Marukyu JPz pellets ?

[TF_rayroy]

Are these available yet? – and who stocks them – near sunny canvey island essex OR on the internet?

Thanks
ray

[TF_FBlues]

They’re available Rayroy but selling like hot cakes and shops are really struggling to keep them in stock apparently as supplies are quite limited. Marukyu have been shocked at the take-up of them. Some shops have them but not all shops stock Marukyu. Pete’s Tackle in Sarfend are listed as stockists or mail order.

[TF_Mino]

Marukyu are more than welcome to have my two jars of JPzs back.

Last week i was catching a skimmer or small carp a chuck until i put a JPz on. I didn’t even get an indication. Put on a worm/maggot/expander/banded hard pellet and it was a bite a chuck again.

Yesterday whenever it tried to hair rig a JPz onto a band it split into two. I gave up after a dozen or so pellets.

Waste of money…………just my opinion of course.

Ewan

[TF_JohnH]

Had the same problem Mino, hair rigged just like Jamie Masson in the current Match fishing and they just fell off or split. I just gave up. Tried them direct on the hook and seemed ok but caught nowt on them yet.

[TF_joffmiester]

😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 £5.99 a small pot you lot must be made of money 😀 😀 😀 ask rob wootton what he catches on !!!!
very often just maggot corn or caster no thrills just a top angler ,when he won Ivans match he sat inbetween two marukyu boys 202lb later he’d blown them away 😀 😀 😀
the only thing marukyu catches is the angler 😉 😉 it used to be floats 😀 😀 😀

SENSAS till i dye :p :p :p

[TF_Chum MixerParticipant]

Does Marukyu mean lighter on the wallet in Asian ? :rolleyes:

[TF_FBlues]

Jamie Masson must be brilliant the fish he catches on them. He can even hair rig them. Maybe he has a different technique eh? Mino: They’re going for £12 and up + p&p a jar on eBay – now’s your chance – or sell them to Rayroy at what you paid for them.

[TF_justin case]

Great little pellets caught me a fair few fish when things aint been going right and definatly have a place in my bait bag

[TF_Rutilus]

They are on ebay for £14.99 but nobody has bought them!! lol

[TF_holwell53]

Thats because they only retail at £5.99

[TF_Cutnut]

MARlow’s UK Yen Umbrella

and more power to him for spotting a good product.

Not tried the JPZ pellet so can’t comment on them.

However, I’ve used the paste mixes and have learn’t how to catch on them,and been surprised at what the fish will take and caught several large carp ove 6lb on what can only be described as a ‘drip of snot’. Very odd stuff to use but crucians seem to luv the fibre paste, especially as it turns more snotty on the hook.

[TF_JohnH]

Keith, Jamie was simply pulling a bait band through them as there was a photo in the said article. I tried this and they would not hold or split. Maybe he had superglue on the band or maybe I have a bad batch. I cant rule out though that Jamie benefits if sales increase. I also do not think any angler worth his salt would not promote rubbish, so clearly I need to do some more work before jumping to conclusions.
Using a method feeder with burried pellets helps, I recall Darren Cox telling me some time ago that he often caught on the method with a bare hook so maybe Jamies pellets are not as magic as he thinks!!

[TF_Gavin]

Jamie (Mc)Masson also caught plenty of fish before MaryQ was ever heard of in this country!

[TF_justin case]

Just hook them like any other bait

[TF_FBlues]

So why would Jamie (Mc)Masson compromise his winability by using inferior products? He CLEARLY feels he’ll catch more and win more. You may not know this but he was buying the stuff (as was Andy Kinder) and using it LONG before they became part of the pro-team. They approached Marukyu, NOT the other way round, after success at Hallcroft using the baits.

JohnH: I’ve had no trouble with them splitting but I use the smallest bands I can get away with. You can buy them in HUGE bulk as 2mm orthodontic bands from dental suppliers or just buy the Drennan Natural Latex Pellet Bands in ‘micro’ size. Use a fine baiting needle, stretch the band out and slide the JPz on. Or, as justin case says, stick them on a hook!

[TF_JohnH]

Thanks Keith I will experiment!

[TF_oddman]

Rubbish tried them and never had a bite. i was defo caught by them.

[TF_Gavin]

Keith, where did I say it was inferior? I just think it’s a fallacy to say it’s good cos Mr X uses and catches on it when Mr X caught well before using other baits.

[TF_ross m]

I think they are great ,have cought me fish when everything has failed,I have no problem getting them on a hair rigged band can get them on in seconds 🙂

[TF_FBlues]

You tried it Gavin? Any of it? Taking experienced match anglers out of the equation for a moment, Marukyu’s range is the ONLY groundbait I have ever been able to mix perfectly, each and every time, right out of the bag using the right amount of water – and it tells you that amount – by hand. I was with some England internationals last week; to a man, well all bar one, used a drill to mix a kilo or so of bait to get it right. One man didn’t and his bait, a well-known, proprietary brand, was a mix of lumps and powder. He said: “I didn’t have time to get it right.” This is a current England international using one of the most popular mixes from the most popular brands of groundbait ever. How on this Earth can a novice be expected to be able to use it?

Now I’ve had plenty of bad days on maggot, I’ve blanked on bloodworm and had trouble hooking it but I tell you this, anyone not catching on a particular day using any of these products and canning them after that is missing a large trick. I am not involved with Marukyun in any way. They asked me to write a piece for their brochure and I did, without receiving or being offered a brass farthing, only some bait to test and fish with so I could write about it accurately. I am not on their pro-team, they do not pay me and have never paid me so I’m not saying all this because I get ANY sort of gain out of it at all.

My greatest wish is to get more people fishing and then catching more fish. I honestly find it VERY hard to believe that someone has caught on every other bait in the box and NOT on JPz because I have had EXACTLY the opposite reaction almost every time I’ve used them and the ones I have are old samples that have been tested for temperature effects – frozen and heated – a year old. I’ve never kept a ‘good’ jar as people watching have been astonished at the fish I’ve been catching and I’ve given them away. That’s not to say everyone has caught on them because they haven’t, mostly because they try NOT to catch on them. One bloke last week said he caught well on method on ordinary pellets, well on paste down the edge but nothing on JPz at 7m. I queried it and it then came about that he couldn’t catch on corn, meat or anything else there and never can in summer.

I blanked over one of the groundbaits at Gold Valley last year when there had been some super silver fish weights the week before and thought it must not work there. Then Will Raison told me why I’d failed to catch and that he’d had exactly the same when every peg was in – which it was on the day I was there. I used it there two weeks ago and won Middle lake with a 30% margin! 60lb, 44lb second!

[TF_tony beresford]

@Mino wrote:

Marukyu are more than welcome to have my two jars of JPzs back.

Last week i was catching a skimmer or small carp a chuck until i put a JPz on. I didn’t even get an indication. Put on a worm/maggot/expander/banded hard pellet and it was a bite a chuck again.

Yesterday whenever it tried to hair rig a JPz onto a band it split into two. I gave up after a dozen or so pellets.

Waste of money…………just my opinion of course.

Ewan

SORRY MATE BUTI HAVE TO QUESTION HOW YOU ARE USING THEM I HAVE FOUND THEM BRILLIANT ON COMMERCIALS AND WILD BREAM WATERS ASK HOLLWELL HE WILL PUT YOU RIGHT

[TF_karp_katcher]

corn….36p tesco`s…..16 tins of corn or 1 jar jpz…no contest!

[TF_tony beresford]

@karp_katcher wrote:

corn….36p tesco`s…..16 tins of corn or 1 jar jpz…no contest!

and at a guess you catch karp and not carp

[TF_karp_katcher]

i catch carp you talk crap!…..lol.

[Anonymous]

and whats wrong with ordinary expander pellet ??…caught more on that then any other pellet.. :rolleyes:

[TF_Gavin]

Keith, as it happens I have tried some of the groundbaits! Yes, they do mix very well, in fact perfectly every time. Did they catch me any more fish? I’m unconvinced they did! I’m not saying they don’t work, they must as people seem to catch over them, but are they better? In my opinion….. Well, I don’t think they are worth paying twice the price of a mix that the only fault I’ve ever found with it is that it needs pushing through a riddle, a process that takes a whole minute.

I think the only one missing a trick is you, I’ve never canned the brand, merely offered MY opinion on the products from MY experience. I’ve never said they don’t catch fish, I just pointed out that anglers caught fish BEFORE they were available, and will continue to do so without them.

[TF_FBlues]

They’re not all twice the price though Gavin, a common misconception. The thing is, as I wrote earlier, they WILL catch a lot more fish for a lot of anglers who currently waste their money on groundbait they can’t mix properly. I’ve yet to see a pleasure angler with a riddle on the bank, or a DeWalt come to that, in nearly 60 years of angling. I’ve seen plenty with groundbait that is as good as useless though, because they can’t mix it. Obviously experts may not consider them a benefit but I’d disagree with that on the evidence of my own catches. They are not ideal for bloodworm fishing or balling it on rivers; those mixes are more designed to carry loose feed and form a base than actually attract fish on their own merits. But as far as anything that has fishmeal goes, I think, honestly and without any kind of commercial incentive, that the groundbaits are far, far superior to anything I have ever used, both on ease of use, and encouragement of fish to feed. That’s my opinion based on using the baits for some time on a variety of fisheries, both commercial and ‘natural’ (estate lakes, old abbey stew ponds, reservoirs and gravel pits).

[TF_Cutnut]

Just the mention of Marukyu seems to increase bites 😀

[TF_rayroy]

I have obtained some SFA430 liquid and SFA441 additive BUT can not find a stockist for the groundbaits and pellets???

I got the above from P&T Bait & Tackle Billericay.

I went to Pete’s Tackle Rochford and was told they had some Marukyu products and have sold out BUT will not be getting any more in stock!!! – why i dont know ???

Any more shops that i could try???

rayroy
confused from canvey :confused:

[TF_FBlues]

That’s why tackle shops repeatedly go skint: “Sold out mate, won’t be getting any more.” I wonder how many items they have in that shop over 5 years old – check out the size 4 and 2 hooks, and 22 and 20 eyed hooks for a start, then go to some of the rubbish floats, crap feeders (“We bought them cos they were cheap” etc etc.)

[TF_proper tidal boy]

dianna ross here” still waiting ” maybe we could put them to the test at barnes and mortlake newly aquaited fishery at the end of your road f/ blues yes THE MARINERS BASIN ????? 😀 😀 😀

[TF_Chris VandervleitParticipant]

@rayroy wrote:

I have obtained some SFA430 liquid and SFA441 additive BUT can not find a stockist for the groundbaits and pellets???

I got the above from P&T Bait & Tackle Billericay.

I went to Pete’s Tackle Rochford and was told they had some Marukyu products and have sold out BUT will not be getting any more in stock!!! – why i dont know ???

Any more shops that i could try???

rayroy
confused from canvey :confused:

Give Bowlers in Dagenham a go they seem to have a good stock…Not sure about the pellets though. http://www.bowlersangling.co.uk

[TF_Pikey]

Rayroy – I think you will struggle to find any JPz’s at the moment as the whole country seems to be short of them (I managed to get the last two jars from BuryHill fishery last week) 😀 There is loads of GB to be had from on line shops, just search for Marukyu.

If anyone thinks the pelletts are rubbish and doesn’t want them then I will happilly take them off your hands !

[TF_FBlues]

There are containers on the way that land maybe today I think. There are enough to fulfil orders I have been told.

[TF_Lee]

I quite simply have won my last two matchs using Marukyu baits products.
The Nori feed pellets at £3.99 seem to work an absolute treat.
The JPz have been my first choice hook bait for the last two matchs as i say fished over the Nori pellets….cant fault the pellets the company or any of there products in any way.
Two winning brown enevlopes have more than paid for the outlay.

Tight lines

[TF_rayroy]

I went to Churchgates Lake shop (the old Wickford Angling) today and got some more SFA430 liquid, and they are getting a delivery next week – hopefully !!!

Keith – you are right about the stock level in Pete’s Rochford, a lot of old dusty items line the shelves, they need a good sort-out and reorganisation.

Thanks for all of the replies.
ray
from sunny canvey island – well today it was 😎

PS – any of you that remember my back problems, i had my disc opp back in may, but 2 weeks ago had a relapse and today had an epidural injection, but i have been back fishing, but only do short sessions.

[TF_FBlues]

Hope the back gets sorted mucker.

[TF_respect]

Ted Carters have a large selection of Marukyu pellets/Groundbait/additives,they have the full range,i would ring for upto date stocks though! ask for Phil 🙂

[TF_DAT]

Good luck RayRoy 5 days into a facet joint injection myself and feel pretty good.Missed most of August when my back went out but trying to get back active by walking daft dog again and hope to start fishing again soon.Sat watching my 2 lads over last couple of weeks and jpz are working for them fished over 151.Not clever enough to understand all the science of marukyu but it seems to work for my two lads(13 and 14)

[TF_rayroy]

Just found some JPz on e bay for £5.99 + p&p £2.20 = £8.19

So placed an order !!! 🙂

[TF_Doddy]

Managed to get last jar from local shop last Saturday, they were keeping them behind counter and limiting the number you could buy due to them appearing on ebay at silly prices.

Tried them for first time at The Glebe on Sunday morning probably didn’t persevere long enough only had a couple of Bream on them before switching back to corn.

On another note fished the Wye on Thursday and after a biteless couple of hours added some 131 to my groundbait mix and me and my lad finished with 11 Barbel hooked between us not all landed I might add. This may have just been a coincidence but sure we all know how big a part confidence in what you are using is on how we fish 🙂

[DrynetParticipant]

Got 2 jars from foster’s Roy and the Marukyu team was there today.

[TF_Fishingbaits]

Just picked up on this forum. I have got carried away with the Marukyu baits this season. I have caught more than ever before in my life. This has been mainly due to the fact I have been fascinated with the Science that goes into their design and manufacture.

This has helped with me understand what to use, how to use it and when.

This has led me to build a web site where I will be selling the Marukyu range on line, giving an overview of what, how and when to use it. There is even bait wizard where you input your conditions and the wizard will build you a perfect bait package for your day. The bait wizard has been designed by members of the Marukyu Pro team.

Finally the site will give you next day delivery.

I am 2 weeks away from launching, so will. Give you the URL / link when it live if anyone is interested.

[TF_lump]

@Fishingbaits wrote:

Just picked up on this forum. I have got carried away with the Marukyu baits this season. I have caught more than ever before in my life. This has been mainly due to the fact I have been fascinated with the Science that goes into their design and manufacture.

This has helped with me understand what to use, how to use it and when.

This has led me to build a web site where I will be selling the Marukyu range on line, giving an overview of what, how and when to use it. There is even bait wizard where you input your conditions and the wizard will build you a perfect bait package for your day. The bait wizard has been designed by members of the Marukyu Pro team.

Finally the site will give you next day delivery.

I am 2 weeks away from launching, so will. Give you the URL / link when it live if anyone is interested.

hello Roy? is that you? 😀

[TF_AdzTParticipant]

Brought my jar today. Off to fish my local club water which is pretty hard, so I will give them a go on pole and feeder and see what happens. If I don’t try I will never know! Will post my opinions a later tomorrow.

[TF_Fishingbaits]

Ha ha, no it isn’t Mr Marlow 🙂

In fact I do not work for Marukyu. I have however spent this Spring and summer testing, researching and understanding their baits.

If you are using the JPz’s, I can recommend the Marukyu Groundbaits EFG130 or EFG131 to go with them.

[TF_baitchefParticipant]

you are all mad!!

[TF_Johnny Mac]

They catch loads….of anglers 😉

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

i got a jar off roy on a recent marukyu day at glebe, they where awsome down there but i suppose the fish are use to em at glebe !!!
got another jar !!!!

lets start the bidding at £10 ? :p 😀

[Anonymous]

Are they as good as Ultrabite?

[TF_AdzTParticipant]

used them today, i thought they would be alot tougher than they actually are. The bait band did split the pellet, but i think this was because i was using too bigger band, so will try them with a micro band.

My club water has lots of small fish, when i used the JPz i didnt get bitted out like i did with a 4mm expander on, and got through to the small carp, skimmers, and crucians. the real test will be when i’m really struggling and i slip one on and see what happens!!

[TF_Fishingbaits]

http://fishingbaits.biz has been launched.

It is packed with information on the Marukyu range, Roy’s videos are on it along with a load of other written articles.

There’s a bait wizard where you can input your conditions season, target species, depth etc and it will work out a potent bait package.

Te first news article is a decent read for those who are untrusting of their scientific development techniques.

The best bit is Krilled maggots ready made, saving the hassle of making them. They’ve also got ready made hemp, corn as well as the Marukyu Boilies, Pellets, JPz, Pastes.

It next day delivery, all for £2.50

Anyway it gives more than the average online outlet as it’s worth a read for information.

http://fishingbaits.biz

What do you think?

[Anonymous]

funny time to launch a bait website when bait sales are going to plummet as winter approaches. still send me a half pint of squatt, a half of pinkies and 3 lobworms. cheque ok?
oh and if you take stuff back i have a jar of jpz pellets for return with 3 missing.

[TF_Smed]

wow i wanted to go float fishing for all species of fish next week and my reccomended bait bill was 35 quid!

[TF_blissParticipant]

Green Nori JPZ’s coming soon…

[TF_holwell53]

coming in April.
as are 10mm sizes

[TF_scottyp]

Does the bait site tell you the winning lottery numbers to???
For a float/leger session – £40.19!!! Great site and a brillaint idea with the wizard, but the resulting bill made my finger hit the close button straight away.

[TF_Tim_D]

Same old story, bait catches more anglers than fish! I’d rather spend more time and money getting the right tackle and presenting it right.

[TF_geepsterParticipant]

Nice video here of Roy Marlow and John Hall talking about how to get the best from JPZs….

https://www.total-fishing.com/videos/coarse-and-match-fishing-monthly

[TF_Smed]

geepster i know they are a sponser of the site but even you have to agree the prices are Ridiculous, and are clearly taking us anglers for a ride! i mean 30 odd quid for a winter session just on bait! i challenge anybody to pay that and sit next to an angler of the same ability and catch more than him whilst he uses a simple loaf of bread! obviously to make it fair it would have to be done over a sample of a few sessions! if it clearly outfishes a simple bread approach then ill buy it! anyone up for the challenge?

[TF_Smed]

@Tim_D wrote:

Same old story, bait catches more anglers than fish! I’d rather spend more time and money getting the right tackle and presenting it right.

couldnt have put it better myself!

[TF_rookery54]

I’ve used them twice now and never had a bite on them 😮

Last week i was getting a bite a chuck at Monks put one on the hook and then didn’t get a touch

i weighed in 79lb 4oz all caught on soft pellet!!!!!!!!!

i reserve judgement and will still keeping trying them to see if they work

[TF_proper tidal boy]

well after our little knock up weds ive changed my view as ive now caught on two ocassions admittely not over 131 g/b but hemp and corn having tried fishmeal and pellets to no avail the fizz between g/b against hemp corn was notably more towards h/c why do you think that was also the jpzs were brilliant hook hold two jps on a p24 in a 16 ws the best bite ratio against single ??? now if it was freezing cold might be a prob hooking as they are so slippery any tips out there??

[TF_JohnH]

Finally caught on them Saturday at the Glebe (Prettys). I had caught long on bits of paste and corn and had just come onto my short line which I had fed for 4 hours on hemp and corn. It was slow as Saturday was cold, water temp was only 8 degrees. The man himself appeared behind me and encouraged me to try them. After about 20 minutes just dripping a bit of hemp over I started to catch on the JPz, and the bigger fish too.
Roy was telling me that bigger sizes will be out in spring and other colours too.
I think that like most things angling there are no magic baits, only good baits, good presentation and getting feeding right on the day, no two days seem to be the same especially when its cold.

[TF_Gavin]

I just started to watch the short video on the JPZ on the Coarse and Match Channel on here, and pretty much the first thing said by Roy was “I guarantee that each one of these baits will get you a bite or a fish”!

I turned it off after that, my god they may be good but to claim that is bloody outrageous 😮

[TF_JohnH]

I think Roy meant on that lake where he filmed at the Glebe Gavin.
PTB to get the hook in them I just place the pellet onto my trouser thigh and hook it there. I use B911 size 16.
To hair rig them you need a fine band, the 3.2 gardner ones are too thick.

[TF_duanepipe]

tomato flaverd gelatine pellets in a cockle jar. have a taste see what you think? the kids love em! 😉

[TF_macky1]

Ya can catch fish on a bare hook at the glebe cant ya?

[TF_proper tidal boy]

Cheers john h i tried the hook you was recommending and found it too heavy, very iffy bites changed to pr 24 in 16 and didnt look back when fishing with f blues last week, Used em sun at willy couldnt get a bite, but caught on a 11mm gv pellet funny old game fishing

[TF_JohnH]

Been giving this some thought and concluded I failed to catch on them when I tried them over a pellet line. I think you need to treat JPz as an alternative when pellet is not working but not obviously over anything fishmeal.
How many times when pellet is not working do you catch on meat for example?
I think JPz is the same and needs to be fished over hemp, maggot etc not pellet or fishmeal based groundbait..

[TF_billy the squidParticipant]

Dont the chinese make enough money! plz dont rob us fishermen!

[Anonymous]

Big clue in what your saying JohnH. When the fish have a choice between fishmeal pellets or something different in pellet form. The something different is ignored. Big bread punch gets ignored as an example. Put a slice of bread in wetted down pellets for a few hours. Then, you can catch on big bread punch over fishmeal pellets. Interesting thing is with most baits. If you fed nothing. You will catch a few. As with JPz pellets, bread punch and the likes of plastic corn. Would love to know what would happen if someone fed ony JPz pellets on a typical commerecial venue. 3 pints would be enough. Would you empty the venue, struggle or catch a similar number of fish as if you had used fishmeal pellets as we normally do? Would cost a fortune but wuld give the answer to how good these pellets really are.

[TF_Slider]

@JohnH wrote:

Been giving this some thought and concluded I failed to catch on them when I tried them over a pellet line. I think you need to treat JPz as an alternative when pellet is not working but not obviously over anything fishmeal.
How many times when pellet is not working do you catch on meat for example?
I think JPz is the same and needs to be fished over hemp, maggot etc not pellet or fishmeal based groundbait..

Simply not the case John.

I have been catching LOTS of fish by fishing JPZ over 4mm hard skrettings and indeed over fishmeal groundbaits. I have also caught over corn, caster and dead maggot.

JPz is a fishing bait, it doesnt matter what you feed, if there are fish there they will eat it, the main difference is that you are not feeding them so they stand out a little better than a grain of corn over a pot of corn. Try a double JPz on a size 18 silverfish pellet hook, thats whats workinjg for me right now.

[TF_proper tidal boy]

fishing sunday lake withs loads of skimmers/ as im typing loads of cold rainwater going in so might get a answer how they fish in the cold ??? 😀 😀

[TF_lump]

@proper tidal boy wrote:

fishing sunday lake withs loads of skimmers/ as im typing loads of cold rainwater going in so might get a answer how they fish in the cold ??? 😀 😀

cold, wonder if they go hard? (nips off to pop a few in freezer)

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