sinking or floating braid ? nanofil?

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Whats the best braid for long range feeder fishing sinking or floating and does it change when fishing very shallow pegs or very deep pegs ?
Reason i ask is i have gotsome of the new nanofil line 12lb bs, its about 0.20mm diameter used it today on a shallow lake 3 to 4 ft , very windy day casts ok used a flourocarbon shockleader {sinks well} .
The nanofil casts great but its not the be all and end all as its a devil to sink, just wondering if this would be seen as an advantage in the shallow swim,and would it be an advantage to float in the upper layers on a very deep lake type swim.

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I fish ‘long’ range for Bream alot. Because of this my feeders are pretty heavy 40g plus. Braid behaves better the more you use it. Does any braid sink well, I don’t know. What it does though is cast well and puts you in direct contact which helps with bites and feel. I tried 0.14 mono with a shockleader recently and the difference was massive ie striking and how much I had moved the rod before feeling the fish.

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Personally I think a sinking braid is the worst thing you can use when fishing long, you want a braid that ‘hangs’ in the water column. Something like berkley fireline does just this. Trouble with sinking braids is that once it’s on the bottom you negate the effect of the braid as you no longer have a direct connection between terminal tackle and tip, Imagine fishing 70yds long and having say 20yds on the deck lying across stones, debri, etc – bite indication would be pants!

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Mike at 70m would you have 20m on the bottom – not sure! Not the way I fish anyway ie heavy feeders up to 40-80g, quite a bend in the tip after sorting out the bow from wind/tow and I generally hair rig at range. By the way what is nanofil?

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20 was just a figure I came up with lol. Was just trying to make the point that a sinking braid once on the deck would offer much more resistance than one sat midwater? I may well be talking rubbish but I know when I tried titanic years ago the bites were truly awful and when you reeled in you had to pull the braid out of the lakebed. Id like to hear other people thoughts though as I’m no expert that’s for sure.

good question, what on earth is nanofil?????

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20 was just a figure I came up with lol. Was just trying to make the point that a sinking braid once on the deck would offer much more resistance than one sat midwater? I may well be talking rubbish but I know when I tried titanic years ago the bites were truly awful and when you reeled in you had to pull the braid out of the lakebed. Id like to hear other people thoughts though as I’m no expert that’s for sure.

good question, what on earth is nanofil?????

Nanofil is the new hi tec monofilament from berkley its braid Jim but not as we know it its somehow dyneema braid fused by some secret method into a mono.
Bekley claim alsorts of wonderfull properties for it ie no stretch, no memory super thin and strong etc basicaly all the benefits of braid but mono filament technology.
But there are drawbacks inevatably it does not knot well for a start it is stiff and wirey, knoting can damage it fairly easily ie using the wrong knot.
The one i am trying is the 12lb test that is surposed to be 0.20mm dia it looks a bit over that to be truthfull but i havent miked it up to check.
Okay it floats just as a floating braid would, casts pretty well is surposed to be resistant to wind knots.
Some guy from shakespear superteam was using it in a magazine article they said it was amazingly thin 0.10 inches that equates to 0.20 mm so it aint as thin as you might think.
It goes down to 1lb test and up to 12lb test , before you get all excited i dont think it would be any use as a hooklenght material to stiff and wiry and its not clear its opaque, the 3lb test is 0.007mm.
Just google nanofil from berkley and you will find plenty of info.

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@rocketFeeder wrote:

20 was just a figure I came up with lol. Was just trying to make the point that a sinking braid once on the deck would offer much more resistance than one sat midwater? I may well be talking rubbish but I know when I tried titanic years ago the bites were truly awful and when you reeled in you had to pull the braid out of the lakebed. Id like to hear other people thoughts though as I’m no expert that’s for sure.

good question, what on earth is nanofil?????

Nanofil is the new hi tec monofilament from berkley its braid Jim but not as we know it its somehow dyneema braid fused by some secret method into a mono.
Bekley claim alsorts of wonderfull properties for it ie no stretch, no memory super thin and strong etc basicaly all the benefits of braid but mono filament technology.
But there are drawbacks inevatably it does not knot well for a start it is stiff and wirey, knoting can damage it fairly easily ie using the wrong knot.
The one i am trying is the 12lb test that is surposed to be 0.20mm dia it looks a bit over that to be truthfull but i havent miked it up to check.
Okay it floats just as a floating braid would, casts pretty well is surposed to be resistant to wind knots.
Some guy from shakespear superteam was using it in a magazine article they said it was amazingly thin 0.10 inches that equates to 0.20 mm so it aint as thin as you might think.
It goes down to 1lb test and up to 12lb test , before you get all excited i dont think it would be any use as a hooklenght material to stiff and wiry and its not clear its opaque, the 3lb test is 0.007mm.
Just google nanofil from berkley and you will find plenty of info.

thanks for the reply, will take a look. 😀

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This new stuff nanofil seems interesting. Has any one else used it? It seems ‘stiff’ not limp after watching the videos, does this cause any problems?

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This new stuff nanofil seems interesting. Has any one else used it? It seems ‘stiff’ not limp after watching the videos, does this cause any problems?

Yes it is interesting stuff although as with many new products you need to look beyond the hype or try them for yourself.
Berkley claim it has no memory but i got 150 meters and loaded half on too a shimano 4000 size reel and half on to a big spool compact baitrunner 5500 size, the line comes of the spool in coils relative to the spool size just like mono and it looks a bit odd if you fish a slackish line to the tip, if you tighten up quite hard it is obviously better.
I used a shockleader of flourocarbon mono bit of a heath robinson knot but no problems so far, figure of eight loop in nanofil and just half blood knottted the mono to it.
Not realy used braid much so going to spool up some 30lb berkley fire line that i have lying around to compare against the nanofil, the fire line is very thin very strong and also bouyant, obviously gonna use the same flourocarbon shockleader with it.
Not sure how the fireline will cast i am guessing not as well as the nanofil but we will see.

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