poppies on footie shirts o/t

[TF_stevied]

Home International countries want to display poppies on their shirts for the friendlies coming up, but FIFA will not allow it as national shirts are not to display political emblems.

Are poppies a political emblem or a mark of respect for our forefathers.
Should our international footballers wear poppies on their shirts?

I think that it is only right and proper that they do, but what are you views…..

[TF_piperpilot]

Now Now we don’t want to go upsetting the jack booted Krauts and their spawn in the fourth Reich(EU Land),

[TF_Waveney One]

Although it is the British Legion that organise the Poppy Day appeal I have concern not only for British dead but for the millions of Russians, French, Common-wealth Forces and yes, the Germans. Strangely enough there were plenty of those who were against the pointless war as well.

Who knows what their own feelings and allegiances would lay if not for an accident of birth and they had not been born British? Having read a lot of Irish history (propaganda?) I know where my feelings might well have rested if I had been born a Catholic and brought up in the Belfast slums.

In answer to the question, YES, lest we forget.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

British Legion dont just do it in memory of our forefathers, they help families of soldiers killed in recent battle too afgan etc they send out christmas boxes where allowed to serving soldiers abroad I think we should be proud to bung a poppy on a footie shirt.

[TF_bremesParticipant]

I think we should wear the poppy on our shirts no matter what FIFA says,if Sepp Bloater doesnt like it we should tell him to shove his rules where the sun dont shine 😡

[TF_Paddy]

Agreed – I think that if the individual players wanted to wear them, then they should be able to. To have them on the training kit before and after the match, but not to be able to wear them on the match kit for 90 mins is, well pathetic in my opinion – but there again, these rules are being made by the most pathetic organisation on this planet at the moment.

[TF_proper tidal boy]

@bremes wrote:

I think we should wear the poppy on our shirts no matter what FIFA says,if Sepp Bloater doesnt like it we should tell him to shove his rules where the sun dont shine 😡

well put jeff, bit of a quandry for my team as we have a german manager perhaps ille give him one aswell 😀

[TF_feeder]

we should do what we want to do and stuff the rest.some pr##k tells us we cant do this cant do that.we should wear the poppy with pride and stuff the rest who say we cant.imo

[TF_Perchie]

On the one hand it is wholly reasonable and appropriate to commemorate those including our forefathers that have lost their lives in armed conflict. However we should not lose sight that some of these armed conflicts are questionable too many from a “was it right” perspective e.g. Palestine in the late 40s, Kenya, Malay, Cyprus, N Ireland, Falkalands, Iraq, Afghanistan, Suez etc.

Unfortunately for me remembrance for the fallen in all conflicts has at times been hijacked by both the “little englander” and their equals on the other political spectrum.

It is a personal moment and whether we have poppies on football shirts is to me not really a big issue either way.

[TF_dingdong]

I WOULD TELL THEM TO STICK THERE FRIENDLY UP THERE ARSE
ALSO I WOULD TELL SEPPTIC BLATTER TO SHOVE HIS OWN HEAD UP HIS OWN ARSE 😮 😀

“WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE”

[TF_Gavin]

Quite simple really – if anyone is offended by the poppy don’t come to England near this time! It’s in our country, in a non-tournament game! Sod ’em I say and do it.

Best take all all them pointless anti-racist badges of the shirts as FIFA/UEFA do bugger all to combat that do they?

[TF_stevied]

@Anthonywaters wrote:

British Legion dont just do it in memory of our forefathers, they help families of soldiers killed in recent battle too afgan etc they send out christmas boxes where allowed to serving soldiers abroad I think we should be proud to bung a poppy on a footie shirt.

Thank you,

possibly the most important part. The older i get the more my memory fails, if that is possible. lol.

latest on the news, poppies will be on the pre-match track suits for the National Anthem,
Also one will be on the pitch.

[TF_scarf]

I’ll always buy and wear a poppy. In fact I usually buy at least a couple but I’ve never got round to wearing one on my fishing gear. Whether or not the England team wear one on their playing shirts doesn’t bother me too much. It should be a personal thing.
My dad and grandad fought in the two world wars and I’m very proud of them but now, for me, the poppy isn’t only about national pride but more about remembering the fallen on all sides and reminding subsequent generations of the consequences of extreme nationalism.
The FIFA decision is typically stupid and inflammatory. Hopefully though it will prompt more of us to buy our own poppies.
I’d be interested to know the size of the donation to the British Legion Poppy Appeal by the England players.

[TF_Paddy]

David Cameron is a weakling – just listened to Radio 5Live news and they had his commons speach about the refusal of FIFA to let England wear the Poppy on there shirts.
He (Cameron) said it was absurd that FIFA would not allow this, and that it was not a politically motivated emblem – of which i agree with.
BUT, as the head of state in parliment, he should put his knackers on the block and write to FIFA and ask them to retract, or reconsider there stance, rather than just puffing his chest out and airing his view. His opinion in writing could not be ignored.
I cannot see it? how is the poppy a politically motivated symbol?

[TF_bremesParticipant]

In no way could you call me a fan of Cameron,but he sort of has a point,he did say or strongly hinted that he wanted the FA to stand upto FIFA,this is what we should do,if they chuck us out…so what.It is about time a breakaway group was formed in the short run it will be hard times but world football will gain in the long run.

[TF_Paddy]

Yeh…. There’s a few points i can take from that Bremes….
I think that if he (Cameron) is so strongly against that decision by FIFA, he could ask them to reconsider and why should’nt he? I know the FA are the lords and masters of Enlglish football, but they have asked for a reconsideration and it has been knocked back, so grow some Cameron, write a letter as head of government.
As for being removed from FIFA, I personally think we should walk from FIFA, before being removed. I really do think that if just 1 really big European name was to leave and consider an alternative, it would be like pushing the dominoes over and lots would follow. The Germans, Italians and the Spanish individually and collectively do not like FIFA as recent FIFA voting has shown.

[TF_Bear361Participant]

To me poppies are worn to remember the fallen. Not a political statement. So whether you agree or not with why and where they have fallen, if Soap Bleeter gets his way, his message is saying he doesn`t give a munkeys about soldiers going to war to stop people like Hitler and more recent times obviously, so all of you who have friends or family who have died for their country, to FIFA and SP they don`t recognise any of their efforts for peace. I know what I wished Scotland, Wales and England would do on Saturday, but I also know they wouldn`t do it. 😡

[TF_piperpilot]

Common decency prevails at last, Well done,

[TF_Paddy]

Yep, it has Ron. I was having a pop earlier at Cameron, but it appears he got pen and paper together and a compromise has been struck, so well done to him for taking the issue to FIFA.
Blatter’s cronies have still left themselves with wriggle room, in so much as having the poppies on the black arm bands, but there on the pitch for those respectful 90 mins.

[TF_herbie]

@Perchie wrote:

On the one hand it is wholly reasonable and appropriate to commemorate those including our forefathers that have lost their lives in armed conflict. However we should not lose sight that some of these armed conflicts are questionable too many from a “was it right” perspective e.g. Palestine in the late 40s, Kenya, Malay, Cyprus, N Ireland, Falkalands, Iraq, Afghanistan, Suez etc.

Unfortunately for me remembrance for the fallen in all conflicts has at times been hijacked by both the “little englander” and their equals on the other political spectrum.

It is a personal moment and whether we have poppies on football shirts is to me not really a big issue either way.

questionable???? in what way was the Falklands and northern island questionable???. the first was an invasion by a foreign power and the second was a police act to protect the Catholics from there naughty neighbours . i was there and i am certain i wasn’t at war.
you must remember that not one politician was killed during any of these conflicts, also not a single serviceman or civilian come to that sent us into these conflicts. we remember the fallen by wearing a poppy . we don’t question why they fell or whether it was a just cause we just remember they fell on our behalf. you owe them at least that so shut up.

[TF_Waveney One]

I remember being in Sydney, Australia 11/11/01 and the Armistice was much better respected over there than it is here. I was driving through the City and the whole thing came to a standstill for a few minutes. Police stepped out and brought the traffic to a halt and every pedestrian stopped and bowed their head. It is a time to remember the fallen and the injured of all nationalities in all conflicts, friend and foe.

I have a framed photograph taken from the high up on the top of a building facing the war memorial outside the Royal Exchange at Bank in the City of London. (I worked in the building for over 20 years, that is why I have the photo and some old prints of the building over the years). It was taken sometime in the 1920’s and covers the area from the Bank of England to the Mansion House including up Threadneedle Street, Cornhill and King William Street and there is not a square inch of standing area where someone isn’t standing with their hat off and their head bowed.

[TF_herbie]

trouble blatters a swiss and they don’t have any dead to remember just bank accounts full of the Jews money.plus vaults full of stolen artefacts from places like Warsaw. bunch of arseholes to a man. well done both arry,s . our prince from stepping in when our gutless euro prime minister didn’t have the balls to.
were i prime minister (god forbid) i would have stopped the game till the wankers at THE CROOKED F.I.F.A. backed off and apologised.
the other arry who is in line to take over from our tosser of a manager,has got off his sick bed to slate the powers that be including our own bunch of old farts aka the F/A. every word he has written made me proud to be called English , and there,s not many times ive said that in the last 20 years.

what all the apologists and downright cowards fail to understand is when i stand for 2 minutes wearing my poppy i stand for ALL THE FALLEN.

[TF_feeder]

totally agree ian spot on mate. 😉 😉

[TF_Bear361Participant]

@herbie wrote:

@Perchie wrote:

On the one hand it is wholly reasonable and appropriate to commemorate those including our forefathers that have lost their lives in armed conflict. However we should not lose sight that some of these armed conflicts are questionable too many from a “was it right” perspective e.g. Palestine in the late 40s, Kenya, Malay, Cyprus, N Ireland, Falkalands, Iraq, Afghanistan, Suez etc.

Unfortunately for me remembrance for the fallen in all conflicts has at times been hijacked by both the “little englander” and their equals on the other political spectrum.

It is a personal moment and whether we have poppies on football shirts is to me not really a big issue either way.

questionable???? in what way was the Falklands and northern island questionable???. the first was an invasion by a foreign power and the second was a police act to protect the Catholics from there naughty neighbours . i was there and i am certain i wasn’t at war.
you must remember that not one politician was killed during any of these conflicts, also not a single serviceman or civilian come to that sent us into these conflicts. we remember the fallen by wearing a poppy . we don’t question why they fell or whether it was a just cause we just remember they fell on our behalf. you owe them at least that so shut up.

Well said Herbie

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