stiffest pole on the market today

[TF_vicci5]

whats the stiffest ,most well balanced pole available today – peoples thoughts please using a tricast trilogy at the minute and think its abit sloppy at its longer lengths…….?

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

still more than happy with my gis12, performs at all lengths, not just long !!!
a mates just got newest airity,, thats a nice bit of kit
and our kids got g-max1000,, stiffest of em all !!!! and suprisingly light and ballanced ! 😉

[TF_vicci5]

yes i fancy one of them g-max 1000 is there much diffrence between the 1000 and the 800(besides the price thinking about the new shimano aspire too anyone handled one of those….

[Anonymous]

Forget any topend shimano pole the spares are astronomical,if,you can get em.
Daiwa’s come undone when shipping in and out and end up going around the lake.
Mavers are shite at long lengths look like bananas (had a 77 elite once)
Prestons crack easily and end up with smashed sections and garbolino’s go spongy after a few uses.
So basically stick with a rod and line its the way forward!!!

[TF_Rhino]

I chose the Colmic x5000 – v stiff and slim and strong; good joints and slide finish. not the lightest but light enough.

Airity is a good all rounder; also like the aspire ultra though I dont like shimanos other offerings like the fireblood though plenty of good anglers choose them. Shimano now do generic spares which are more affordable

The preston gis 14 is very stiff but it felt spongy to me and has quite fat sections.

New Browing z12 getting rave advance reviews – not seen it personally.

Switching to any of the above will cost a lot over what u could sell the tricast for, epecially if you need any extra tops kits. You have a good pole – ask yourself if you can justify probably at least a grand …..

[TF_andynorth2003Participant]

GMAX 1000 is defo the stiffest most balanced pole out of all the top end models.
I’ve owned most and would swear by my old Airity before I got this one.
Superb with power lite kits and absolutely awesome with match lites.
A true 16m pole, which can be fished at 20m (I did it last weekend at Makins on a peg that most fish the tip)

[TF_redarmy]

the trilogy wont be as stiff as some of the ones you have mentioned but its stronger than all of them ive got the aristocrat and fish that at 17.5mt no problem and the trilogy is 100grm lighter and stiffer.plenty of top anglers are happy with the trilogy.

[TF_Natefx]

I’m Happy to fish my Z9 at 20m’s for a 6 hour match and the Z12 is even better.

Nathan
http://nate-fish4thought.blogspot.com

[TF_daveyboy]

Although,i only fish rivers/ canals, i have not found a pole better than the Colmic x5000, slim, light, stiff

[TF_Natefx]

@daveyboy wrote:

Although,i only fish rivers/ canals, i have not found a pole better than the Colmic x5000, slim, light, stiff

That is a pretty good buy Davey.

[TF_red_angler]

Got a shimano Fireblood, stiff, strong & responsive. shimano spares arent expensive anymore like they used to be.

[TF_Leaky Lloyd]

cant remember the name of it but the flagship frenzee pole is worth a look aswell,,
had a wiggle at fishomania this year,, well impressed with it,,,
most dissapointing had to be the shimano fireblood for me,,,not so sre its a bad pole,, but i was expecting more from it in that price bracket,,
if money was no object, i think id go for the new silver airity !!!

[TF_mart4666]

True the pole you have at the moment.isn’t as stiff as say gmax1000 But its a hell of a lot stronger and better balanced at longer lengths.it seems to me that you’ve already decided to change from the tricast . Perhaps you may think stiffness is the most important factor in a pole but it ain’t.reliability and confidence is more important and you get that with tricast along with good balance and a pole that WILL handle any carp.
Be warned lol.

[Anonymous]

I had a shimano aspire pro a few years ago…it was an utter bag o sh@t at long lengths and weighed a ton! the sections stuck together so when i had a fish on and tried unshipping it sounded like a trumpet being played as i sat there unscrewing it!!! My mate got a fire blood OMG what an even bigger bag o sh@t!!!!!i thought it was gonna be good being as scotthorne was using one …how wrong Shimano certainly DONT know how to make poles!!!!

[TF_GLEBE1]

Could somebody explain balance to me please,every time I see Trilogy written I see balance in the same sentence!

I had a go with a Trilogy after a match having fished all day at 16m with my Airity, the first thing i noticed was the amount of tip bounce when shipping out, it’s heavier and no where near as stiff or responsive so what is balance and where does it come onto play???

Yes it’s probably the strongest pole out there but for general carping does it really need to be that much stronger than the others?? Used correctly most poles will land anything.

[Anonymous]

I think that some pole anglers live on a different planet when it comes to judging what performance a pole gives…yes the majority of flagship poles are really good and so they should be for what us MUGS pay for them! (theres only a handful of pole manufacturers out there anyway the companies use them and stick there names on em i.e reglass )So what you read about a pole from one bloke dont make it awesome they gotta say its good cos theyve bought one but when they sell it on the truth comes out from them!
Ive got a garbolino and mostly always have cos it suits my heavyhandedness and allows me to throw it about i just think that certain poles are for certain people and when you are happy with a type of pole stick with em cos other poles maybe good in someone elses hands but lousy in yours…also i aint a sheep and have to buy an airity or an apple i-phone or bang and olufsun tele
to look good…

[TF_vicci5]

i think i would like to have look at the colmic x5000 a couple of people have mentioned as most of my fishing is done on canals recently (got sick of the carp puddles) and i don’t have very big hands so being slim i reckon it would be easier to handle- anyone know who stocks em and what the cost is / package is like???

[TF_Pedro]

@punchmeat wrote:

I think that some pole anglers live on a different planet when it comes to judging what performance a pole gives…yes the majority of flagship poles are really good and so they should be for what us MUGS pay for them! (theres only a handful of pole manufacturers out there anyway the companies use them and stick there names on em i.e reglass )So what you read about a pole from one bloke dont make it awesome they gotta say its good cos theyve bought one but when they sell it on the truth comes out from them!
Ive got a garbolino and mostly always have cos it suits my heavyhandedness and allows me to throw it about i just think that certain poles are for certain people and when you are happy with a type of pole stick with em cos other poles maybe good in someone elses hands but lousy in yours…also i aint a sheep and have to buy an airity or an apple i-phone or bang and olufsun tele
to look good…

Well said mr punch.
personally im a maver man n touch wood ….theyve served me well.

[TF_duanepipe]

have a look at what good none sponserd or sponserd anglers who dont use there sponsers poles use mate. in my area and on a resent trip to whiteacres i would say a daiwa tournament whether it would be a pro pro x or airity were used more than 70% of the time. there also hold there secondhand value more than any other make of pole. if you ever come round to selling it.

[TF_red_angler]

Punchmeat, i dont understand your comment that the fireblood is a bag of sh*t, iv had mine 18months & it is an awesome pole.
Do you really think Allan Scothorne would use a bag of sh*t pole?

[TF_daveyboy]

@vicci5 wrote:

i think i would like to have look at the colmic x5000 a couple of people have mentioned as most of my fishing is done on canals recently (got sick of the carp puddles) and i don’t have very big hands so being slim i reckon it would be easier to handle- anyone know who stocks em and what the cost is / package is like???

Vicci5, you have a pm

[Anonymous]

Oh come on the word awesome and shimano just dont go together!!!
Awesome is daiwa tournament airity, preston the one, garbolino gmax 1000 or even fox envoy elite (ive had all 4 of these in my time and cant say a bad word about any of them apart from the number 5 section on the garbo).
But i still say shimano have yet to get up to the level that these poles are at…A flagship shimano pole just doesnt quite make the grade in my opinion im afraid and a shimano pole that isnt a flagship like the fireblood is merely a run of the mill i wouldnt want to pay more than £800 for one as theres a dozen poles in the £800 catogory that are equal to the fireblood! 😮

[TF_Rhino]

Vicci – not sure where u r based but Subfish in Derbyshire got one of mine for me (other was 2nd hand). Leigh Bait and Tackle and Ted Carters also do Colmic in the North; Davies angling for one in London Area. I cant recommend the pole highly enough and I’m a fussy so and so! Had mine 12 months now and no intention of changing.

Re Fireblood – seems to be a marmite pole, eithed loved or disliked. I had a waggle with one in bobco and have to say I didnt like it – the Aspire Pro however felt excellent and would be up there with my colmic (iths expensive though). You need to have a go with every contender yourself before investing so much money….

Good luck to all in your search for pole nirvana!

[TF_kid_a]

You have to take into account you are not comparing like with like. The GMAX 1000 is a genuine 16m long pole, the Daiwa Airity is no where near 16m….

[TF_tractorboy]

I used the new Airity on Sunday for the first time and have to say it was a dream to use. Super stiff, and just glided through my hands.

It also looked 16m to me when I fished it long for skimmers, although I don’t think the skimmers were that bothered if it was a few inches short. 🙂

[TF_kid_a]

The Airity is at least 1m shorter than the GMAX1000, so when comparing how stiff a pole is or how well balanced you would get a truer judgement comparing the GMAX at 14.5 against the Airity at its supposed 16m length….

[TF_craigo]

had my 5 year old gis9 up against an Airity a couple of weeks ago at 14.5 and 16m.

We swapped alternate top 4’s over as they fit each pole (very little in the top kits to be honest) and with 4 of us comparing each pole – none of us could tell a difference in rigidity – if anything the gis9 felt lighter and was also longer by about 10inches.

theres very little in top end poles and has been for few years – until a new material comes up, technology with poles is about at its limit IMO

[TF_drawbag1967]

My Maver 371 after I’ve given it a good rub down with three sachet’s of Viagra Jelly, stays stiff even after the whistle has blown.

[TF_andynorth2003Participant]

Makes me laugh how people compare GMAX1000 to an Airity and say the Garbo is heavier.

Well it is bound to be, its about a metre longer??!!

[TF_billy the squidParticipant]

I think it’s down to the fishing ur doing, some people are happy with any pole because they dont do much shallow or long feature work and dont fish more than 10m hardly ever!, i still use a garb g10, take some beating.

[TF_carpmagicParticipant]

My airity with the number 1 in was 16.01 when i bought it. With the number one removed and the dolly butt in which i like anyway its virtually bang on 16m and ideal for venues such as whiteacres where you need a perfect 16m to be within the rules.
As for the thread, i have seen some really stiff 16m poles over the years, most of which felt great in a show room and then were a real handful on the bank in a cross wind. before i joined Daiwa i had a choice of poles and tried most manufacturers models before eventually buying an airity. The reason being i felt it suited me and the way i fish, ive had it 5 months now and i havent been disappointed in anyway.

[TF_casper n r judParticipant]

The silver airity dosent have to be the longest,stiffest ,strongest or the lightest pole on the market,its just quality,dosent matter how many times sponsored Anglers try to say that French,German,or Italian poles are best,they will never have that made in uk,which counts for everything in my book

[TF_tractorboy]

The gmax 1000 pole is longer because it comes longer.
It comes supplied at 16.2m. The Airity is supplied at 16m. As Steve say’s take out the number 1 section and add the short ext and its bang on 16. Simples!!!!!!

Working in a tackle shop I can have any pole I want, and for me the Airity was what I decided was best….(for me). I will never come on here and slag off other manaufacturers poles and its an individual decision as to what you buy, but taking everything in to consideration I chose the Airity and am well pleased.

[TF_wildinguk]

Andy, hows the airity compared to the 774 you had? I know the finish is better.

[TF_Fred Davis]

and i thought shimano was the b*ll*cks ? now it’s daiwa :rolleyes: :p 😉 well whats new lol out of all of them I thought the 774 and Z9 were very very good not only in performance but price, I can’t wait to get a look at the browning z12 which must be something special, as for the garbo’s yes they are nice poles but I have heard of lots of complaints about the G10 that you get blown round in a side wind and that a lot of mid sections snap. Most of the lads i know who owned them got rid off, however I also no one lad who has the G1000 and raves about it the G800 is also a very good pole and quite a few anglers rate these highly, still at the end of the day you as the consumer has to decide whats right for you, I would really have a good look at any new pole preferably on the bank.

[TF_Mike Pellet man]

I have a Garbolino 995. Most of you rate the G1000 highly. If any of you have had a 995 and moved up market is it worth it ? Are the newer poles that much better or are we all just being told the newest is best ?

[Anonymous]

All tackle tarts All the gear No idea!!!!
😉

[TF_wightangler]

mate put up a trilogy against a Z9 – both very good.
Have to say trilogy wass strenth exceptional and if your a bit heavy handed with poles – then this one will last a few years – which surely should be a major consideration in practical use?

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

Carpmagic, You bought your Daiwa ??? Am I barking up the wrong tree here I thought fully sponsored anglers who represented tackle companies got everything given for free ? Especially an angler of your calibre I would imagine any tackle brand would sign you up ?

[TF_Gavin]

Steve bought the Daiwa before he signed for them! Perhaps he wishes he’d waited now mind 😀

[TF_carpmagicParticipant]

Gavin is right as in i bought my airity before i joined Daiwa, obviously in hindsight i should have waited but at that time i had no idea where i was going and thought it might well take a long time to sort something out. Hence i tried a few different poles and went for the airity.

[TF_billy the squidParticipant]

Surely a pole that blows you sideways off ur box proves it’s the most stiff!

[TF_lump]

@carpmagic wrote:

Gavin is right as in i bought my airity before i joined Daiwa, obviously in hindsight i should have waited but at that time i had no idea where i was going and thought it might well take a long time to sort something out. Hence i tried a few different poles and went for the airity.

i remember steve saying he’d gone for an airity on a well known social website way before his sponsorship went public. 🙂

am i right in think too stiff = SNAP!!! ?

[TF_billy the squidParticipant]

I have to admit, the old g10 does blow you round in a wind!!, luckily mine has never snapped! but then i do give in to the really big gusts and end up fishing someone elses swim for a few seconds!! Is there a pole you can fish long in the wind?? only thing i ever found wrong is the no 3’s on the match kits, they tend to smash to bits every now and again!!

[TF_Slider]

I know its horses for courses with poles but I have been using a G10 for a couple of years now and I have not broken anything, its brilliant in the wind, super stiff, no tip bounce, even when fishing paste @ 16m with a decent sized pot on.

Its equally at home fishing 16m plus for tiny silvers on light laccy.

I regularly use half lengths of 17h and will happily pull fish from reeds and snags with it, never ever been worried that it was going to break, its miles stiffer than a Tourney Pro and I would say a fair bit stronger too.

Poles are like the clothes you wear, they have to suit you.

Right now I would be keen to look at the Browning Z12, although I dont rate the Z9 at all in any department.

The Airity has to be a solid, safe buy though. You know you are getting one of the very best poles around. If you want something thats very strong and manageable long then the Trilogy is good but its got lots of tip bounce and in reality is only really decent up to 14.5 and is not nearly the stiffest pole out there.

[TF_GLEBE1]

@carpmagic wrote:

Gavin is right as in i bought my airity before i joined Daiwa, obviously in hindsight i should have waited but at that time i had no idea where i was going and thought it might well take a long time to sort something out. Hence i tried a few different poles and went for the airity.

For anyone that doubts this,between leaving Shimano and joining Daiwa Steve contacted me to ask if I was happy with my Airtiy and had any problems(we’d drawn next to each other on a few occasions prior) asking all the questions you would ask if you were parting with over 2 grand, actual length,how strong are the match kits,whats it like with the short 4 fitted etc,etc.
Hardly questions from a Daiwa sponsored angler.

[TF_AnthonywatersParticipant]

For anyone that doubts this,between leaving Shimano and joining Daiwa Steve contacted me to ask if I was happy with my Airtiy and had any problems(we’d drawn next to each other on a few occasions prior) asking all the questions you would ask if you were parting with over 2 grand, actual length,how strong are the match kits,whats it like with the short 4 fitted etc,etc.
Hardly questions from a Daiwa sponsored angler.[/quote]

No doubting going on at all fella, just wondered what an angler of Steves calibre would be doing buying a pole I thought he must be greasing the wrong wheel lol

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