just add the ground up pellets to the water till it’s like sloppy thin porridge then leave it for 5-10 mins and off you go.
You can tell when it’s even slightly too thick because you start getting silly bites and liners etc.

[TF_fourcanals]

me i love fishing the paste on the conker its paste hair rigged and you can fish it stiffer than slop knowing that the stiffer paste will not impeade the setting of the hook, just my liking boys

[TF_Dishyfish]

I’ve used the lead core and its a very good in blustery conditions, but the best by far when you can get away with it ! Is to use a shortish line with a couple of shot above the float on a tight line and that whack on the pole is a lovely feeling 😀 Mind you I have on a occasion had my pole thump like that and not connected with anything.. Like most shot till bristle with small bulk, then paste to take it down so some bristle showing. When on really shallow parts I normally do away with the bulk, use smaller floats and use the paste to weight the float.. Have fished it overdepth, more so when fishing down the peg with wind blowing in opposite direction. Drop paste in then pull float back over the top so its all in a straight line the float will lay flat on the water, so less affected by the wind. The bites on this are fantastic, either the float just whacks under followed by the pole or the whole float pops up & sits up before flying under.. Like most experimented with loads of flavous and additves I dont want to disclose all my findings, but Seaweed powder and brewers yeast or yeast extract powder and molasses are quite high on my list.. I love paste fishing so many things to learn about this style but finding the right measures of additves ect to add to your baits the hard bit…. I make all my own pastes and have full confidence with them, but what are your oppinions on the pre packed powder mixes out there… GOT baits Ringers ect example !! Mind you there is nothing better than catching on your own creations 😀 😀

[TF_stevied]

last time i fished the paste was in the 70s.
the paste was made from bread and milk,
fished under a small porcupine quill with 3 dust shots (No.8) strung out,
after roach and rudd.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

some top stuff so far, im going to read it in a bit more detail later and try and get my head around the self hooking bits.
Dishyfish, funny you mention additives etc. I’m very sceptical when it comes to additives and fish preferance etc, but the year before last i fished paste quite a bit on my local. I was always a firm believer that you should make the paste from what your feeding, ie coarse pellets= ground up course pellet paste etc. But 1 match i fished i started on my own pellet paste and couldnt get a bite, so i switched over the green swimstim and wallop started catching. i then set up another line right next to the first one and alternated between the swimstim and the pellet paste and the differnece was chalk and cheese. bites on the swim stim would come pretty much straight away and yet on the coarse pellet paste line i had to wait ages for a bite, too long infact and the paste just pretty much dissolved. Its probably only 1 of a couple of times that i hve ever really been convinced that for some reason the fish were showing a preferance.

[TF_swingtipbry]

the swimstim does pull the fish in the betaine that comes off seems to pull the fish in where normal pellet paste will not
you can biuld a swim up just feeding paste once the fish start feeding on it the swim only gets stronger
i dont think you need to strike it off all the time just wait till you think the bait has gone it will pop up slightly or will start to move across the swim
ive found on days when the float is moveing on other baits a good lump of paste can work well keeping the bait still

[TF_Slider]

For me there is only 1 way to set up a paste rig.

I feel that you need to have a float that is shotted properly to where you want it to sit, I normally leave 1.5-2 inches of bristle out and I place the shot at half depth ( unless fishing in less than 2ft then its directly below the float )

I fish around 1-2 inches over depth and only strike when the float properly pulls under.

If you undershot a float and then let the paste settle it you are in a situation where the floats bouyancy will force the hook from the paste and if your paste is too stiff for this to happen then its too stiff IMHO.

I try to use as soft a paste as possible but it doesnt need to be slop and after trying many many different recipes and concotions I have come back to simply using green swimstim straight from the bag ! The only time i alter this is by adding salt or Krill but this is a rarity.

How you feed the swim is far more important, this is the difference between proper bites and properly hooked fish and silly bites with foulers and a very frustrating day.

[TF_Serious Sam]

@Slider wrote:

For me there is only 1 way to set up a paste rig.

I fish around 1-2 inches over depth and only strike when the float properly pulls under.

If you undershot a float and then let the paste settle it you are in a situation where the floats bouyancy will force the hook from the paste and if your paste is too stiff for this to happen then its too stiff IMHO.

I read this is how steve ringer fishes it too but I don’t understand how you can know when the paste comes off as the float will sit just the same – I want the paste cocking the float so it pops up when the paste has dissolved and I know it needs another.

Are you saying you make the paste thick so it doesn’t come off the hook ? if so surely that’s not getting all the attraction in the swim that you should as the paste should be disolving and covering the bottom in sludge.

[TF_Fishingbaits]

There’s an article by Jamie Masson from Marukyu’s pro on our web site on the techniques he uses for fishing paste, you may find it an interesting read.

http://fishingbaits.biz/news/carp-on-paste/

Here’s an extract from the article on the rig…which is what I think was asked at the beginning of the thread.

With this type of paste fishing shotting needs to be simple, and a No11 right under the float and three No11s as a simple bulk about eight inches from the hook is perfect. This slightly undershots the float. The paste hook bait is then fished at exact dead depth and takes the bristle down to a small pimple.

Even though my hook bait is only the size of a 5p coin I still like to use a large hook, and a size 12 Maver Invincible CS21 fits the bill perfectly. Line is kept simple and I use 0.148mm Genesis straight through. Where possible I still like to fish my rigs straight through, which in my opinion makes the rig more durable. This is important as the line takes a lot of stick with this type of fishing.

[TF_Slider]

@Serious Sam wrote:

@Slider wrote:

For me there is only 1 way to set up a paste rig.

I fish around 1-2 inches over depth and only strike when the float properly pulls under.

If you undershot a float and then let the paste settle it you are in a situation where the floats bouyancy will force the hook from the paste and if your paste is too stiff for this to happen then its too stiff IMHO.

I read this is how steve ringer fishes it too but I don’t understand how you can know when the paste comes off as the float will sit just the same – I want the paste cocking the float so it pops up when the paste has dissolved and I know it needs another.

Are you saying you make the paste thick so it doesn’t come off the hook ? if so surely that’s not getting all the attraction in the swim that you should as the paste should be disolving and covering the bottom in sludge.

I fish very soft pastes, sometime sloppy if the fishing requires it.

You can tell when the paste has come off and its actually very simple. Most water has tow so when you anchor your float against a blob of paste it will sit at a slight angle ( more so if the tow is heavy) but remain stationary. When the paste has melted off the hook the float will sit up or start to move across the swim with the tow, you simply do not need to shot the float with the paste to tell if the bait has come off. If you keep a rig still even the softest paste will stay with your hook for a good few mins so long as you have a properly shotted float !!

And just for a bit of thinking, a dry paste breaks down far far quicker than a wet paste ! The more water in paste ( to a point) then the slower it breaks down around your hook. A dry mix will explode off around your hook as the water penetrates it.

Have a read up on Brownian Motion !! V interesting stuff if you are into your paste fishing.

[TF_Serious Sam]

@Slider wrote:

@Serious Sam wrote:

@Slider wrote:

For me there is only 1 way to set up a paste rig.

I fish around 1-2 inches over depth and only strike when the float properly pulls under.

If you undershot a float and then let the paste settle it you are in a situation where the floats bouyancy will force the hook from the paste and if your paste is too stiff for this to happen then its too stiff IMHO.

I read this is how steve ringer fishes it too but I don’t understand how you can know when the paste comes off as the float will sit just the same – I want the paste cocking the float so it pops up when the paste has dissolved and I know it needs another.

Are you saying you make the paste thick so it doesn’t come off the hook ? if so surely that’s not getting all the attraction in the swim that you should as the paste should be disolving and covering the bottom in sludge.

I fish very soft pastes, sometime sloppy if the fishing requires it.

You can tell when the paste has come off and its actually very simple. Most water has tow so when you anchor your float against a blob of paste it will sit at a slight angle ( more so if the tow is heavy) but remain stationary. When the paste has melted off the hook the float will sit up or start to move across the swim with the tow, you simply do not need to shot the float with the paste to tell if the bait has come off. If you keep a rig still even the softest paste will stay with your hook for a good few mins so long as you have a properly shotted float !!

And just for a bit of thinking, a dry paste breaks down far far quicker than a wet paste ! The more water in paste ( to a point) then the slower it breaks down around your hook. A dry mix will explode off around your hook as the water penetrates it.

Have a read up on Brownian Motion !! V interesting stuff if you are into your paste fishing.

Good stuff, usually abandon the paste if it’s towing hard – will give this a go next time.

[TF_Johnny Mac]

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[TF_arrow otterParticipant]

Catching on paste already and i dont use any well known make or ever have done just make up my own, also love fishing it shallow and this can be an awesome method when it goes, use hand made floats with no stems, the bodies are about half an inch with about an inch of 0.20 line thru it and a small bait stopper attatched to put the rig onto your line,these can be fished in very shallow water and cock instantly, which helps when theyre on it big time.

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