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    • #46981

      TF_Andy L
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        Hi all I’m tying some lasso hair rigs for the method feeder and pellet waggler ready for my trip to twin oaks and acorn at whiteacres as I havnt been fishing for a while due to work commitments I’m getting all flustered setting the length of the loop from the hook how long should I make it and do I need to make different length for different size pellets what do you all do cheers

      • #142577

        TF_Waveney One

          You need different sized lasso’s for different sized pellets. You also need a length of hair in order to open the loop up to insert a new pellet when necessary.

          The way I make them up is as follows. Tie a grinner knot to form the lasso and insert a pellet and tighten the lasso. I then tie that to the hook using the knotless knot. I leave a small length of the hair between the bend of the hook and the pellet. It can pay to vary the distance but generally I leave not much more than the equivalent of 2 pellet diameters, normally one. When fishing for skimmers I tend to have the pellet almost touching the bend of the hook.

          I normally use a bench fly vice to hold the hook which means it is very easy to get the length of the hair as I want it.

        • #142579

          TF_NathanWatson

            I’m impressed, training a fly to hold a hook!

          • #142589

            TF_scarf

              Don’t give up the day job Nathan.

            • #142597

              Nez

                Do your lasso, put a pellet in it and proceed to tie a knotless knot. For an 8mm pellet you want an 8mm gap between the pellet and the bend of the hook, 6mm for 6mm etc, etc.

                Set the gap and finish the knot.

                Personally i would not bother wit a lasso cos your burying the bait anyway. Just use a band.

              • #142598

                Nez

                  Lasso = Gay by the way:)

                • #142609

                  TF_Waveney One

                    I would have thought that using a stocking garter was very gay ~naughty ~naughty

                    Us men, like John Wayne and Clint Eastwood, always use the lasso ~clap ~clap

                  • #142610

                    TF_Waveney One

                      @NathanWatson wrote:

                      I’m impressed, training a fly to hold a hook!

                      As for you Nathan, I don’t expect that you ever tie rigs but borrow them (never to be returned) from those pegs around you!

                      Anyway it was a very special gozzer fly that I trained.

                    • #142615

                      TF_NathanWatson

                        No, I tie them myself, on the bank, with my fingers! Would NEVER use 1 that ANYONE else had tied!

                      • #142620

                        TF_Smed

                          i find that when i put pellets in the lasso and tie a few my hands get oily from the pellets and when i have a butty it tastes funny 🙁
                          best way to do it is get a nozzle of a silicone tube, mark 2 lines near the end one for 8mm pellets one for 6mm pellets, then after tying the grinner knot tighten it down to the end of the nozzle and slide it up to the required line, after that thread the line through the back of the hook and i have the knot in line with the bottom of the hook and then knotless knot, this gives plenty of room to open up the lasso for another pellet, and seems to be just about right length, if you think you need a longer length u can put a 6mm pellet in the 8mm hooklengths, or a ultra short one put a 8mm pellet in a 6mm hooklength, hope this makes sense!
                          oh and my buttys taste allright while im tying em….
                          oh and u can use a silicone nozzle to open up the lasso while fishing, less fiddly than them bandy clit tickler things! lol

                        • #142628

                          TF_Andy L
                          Participant

                            Thanks guys I’ve got it now

                          • #142768

                            TF_NathanWatson

                              @Smed wrote:

                              i find that when i put pellets in the lasso and tie a few my hands get oily from the pellets and when i have a butty it tastes funny 🙁
                              best way to do it is get a nozzle of a silicone tube, mark 2 lines near the end one for 8mm pellets one for 6mm pellets, then after tying the grinner knot tighten it down to the end of the nozzle and slide it up to the required line, after that thread the line through the back of the hook and i have the knot in line with the bottom of the hook and then knotless knot, this gives plenty of room to open up the lasso for another pellet, and seems to be just about right length, if you think you need a longer length u can put a 6mm pellet in the 8mm hooklengths, or a ultra short one put a 8mm pellet in a 6mm hooklength, hope this makes sense!
                              oh and my buttys taste allright while im tying em….
                              oh and u can use a silicone nozzle to open up the lasso while fishing, less fiddly than them bandy clit tickler things! lol

                              Surely you pass the line through the front of the eye first!?

                            • #142783

                              TF_Smed

                                @NathanWatson wrote:

                                @Smed wrote:

                                i find that when i put pellets in the lasso and tie a few my hands get oily from the pellets and when i have a butty it tastes funny 🙁
                                best way to do it is get a nozzle of a silicone tube, mark 2 lines near the end one for 8mm pellets one for 6mm pellets, then after tying the grinner knot tighten it down to the end of the nozzle and slide it up to the required line, after that thread the line through the back of the hook and i have the knot in line with the bottom of the hook and then knotless knot, this gives plenty of room to open up the lasso for another pellet, and seems to be just about right length, if you think you need a longer length u can put a 6mm pellet in the 8mm hooklengths, or a ultra short one put a 8mm pellet in a 6mm hooklength, hope this makes sense!
                                oh and my buttys taste allright while im tying em….
                                oh and u can use a silicone nozzle to open up the lasso while fishing, less fiddly than them bandy clit tickler things! lol

                                Surely you pass the line through the front of the eye first!?

                                errr NO! throught the back of the eye, whip down the shank, then back through the back of the eye!
                                knotless knot…….

                              • #142784

                                TF_NathanWatson

                                  It would come apart! Has to be through opposite sides in my experience anyway!?

                                • #142788

                                  TF_Smed

                                    its impossible for it to come apart!
                                    ive allways done it through the back of the hook to keep the hair at the back
                                    and back through the back of the hook to give it the aggresive angle…

                                  • #142817

                                    TF_Waveney One

                                      @Smed wrote:

                                      its impossible for it to come apart!
                                      ive allways done it through the back of the hook to keep the hair at the back
                                      and back through the back of the hook to give it the aggresive angle…

                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8LufZ_rmk

                                      It depends upon which end of the line is going through the eye. If you have already tied the lasoo then the end which will eventually be attached to the feeder or the mainline will go through as Smed says.

                                      If you are tying the lasoo in the hair after the line has gone through the eye then Nathan is right as far as I can see and as I understand it.

                                    • #142818

                                      TF_Smed

                                        ahh right i get what hes saying now!, but as i explained in how i tie my lasso, i tie that first then the hook after……..
                                        got me wondering if i was doing it right lol!

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