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03/11/2010 at 11:35 am #42754
TF_geepsterParticipantI thought the Tackle & Guns show was upbeat and one of the more innovative items out is a new Browning swimfeeder called The Drop (see picture below, courtesy of Angler’s Mail).
It looks like a cage feeder that someone trod on, but is attached in a way that aids casting, and the big bonus is this design rises to surface quickly on winding in.
Browning also has a new Hybrid range in the shops soon – a halfway house between carp and match/pleasure gear for commercials.
I did a show for OnlineFishing.tv at the show which will be on the channel any day now…
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03/11/2010 at 5:11 pm #120647
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantHow does it aid casting exactly ? It looks less aerodynamic than a conventional feeder I agree with the bit ” looks like someones trod on it “!
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03/11/2010 at 7:34 pm #120663
TF_Smedi thought the same thing!
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04/11/2010 at 12:33 am #120713
TF_One Out of the FrameIt has a ‘wing profile’ so, if either side is the same generate lift on the retrieve and not spin but may produce more drag as the ‘front’ is blunter than a conventional feeder.
Casting, baring in mind that the drag from the line and friction from the line going through the rings will probably far outway the aerodynamics of the feeder, is largely immaterial.
Way back in the day when distance casting at Coombe Abbey for bream was the sport, polishing rod rings and your rod gave you about 10% more distance (and I do mean polishing!).
Daiwa Harriers used to come to the top. Skimming method feeders seems en vouge but does the poor quality of the tension of line lay effect accuracy if you are using this method as you seem to get a yard or so without tension followed by a ‘loose’ one?
Getting the distance isn’t a problem but wind drift is imho as you suddenly get a few yards of spare line dragging the feeder in the wrong direction.
This appears to be a thread hike! lol Would appreciate your thoughts however!
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04/11/2010 at 1:28 am #120714
AnonymousThe way it would fly through the air when casting is for sure more aerodynamic than a normal cage feeder and on return it has the shape of a wing which would make you believe it would climb faster.
It seems wider than it is long which makes me feel casting accuracy and distance would be compromised, I would be very surprised if this feeder would cast as far as a feeder that has the lead on the bottom.
If your fishing a 35 yard chuck thats a snag pit then this is the feeder you want.
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04/11/2010 at 10:15 am #120725
TF_Waveney One@One Out of the Frame wrote:
It has a ‘wing profile’ so, if either side is the same generate lift on the retrieve and not spin but may produce more drag as the ‘front’ is blunter than a conventional feeder.
I don’t know one single wing on plane, kite, airship etc that doesn’t have a covering over the frame! Even in the first World War the skeleton wooden wings were covered in canvas and paper.
That cage feeder is about as aerodynamic as I am and would create even less ‘lift’!!
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04/11/2010 at 10:53 am #120729
TF_paul a wmy cage feeders have looked like that for years lol
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04/11/2010 at 11:30 am #120732
yorkiboyIt looks like an Idea from Andy Findley
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04/11/2010 at 12:35 pm #120734
TF_D.W.It would cast better being the other way round with the wire at the thinner end.
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04/11/2010 at 1:03 pm #120735
Anonymous@D.W. wrote:
It would cast better being the other way round with the wire at the thinner end.
Deffo right there but still will be all over the place because of it’s shape, anything that cast’s a long distance has the weight forward i.e. bullet maggot feeders, arsley bombs, this would be like casting an old coffin lead sideways if you remember the coffin leads.
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04/11/2010 at 1:06 pm #120738
TF_Waveney OneI assume that I must have hibernated all winter and awoken on April 1st. Well the weather feels like it anyway!
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04/11/2010 at 1:09 pm #120739
Anonymous@Waveney One wrote:
I assume that I must have hibernated all winter and awoken on April 1st. Well the weather feels like it anyway!
I want to know who the fcuk is getting paid to design this stuff, he needs to be taken out back and thashed with a yank and bank
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04/11/2010 at 1:23 pm #120741
TF_joffmiesterthey do come to the surface quicker similar to one Ivan marks did years back for coombe abbey good in snag pits shallow water and weedy pegs worth trying ~shh funny how the old ideas come around
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04/11/2010 at 2:32 pm #120747
TF_Waveney OneHow do they do that Joff?
Surely there is no wing effect without covering the frame. A Sopwith Camel would be hard pressed to fly looking like that!
A plastic feeder of that shape would plane OK but I bet if you dropped one of those cages into a swimming pool whatever way it went in it would sink straight to the bottom. Maybe I ought to buy one to try it and see but I am sure I would be wasting my money. Maybe they will send me some ~clap ~clap
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04/11/2010 at 6:10 pm #120762
TF_AnthonywatersParticipantLaugh at Yorkiboy it does look like one of Proffessor Findlays contraptions !
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04/11/2010 at 6:36 pm #120768
TF_Waveney OneI suppose that the way it is rigged the lead itself may provide a little lift. If it does though, the shape of the feeder has nothing to do with it.
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04/11/2010 at 7:46 pm #120778
TF_dendraThat would travel like a helicopter on fire.
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04/11/2010 at 8:35 pm #120792
TF_XitanWell this has certainly got a reaction !
Just for info, these feeders were designed in Germany where they are very serious about their feeder fishing. They do much more of it than us, and in some extreme conditions – huge chucks and huge fast deep rivers. They have developed lots of specialist feeder tackle in the same way that we develop specialist gear for commercials. The “King Feederâ€
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04/11/2010 at 9:58 pm #120805
AnonymousXitan wrote:Well this has certainly got a reaction !Just for info, these feeders were designed in Germany where they are very serious about their feeder fishing. They do much more of it than us, and in some extreme conditions – huge chucks and huge fast deep rivers. They have developed lots of specialist feeder tackle in the same way that we develop specialist gear for commercials. The “King Feederâ€
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04/11/2010 at 10:51 pm #120811
TF_orexinaDon’t knock it till you’ve tried it. ~naughty
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04/11/2010 at 10:58 pm #120812
Anonymous@orexina wrote:
Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. ~naughty
I have been trying stuff that don’t look right since the newark needle float, that didnt look right either, and for a while now I go with my gut and say “does it look right” if my gut says no then thats what happens I don’t try it till others have jumped in head first.
That feeder DON’T LOOK RIGHT not tryin it mate ~hand
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05/11/2010 at 7:59 am #120833
TF_squattI’m going to try them but they look odd. Where can I get good quality metal cages with the lead at one end in a circular ring. Before anyone says Kevin Leach I’ve mailed him twice with no joy.
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05/11/2010 at 7:47 pm #120906
TF_ropaLee, the Browning feeders won`t be released until January mate, Might just send you a few samples, see what you reckon!!!! I also been trying to get hold of some decent cage feeders,Tried Kev, no reply, they look identical to the few I have left, that I got of Jan Van Schendel years back. Kev if you are looking in, give me a p.m mate on the details on buying your feeders. Ta
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05/11/2010 at 8:18 pm #120916
TF_squattCheers Martin. By the way was that you in this months Match Fishing. I will pm you my address in case you want to post me some feeders~sick
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05/11/2010 at 8:29 pm #120921
TF_ropaYes mate it was me!
I`ll send you a few samples of the window feeders as well, these are seriously good for long distance casting, lot`s of Loch Ken lads are swithing to them as they are tough as old boots and fly brilliantly. Jimmy Messer won this years easter festival using them. -
05/11/2010 at 8:33 pm #120925
TF_ropaAnd cheers for that Kev, your a star~clap ~clap
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05/11/2010 at 8:42 pm #120926
TF_Kevin LeachReminds me of a certain Mr Scotthorne looking in horror when i told him to stand on it a bit to stop it rolling down a steep ledge. He still wouldnt do it. Even when i said i would make him some more, he said it was a waste of a good feeder.
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06/11/2010 at 2:45 pm #120998
TF_rocketFeederropa, if you can source some, could you bring some window feeders in 50g and some large 60g easy speed feeders along to Derwent next week? Failing that, do you know of any stockists that do them mail order?
cheers,
Mike.P.S Was on Derwent on Tues, bite/fish a chuck, great venue.
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06/11/2010 at 6:25 pm #121033
TF_ropaI`ll have a look and see what I have, and I`ll leave you a few next Sunday!! I left a load of rocketfeeders on the table at Loch Ken, dunno who got them?? I`ll p.m you mate and I`ll sort some feeders out for you. Got that King Feeder 15ft to show you also.
I was up the day before you then, and had 23lb of roach, the place is lifting with them. I fished the nature reserve, thinking about going again on Wednesday once I get the day off work!! -
06/11/2010 at 10:03 pm #121061
TF_rocketFeedercheers ropa. I fished Cronkley Point, parked up in the layby at the white cottage. Walked down through the tree and fished off there. Conditions were horrendous, very strong wind right in my face, 2ft waves, rain, very cold but solid with Roach. Can’t wait to get back on there.
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