ukranian/russian joker

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- 07/01/2011 at 12:24 pm #43892
  TF_wightangler
  Heard this from brackish or salt water.
  Does this means a sprinking of sea salt would be better than rainwater?
  Also, if just leam as separator added- how long will this keep or would be better just neat with atomiser in fridge?
- 07/01/2011 at 1:33 pm #127720
  Anonymous
  a lot of joker imported into the country over the last few years has been from the russian salt beds.just treat it how you would ordinary joker.always worked ok for me.
- 07/01/2011 at 2:10 pm #127723
  TF_red_hydro
  If you are planning to use it within the next couple of days, I would just leave it in the paper and keep it damp
  
  Any longer and I would put it in a bubbler
  
  When I spoke to Russ from North West Worms, he told me not to bother putting any salt in with it
- 07/01/2011 at 2:31 pm #127724
  TF_wightangler
  cheers,
  your reply saves me ringing Russ.
- 07/01/2011 at 3:42 pm #127729
  two shakes
  Russian joker does come from brackish water,its smaller and less lively than Polish/English joker,but is hardier and much easier to take care of.It will keep quite happily in newspaper,if left on a cold garage floor or bottom of bait fridge,with nothing more than an odd squirt from an atomiser.You can also give it a dusting of riddled damp leam which it will be quite happy in.I’ve had it last for over a month if kept like this,and sometimes just left in damp newspaper in the boot of my car lol.However,don’t be tempted to try and keep it like Polish/English joker,i.e in water,it will drown !!
- 07/01/2011 at 5:14 pm #127746
  TF_sumo
  I thought salt from groundbait was supposed to kill Joker ! does that mean russian joker is better for use with groundbait ?
- 07/01/2011 at 7:18 pm #127772
  Bob Nude
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  @sumo wrote:
  
  I thought salt from groundbait was supposed to kill Joker ! does that mean russian joker is better for use with groundbait ?
  
  absolutley….
- 07/01/2011 at 7:21 pm #127773
  Bob Nude
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  @two shakes wrote:
  
  Russian joker does come from brackish water,its smaller and less lively than Polish/English joker,but is hardier and much easier to take care of.It will keep quite happily in newspaper,if left on a cold garage floor or bottom of bait fridge,with nothing more than an odd squirt from an atomiser.You can also give it a dusting of riddled damp leam which it will be quite happy in.I’ve had it last for over a month if kept like this,and sometimes just left in damp newspaper in the boot of my car lol.However,don’t be tempted to try and keep it like Polish/English joker,i.e in water,it will drown !!
  
  A stacking tray system with water trickling thru will not only clean the joker..it can live quite happily for weeks…even grow in size as it has a drink..
- 07/01/2011 at 7:43 pm #127776
  TF_rocketFeeder
  Do you have any matchpacks available for next weekend? If so ill ring and order on Monday. Cheers.
- 07/01/2011 at 9:01 pm #127790
  TF_yorkshire
  what do you guys pay Â£6 up here, which adds up with GB etc
- 07/01/2011 at 9:05 pm #127791
  TF_NathanWatson
  @yorkshire wrote:
  
  what do you guys pay Â£6 up here, which adds up with GB etc
  
  Â£6 for how much?
- 07/01/2011 at 10:33 pm #127795
  gman
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  The Russian Joker is much easier to keep. This time of the year I just add a bit of leam to whatever is left at the end of a match and wrap it back in the newspaper. As stated above you can leave it in the boot and it will be okay the following weekend. Polish/English needs to be tanked. As baits however they act totally differently in the water. Russian hits the bottom and lies dormant. Pol/Eng is active and at any time a number swim up from the bottom an inch or so, making it more attractive to Roach & Perch. The Russian stuff makes a better feed for skimmers and quality fish that prefer to hoover the feed up. The disadvantage with Russian is it’s size when it comes to baiting a hook.
  That said we use it every week in winter on our canal & river circuit and you never know what’s coming till you open a pack at the draw. The last few seasons its been 80% Russian. I think It’s more guaranteed for the dealers to arrive in good nick because it’s so much hardier in transport.
  I certainly wouldn’t consider putting salt on it and I if using groundbait I still tend to mix it in ‘as and when’ and don’t leave it sat through a match. On most of our canal fishing its fed neat or double leamed (which it is fine to leave in all day).
- 07/01/2011 at 11:48 pm #127797
  area39
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  I bought some today but how can you tell wether it’s from Russia or Poland?
  Got a really good match pack for a tenner loads of neat Bloods not in peat and a lively bulk of Joker.
  
  Gonna give it a go tomorrow, there again where I’m going I prob won’t need it as I saw 20-odd lb of fish get caught today by one angler on pellet!!
  
  In the snow at a 99% ice free mixed fishery venue too! 🙂
  
  Jon
- 08/01/2011 at 12:55 am #127798
  gman
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  If you are used to seeing both you can tell straight away by size. Russian is tiny in comparison. If not get a clear jam jar and fill it with water. Drop in a pinch of joker and watch it for a minute. If it lies pretty dormant chances are its Russian. If odd ones keep ‘dancing’ up off the bottom with a twisting motion its probably Polish.
- 08/01/2011 at 11:18 am #127813
  Bob Nude
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  @rocketFeeder wrote:
  
  Do you have any matchpacks available for next weekend? If so ill ring and order on Monday. Cheers.
  
  Yeah Matchpacks available…
  
  Â£11.50 next day delivery… sent thurs..
  
  unless specified ..
  
  cheers
  
  Russ
- 08/01/2011 at 6:19 pm #127827
  area39
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  Just realised opening the newspaper that mine is Russian (Cyrillic text gave it away!! ;))
  
  Yeah it is more docile even when atomised.
  
  Jon
- 08/01/2011 at 7:34 pm #127840
  TF_catch22
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  @Bob Nude wrote:
  
  @rocketFeeder wrote:
  
  Do you have any matchpacks available for next weekend? If so ill ring and order on Monday. Cheers.
  
  Yeah Matchpacks available…
  
  Â£11.50 next day delivery… sent thurs..
  
  unless specified ..
  
  cheers
  
  Russ
  
  What Size are the Match Packs Bob, is it English Joker???
- 08/01/2011 at 8:35 pm #127860
  TF_red_hydro
  @catch22 wrote:
  
  @Bob Nude wrote:
  
  @rocketFeeder wrote:
  
  Do you have any matchpacks available for next weekend? If so ill ring and order on Monday. Cheers.
  
  Yeah Matchpacks available…
  
  Â£11.50 next day delivery… sent thurs..
  
  unless specified ..
  
  cheers
  
  Russ
  
  What Size are the Match Packs Bob, is it English Joker???
  
  Here’s a link to Russ’s website
  
  http://www.northwestworms.co.uk/
  
  It gives you the details on there about the match packs
  
  The last lot I had off him on the 17th of Dec was Russian
- 10/01/2011 at 9:57 am #128010
  TF_NathanWatson
  @area39 wrote:
  
  I bought some today but how can you tell wether it’s from Russia or Poland?
  Got a really good match pack for a tenner loads of neat Bloods not in peat and a lively bulk of Joker.
  
  Gonna give it a go tomorrow, there again where I’m going I prob won’t need it as I saw 20-odd lb of fish get caught today by one angler on pellet!!
  
  In the snow at a 99% ice free mixed fishery venue too! 🙂
  
  Jon
  
  Where’s that then?
- 11/01/2011 at 8:07 pm #128201
  midlander
  Just seen a great film on joker collecting on the Pole Fishing magazine website
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